zow2 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I went to the Bills game a couple years ago vs San Fran and Kaepernick. Bills fans could not have hated any single person more than Kap. He would never be signed here in a million years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: ^^^^This The only source I saw in that article was him watching the video. The length of injury he's referencing just isn't anywhere close to what McDermott said, he didn't even eliminate him from starting Sunday. He was pretty close to the vest on all things QB today, with good reason. There’s a lot going on there. But the team is sending the MRI to Dr James Andrews and anytime you hear that name, not usually great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I was hoping this wasn't the issue but when he was on the sideline holding his upper forearm I got a sick feeling.........he got hit on his upper arm......he was bruised below his tricep.....he shouldn't have been holding that UCL area. Bad news.....if he has a partial tear it could pop at any time and the timing might be such that it destroys two seasons for him in the future. Good news......trusting the process pays off......McBean was prepared.....they just bought a cadaver with about the same sleeve length last week. I'm no doctor but a still warm Carolina-quality UCL should shave a good 3-4 weeks off the recovery time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: ProFootBallDoc said over under is 6 weeks out for Allen. God help us if its bad and needs tommy john surgery or loses his cannon arm Amputation should be considered here. I mean it is the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nostradumbass said: A distraction from WHAT??? grinding ouy 11 points a game? Please, please someone distract me from that Distraction from barber shops. Do you really think Kapernick would do any better? This isn't 2013 and he sucked in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 The only time we have been able to watch real nfl football recently was when Orton played. That’s what Anderson can offer us. I would be thrilled to watch a Bills game and not just sit there thinking, how will we ever score? That’s not normal. Yet every game with this team it feels that way. Anderson is a guy that can actually use the WRs and run a replacement level nfl passing offense. The way every other team in the league already is capable of. This can be a blessing in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He was pretty close to the vest on all things QB today, with good reason. There’s a lot going on there. But the team is sending the MRI to Dr James Andrews and anytime you hear that name, not usually great Is that per a Bills source (McDermott) or how do we know that? I hope they've also performed a musculoskeletal ultrasound I have my own theory about what's going on but I don't see the point in adding to the speculation now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, LFC24 said: looks a lot worse than Mariotas tbh. he was in serious pain on the sideline i think he will be out 4-5 weeks. so much for developing our rookie QB. We all knew this was coming. Beane ignored the oline for 2 years and this is the result. This is the perfect time to develop him. Chance for him to learn from the bench and then come back in late in the season and have a go at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I have my own theory about what's going on but I don't see the point in adding to the speculation now Is your theory promising or bad news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The only time we have been able to watch real nfl football recently was when Orton played. That’s what Anderson can offer us. I would be thrilled to watch a Bills game and not just sit there thinking, how will we ever score? That’s not normal. Yet every game with this team it feels that way. Anderson is a guy that can actually use the WRs and run a replacement level nfl passing offense. The way every other team in the league already is capable of. This can be a blessing in disguise. Totally agree. I yearn for the days of 200 yards passing and a semi competent offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mike in Syracuse said: If he were to go out and throw for 300 yards in his first couple of games no one would care. The circus would be over. Kaepernick was brave enough to tell you how he feels about things. If every NFL player did fans would hate half the league. All that said, there's zero chance the Bills do that. Kaep couldn't put up 300 yards in 2 games. We have enough meh quarterbacks now, we don't need another one who brings a circus with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Is that per a Bills source (McDermott) or how do we know that? I hope they've also performed a musculoskeletal ultrasound I have my own theory about what's going on but I don't see the point in adding to the speculation now Rodak, Schefter et al... not sure of source. Report is the team does not believe it is “serious” but sending mri to Andrews to get his opinion interested in your theory Edited October 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Who's ready for one month of Derek Anderson? I would actually rather watch Peterman........and Nate's presence on the field disgusts me. Anderson's 2-17 for 23 yards stat line in arguably the worst NFL game ever played.......Browns 6 Bills 3........is without doubt the worst full game performance by any QB in the history of the stadium at Orchard