billsfan1959 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Only the greatest Wide Receiver to ever suit up in a Buffalo Bills uniform. Other than Andre Reed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Since Bell is currently holding out McCoy has the second highest cap hit for Running backs in the NFL ($8.95 million). Next season that number is $9.05 million. Like him or not at 30 I don't think he is worth what cap hit. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/lesean-mccoy-5916/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2018/07/12/2018-nfl-salaries-leveon-bell-and-the-top-salary-cap-hits-for-running-backs/#3de9e9c23fd3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Depends on what they are willing to give up. If they are desperate and throw a 2nd out, you have to seriously consider that. Shady is obviously not in the long term plans here. On the other hand we had nothing offensively last week besides him and that has been the case basically his whole time here. If we werent playing allen right now it would probably be a no brainer to pull the trigger. I could see beane wanting to do it but mcdermott not agreeing Edited October 9, 2018 by BillsSbSoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, QCity said: Lol a 2nd and 3rd rd pick would be insane. That means we are putting a value on him versus just saying we're closed for business. This is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Dude, Goedert was the 49th overall pick in the last draft. I know, but they also have Ertz. Crap, I meant to edit my post and mistakenly deleted it...Glad you at least replied to save it ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 In which game did our offense look the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I heard Jordan Matthews is available 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Logic said: I like that the Bills are asking for too much. They don't NEED to trade McCoy. It's Philly that wants him. If they want him bad enough, they'll overpay. If not, then no trade, and the Bills keep their best offensive player (who hasn't yet lost a step, by the way). Win-Win for Buffalo. You keep writing exactly what I'm about to write! It's a time-saver. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, HansLanda said: Not to mention the optics that would bring with it when they are ready to spend on free agents in the offseason. Agent: "Bills want to sign you." Player: "So I'll get paid, but they may just trade me in a year or two and I'll have to move my family again? Pass." Any FA knows that business comes before loyalty--on both sides of the street. Trading Shady wouldn't affect future signing decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The eagles would be much better off signing gillislee or Jamaal Charles and trading for Deone Buchanan or Hassan reddick. Their problems are on D. They are lucky they aren't 0-5 because of that defense. They should be looking for safety or cornerback help because they have some pretty good QBS coming up (Newton, Brees, Goff, Alex Smith and Manning twice) that will cut that secondary off at the knees. Edited October 9, 2018 by dpberr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, HansLanda said: That means we are putting a value on him versus just saying we're closed for business. This is interesting. I think that the Bills are fools for putting any price on McCoy. At the very least see if the Eagles throw out a wild offer before speaking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 The guy has been all heart since he’s been here. Hate how a leak like this, if true will irk him. Id take Wentz for Shady- and they can keep their Super Bowl mvp??? ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: please dont do it. the offense is already unwatchable as it is. We were fine without him against MIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Other than Andre Reed... In all honesty I think Moulds was the most talented of all, but that's a whole different topic and I don't want to derail this thread. FYI, I was being sarcastic about Josh Reed. He made some nice 3rd down catches in his day, but he's no where near the greatest nor the worst. As far as McCoy goes...If I was the Bills I would only do a player for player exchange unless they can somehow net a 2nd round pick (which they won't get for a 30 yr old RB unless they're truly that desperate) As many others have stated McCoy and Allen have a good relationship and you're taking away one of his few offensive threats and safety valves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) let him go back to a contender to finish out his career. a 2nd or 3rd round pick could be a OL in the upcoming draft? would be nice if it was player for player and pick up a wide out or OL? Edited October 9, 2018 by no name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I personally think they'll be fine with clement and smallwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 52 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: But er was deceased. Wherever John may be, he still has more brain function than liverpoolkey, though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: In all honesty I think Moulds was the most talented of all, but that's a whole different topic and I don't want to derail this thread. FYI, I was being sarcastic about Josh Reed. He made some nice 3rd down catches in his day, but he's no where near the greatest nor the worst. As far as McCoy goes...If I was the Bills I would only do a player for player exchange unless they can somehow net a 2nd round pick (which they won't get for a 30 yr old RB unless they're truly that desperate) As many others have stated McCoy and Allen have a good relationship and you're taking away one of his few offensive threats and safety valves. It's all good, brother - my bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I didn’t say they would give up a 2nd. That’s what it would take imo. Bills already have 10 draft picks and Mccoy is serving a big role to their rookie QB. He’s taking him under his wing and he’s a captain. I don’t see Beane salivating at a mid round pick. Maybe kick back a pick or two. Take their 2nd and send back a 4th and 6th or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, dneveu said: I personally think they'll be fine with clement and smallwood. I love CC, he has been banged up the past few weeks though. They would be smart to sign Darkwa, he can take the pounding that the other guys can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: In all honesty I think Moulds was the most talented of all, but that's a whole different topic and I don't want to derail this thread. FYI, I was being sarcastic about Josh Reed. He made some nice 3rd down catches in his day, but he's no where near the greatest nor the worst. As far as McCoy goes...If I was the Bills I would only do a player for player exchange unless they can somehow net a 2nd round pick (which they won't get for a 30 yr old RB unless they're truly that desperate) As many others have stated McCoy and Allen have a good relationship and you're taking away one of his few offensive threats and safety valves. The Eagles are not trading anybody that is on par with McCoy. If the rumor is true I still wish Beane had waited to open with a bid to see if a sub-package could have been done with perhaps one of our defensive depth guys for WR Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Eagles are desperate. I want a 2nd. I think a 3rd might be fair, but I am not sure a 3rd is worth it to get rid of our best offensive player. If we had more talent, I would do it for a 3rd, but since we don't, I am not sure I would. So, since they are desperate for a good RB, I ask for a 2 and I send them Shady and a 5th or 6th rounder to get that 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: https://twitter.com/AnthonyLGargano/status/1049710685347823616 Anthony Gargano @AnthonyLGargano FollowFollow @AnthonyLGargano More Bills asking for a 2nd and 3rd round pick in exchange for LeSean McCoy Eagles know this game well. 2 1sts for Foles worked ??? Edited October 9, 2018 by gobills1212 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, liverpoolkev said: I see you have me confused with your kids .....MCD caused the limited talent by shipping the playmakers out and their inability to judge talent ( Tolbert, KB, Ducasse, ZAY, and his love for washed up Carolina players. Just because you like to keep your head in the sand that's up to you Dude, McDermott got the Bills into the playoffs. What more do you want from him? And he did it with Tyrod Taylor as a QB. He could very well do it this year again if teams keep beating each other up. The defense is looking ferocious and that's the unit he decided to focus on first, he's a defensive minded coach. Give him a draft or 2, okay? Sheesh. Everyone keeps hating on a guy that broke an 18 year curse. I can't stand people like you. Edited October 9, 2018 by ChronicAndKnuckles 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: In all honesty I think Moulds was the most talented of all, but that's a whole different topic and I don't want to derail this thread. FYI, I was being sarcastic about Josh Reed. He made some nice 3rd down catches in his day, but he's no where near the greatest nor the worst. As far as McCoy goes...If I was the Bills I would only do a player for player exchange unless they can somehow net a 2nd round pick (which they won't get for a 30 yr old RB unless they're truly that desperate) As many others have stated McCoy and Allen have a good relationship and you're taking away one of his few offensive threats and safety valves. Moulds might be in the HOF if he'd have had stability at the QB position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chemical said: We were fine without him against MIN Min was an anomaly. I don’t see the Titans game as a win without him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Someone said they were already offering us a 2nd, apparently we want a 3rd too=P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Beane, “Traded the van for it straight up.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: I love CC, he has been banged up the past few weeks though. They would be smart to sign Darkwa, he can take the pounding that the other guys can’t. Is sproles healthy? I mean... what are we talking like maybe 15 touches amongst 3 guys? I wouldn't trade a 2nd or 3rd unless i was SURE this was the piece to get me to the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) A lot of talk about culture in the locker room and trading shady would teach the team that winning doesn't matter. I see the point. . .sort of - but: The 2019 bills offense will be almost all new players. I think everyone in that locker room knows that. Very few offensive side players are safe from replacment when the masses of draft picks and FA and trades get signed. So what is the difference? They know they are playing an uphill battle for their jobs this year and not for AFC rings. That's got to be the culture there now. Defense should see that they are not playing for rings this season as well and appreciate that mgmt is doing all they can for the near future. How could the defense be happy with the offense right now? I like shady and my son loves him and has his jersey. But I'm still bought into McD and the "process". Do it. Edited October 9, 2018 by sleeby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 No way we get a 2nd and a 3rd for him. I would take a 3rd and a starter on their OL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 DO EEET 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 To consider... Despite early season issues, Eagles are very likely to win NFC East and into playoffs. So... any pick we might get will very likely be a bottom of the round pick. Big difference picking 1st in round 2 vs last in round 2 (for instance). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, dneveu said: Is sproles healthy? I mean... what are we talking like maybe 15 touches amongst 3 guys? I wouldn't trade a 2nd or 3rd unless i was SURE this was the piece to get me to the super bowl. Sproles has also been banged up for the majority of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said: No way we get a 2nd and a 3rd for him. I would take a 3rd and a starter on their OL This would prob have to be over two years from Philly's POV - 3rd in 2019 draft; 2nd in 2020 (or vice versa). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: DO EEET Russian Colonel from the second Rambo movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Would prefer to keep McCoy because we are competitive but a 2nd and 3rd isn't bad. As I said before, let the next two games play out. We could be 4-3 with two winnable matchups. We already have a ton of cap space and 10 picks next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, HansLanda said: This would prob have to be over two years from Philly's POV - 3rd in 2019 draft; 2nd in 2020 (or vice versa). They reportedly have 2 seconds in 2019 so if true I would want both picks to be 2019 picks if I were Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Moulds might be in the HOF if he'd have had stability at the QB position. Terrell Owens build, hands of glue, could run the full route tree. We gave him Flutie, Holcomb, Jp Losman & company. What a waste. Edited October 9, 2018 by ChronicAndKnuckles 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: They reportedly have 2 seconds in 2019 so if true I would want both picks to be 2019 picks if I were Beane. This is true - they have theirs and the Ravens second rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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