Park........and now he is a Bills starting QB........and old with no upside or future.......and probably didn't even really want to play. I haven't even seen it yet and I can't unsee it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Distraction from barber shops. Do you really think Kapernick would do any better? This isn't 2013 and he sucked in 2016. He definitely didn’t but whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Derek Anderson or Peterman? Slap in the face to season ticket holders. Oh wait, we should just be happy we have a team.... It sure is. You’d expect more from a professional franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I would actually rather watch Peterman........and Nate's presence on the field disgusts me. Anderson's 2-17 for 23 yards stat line in arguably the worst NFL game ever played.......Browns 6 Bills 3........is without doubt the worst full game performance by any QB in the history of the stadium at Orchard Park........and now he is a Bills starting QB........and old with no upside or future.......and probably didn't even really want to play. I haven't even seen it yet and I can't unsee it. He brings something to the table that no other unemployed QB (other than Matt Moore) can claim: He used to play for the Carolina Panthers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I’m sorry but give me Peterman all day over Anderson. I want this to finally go up in flames. Give me the #1 overall pick instead of 6-10 with Derek Anderson who’s playing his last season of football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, McBean said: I’m sorry but give me Peterman all day over Anderson. I want this to finally go up in flames. Give me the #1 overall pick instead of 6-10 with Derek Anderson who’s playing his last season of football. Not worth it. The humiliation playing Nathan Peterman for a full season will bring while he sets the NFL record for INT’s isn’t worth a spot or two of draft position. The best players in the upcoming draft play on the DL anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 30 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Is your theory promising or bad news? Bad news I guess? Since Yolo asked also I'll dish. I think Allen was injured against Green Bay during one of his multitude of sacks and hits. I think this is a re-hit to an existing injury, which are often worse. Why I think that: While I believe they genuinely wanted to focus on controlling the LOS and getting the run game going, I think the very low numbers of passes vs Tenn and Hou was because they were trying to play Allen through an injury that left him functional, and had him on a "pitch count". I think a number of other things point towards an Allen injury after GB: -The sudden decision to pursue and sign Anderson (why now, and not before? Allen has needed a vet mentor next to him since before Week 1) -Benjamin's comment about Josh Allen going in earlier than the rest of the team for "his routine" (what takes more time? pain injections maybe?) It's just my theory and might be totally whack though 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Bad news I guess? I think Allen was injured against Green Bay during one of his multitude of sacks and hits. I think this is a re-hit to an existing injury, which are often worse. Why I think that: While I believe they genuinely wanted to focus on controlling the LOS and getting the run game going, I think the very low numbers of passes vs Tenn and Hou was because they were trying to play Allen through an injury that left him functional, and had him on a "pitch count". I think a number of other things point that way: -The sudden decision to sign Anderson (why now, and not before? Allen has needed a vet mentor next to him since before Week 1) -Benjamin's comment about Josh Allen going in earlier than the rest of the team for "his routine" (what takes more time? pain injections maybe?) It's just my theory and might be totally whack though Astute observation. Allen was shaking his right arm in the Green Bay game, if I recall correctly. You could be right on with this. The Bills have done such a remarkably poor job managing the QB situation this year, there should be a "how not to" manual written about it with them as Case 'A'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 But the rookie quarterback will get a second opinion on an injury to the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL), Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports. The team will send an MRI to Dr. James Andrews. Dr. Leslie Bisson, who completed his fellowship under Dr. Andrews, is overseeing Allen’s treatment and therapy. The Bills to do not want to rush Allen’s return, according to Mortensen, and instead want the injury to fully heal. Titans quarterback Marcus Mariota missed two starts with his elbow injury, which was UCL-related, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/15/josh-allen-seeking-second-opinion-on-his-injured-elbow/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 This UCL injury is going to be good for Josh in the long run. It couldn't have come at a better time for him. Hope he takes advantage of the time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/15/josh-allen-seeking-second-opinion-on-his-injured-elbow/ This at the end of the day ladies and gents, is why NP is going nowhere. The Bills simply have no additional bodies to start at QB. At a minimum he will be backing up DA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/15/josh-allen-seeking-second-opinion-on-his-injured-elbow/ Well........if it's a partial tear it really won't ever heal.......and if you are Allen's agent you probably want him to get the surgery out of the way in those "team beneficial only" years. Last thing you want is to nurse it for a couple years and have it pop during year 3 and miss a season and a half and enter free agency in year 5 as a recovering gimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just put Allen in next weeks game throwing southpaw, he'd still be able to throw it better than Peterman or Anderson. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: This at the end of the day ladies and gents, is why NP is going nowhere. The Bills simply have no additional bodies to start at QB. At a minimum he will be backing up DA. I wouldn’t be surprised if they sign landry Jones and cut Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 For context, here is the mariota injury (ulner nerve) http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-marcus-mariota-0916-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wouldn’t be surprised if they sign landry Jones and cut Peterman The guy was serviceable at least for a number of years in Pittsburgh, so I wouldn’t hate them taking a flyer and see what he’s got to offer. A career 86.2 passer rating, so there’s that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: The guy was serviceable at least for a number of years in Pittsburgh, so I wouldn’t hate them taking a flyer and see what he’s got to offer. A career 86.2 passer rating, so there’s that They had him in for a workout recently and I don’t consider him a “vet mentor” so I don’t think it was either him or DA. I think he could be brought in while Allen is on the shelf, but not until DA is up to speed. As bad as Peterman is, you can’t roll with two brand new QBs to the offense, protections, WRs, etc. I could see it happening next week. Edited October 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They had him in for a workout recently and I don’t consider him a “vet mentor” so I don’t think it was either him or DA. I think he could be brought in while Allen is on the shelf, but not until DA is up to speed. As bad as Peterman is, you can’t roll with two brand new QBs to the offense, protections, WRs, etc. I could see it happening next week. Agreed, and I can’t imagine DA will take much longer to at least know the basics, especially given he was in a Daboll system in 2009, although of course the verbiage will be completely different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Agreed, and I can’t imagine DA will take much longer to at least know the basics, especially given he was in a Daboll system in 2009, although of course the verbiage will be completely different With the predictability and simple garbage this offense is I'm sure Anderson has it down already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Doubt it. Why would they start Anderson ? Makes zero sense. Let Allen learn the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 9 hours ago, ScottLaw said: McBeane are two morons. How they left the QB position like this is a fireable offense to both of them. I like a lot of their "process" in tilling the roster for future fertility, and often dislike your hardline takes, but...it's difficult to argue the QB point you make here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Not worth it. The humiliation playing Nathan Peterman for a full season will bring while he sets the NFL record for INT’s isn’t worth a spot or two of draft position. The best players in the upcoming draft play on the DL anyway. If Peterman tries to set an NFL interception record McDermott will lose the locker room all the way. I'm sure there's already a few raised eyebrows and wtf's swirling as it is in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 This is just unbelievable. It was only a matter of time with their negligent approach to protecting him. Unreal. Every time the Bills try to do something that flies in the face of conventional football wisdom, it blows up in their faces. EVERY SINGLE TIME. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: For context, here is the mariota injury (ulner nerve) http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-marcus-mariota-0916-story.html Good lord. That doesn’t sound promising. The article basically states that if Allen wasn’t feeling better in a few hours than the elbow might never be the same. Please god no. This kid has all the makings of being great. Nothing like this is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: This is just unbelievable. It was only a matter of time with their negligent approach to protecting him. Unreal. Every time the Bills try to do something that flies in the face of conventional football wisdom, it blows up in their faces. EVERY SINGLE TIME. Dude, it's football. Injuries happen. Take a breath. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Dropping Peterpick and signing Matt Moore seems like one of the better moves we could make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, H2o said: Dropping Peterpick and signing Matt Moore seems like one of the better moves we could make. Matt Moore does not want to play anymore https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/25/ex-dolphins-backup-qb-matt-moore-reportedly-turns-down-workout-opportunities/ Edited October 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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