Kelly the Dog Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Lurker said: Frank Reich... And AVP. Kelly constantly said what great sounding boards both of them were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Cut him and move on. He's not NFL caliber. Yep. Who even cares at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Ok Point to me anytime in thr last lets say 20 years anyone associated with the Bills handled a QB properly. hey, it could of been you. but, here you are on a message board. enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 The Buffalo Bills are prepared to bring in veteran quarterback Derek Anderson within the next 24 hours to provide rookie Josh Allen with an experienced mentor, league sources told ESPN. After Peterman flopped in his Week 1 start against the Ravens, the Bills have been among a handful of teams evaluating other quarterbacks to provide more experience at the position. One of those quarterbacks is former Steelers backup Landry Jones, but experience and familiarity with McDermott and Beane tilted in Anderson's favor, sources said. No deal has been finalized, and the Bills will have to make at least one roster move Monday to accommodate Anderson. The Bills also may have to assess their roster needs if more injuries surface from Sunday's game against the Titans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Bills playing a traditional game of 'shutting the stable door, after the horse has bolted'. As others have pointed out, this should have happened once they traded McCarron. Tbh, I've never been a fan of Anderson, although he had a decent year or two early(ish) in his career. Having said that, it's obvious something had to be done, or we would be seeing Peterman when Allen, rather inevitably, gets injured behind our O-Line. As to the mentoring thing, I feel there's real value in it, as much because we don't have anyone on the staff, iirc, who actually has played the position in the NFL. There is probably no more nuanced position in sports than NFL QB, and it's often little things that make the difference. Having someone who is able to show some of the subtleties of the position, to your rookie, could pay big dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, McBean said: Good move. Finally get Allen a mentor. I just can’t believe it took this long. It's possible that they wanted to bring him in earlier, but Anderson may have not wanted to sign right away, to see what other options might develop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Allen and Anderson going forward for the next 2 or 3 years hopefully. I like the vet guy. Once they have been around and seen it, the game slows down. If Anderson had to play, he would probably be operating a functional NFL passing offense. It would be like Orton. I really like this a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Honest question, has a "mentor" qb ever really worked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, billieve420 said: Just heard on NFL countdown per Mort. Expected to sign Monday. https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1048958479724101632?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) I didn’t want Allen to be playing yet because he really isn’t ready and the talent around him is very weak, but signing a vet now to play is way too late. I understand most of their moves so far, but they really seem intent on destroying Allen before he has even had a chance. He took 3rd team reps most of training camp, they have no OL, they have no WRs, they forced him into the lineup because they had zero viable experienced options on the roster, now they may bench him? I try try not to be harsh on the front office and coaches because I understand they are trying to rebuild and they had cap problems to deal with, but this looks like they completely failed to have any plan in place at QB to allow Allen, whom they spent a lot to acquire, develop properly. If they have to yank Allen for any reason, I think the wheels are coming off and there could be a new GM and coach again next year - and another search for a QB. Edited October 7, 2018 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 The Carolina Connection wins the day of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: So No next week Allen Looks like Tom Brady right because we know a Mentor is vital to QB development. Lol Farve never showed Rodgers how to do anything and Rodgers turned out just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, jkeerie said: It's possible that they wanted to bring him in earlier, but Anderson may have not wanted to sign right away, to see what other options might develop. I thought that too, it’s probably a situation like Kyle Orton where they may have been working on it a long time but he was hesitant to sign 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, McBean said: I don’t want Derek Anderson starting any games though. Mentor and coaching Allen...fine. Playing? Heck no What are you going to do if the kid gets his bell rung in a game and can't continue that week... wave a white flag? 3 minutes ago, Steptide said: Honest question, has a "mentor" qb ever really worked? I don't see how we, as fans, could possibly know the answer to that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Our rate of success at the QB position is so messed up. At this point the opposite things the Bills do are the right one. That would mean AJ McCarron will be a solid / good starter next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: 2-2 in his last 8 seasons. Sweet. And who knew the NFL was always loaded with these selfless "mentors" at QB, doing such great career building for the young guys coming in. BTW< Newton was a rookie Pro Bowler before his "mentor" arrived in Carolina... Winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I was hoping for Landry Jones but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 He knows OBD well.....played in the greatest game ever played.....6-3 Browns win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 If I'm Anderson I would put it in my contract that I'm only here to mentor your young QB. If said QB is injured I don't have to ruin my career with your O-Line and WR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Farve never showed Rodgers how to do anything and Rodgers turned out just fine. Even if Farve ignored Rodgers completely for all those years...........Rodgers had the opportunity to observe everything he was doing.............for years. No one can convince me that having that experience did Rodgers no good whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Solid move. Peterman to PS. Yep, no worry's about him getting poached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven&nine Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I'll always remember when DA went 2 for 17 and like 20 yards for the Browns against the Bills... and he still won. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: It's going to take a little bit of time for Anderson to know the playbook. At least two weeks to familiarize himself with enough of it. So Peterman is likely safe for the short term. But I don't see this as a move to push Allen to the bench. There is nothing to gain by having Andreson play. I see this more as a move to improve the backup situation if Allen gets hurt and to give Allen a veteran voice to lean on. He's been given the week by getting signed on Monday, he has experience in this system. I'll be surprised if Peterman is on the team in any way shape or form. So no one else is worried about JA getting hurt because he can't get rid of the ball quickly? I was concerned about 4 different joints getting broken on that one sack/fumble against the vikes, the one our TE recovered. People at his feet, taking swats at his arm. For that reason alone I'm okay with Anderson starting, because I am on the side of Allen not being ready yet. Doesn't mean JA wouldn't get some time on the field, just not the lion's share. He's getting very little out of having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Mr. Anderson. We’ve been expecting you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: IF Anderson ever sees the field and Allen is not hurt than the Process is dead and this coaching staff needs to be canned Agrees! Fully. Otherwise, decent move. 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Daboll's genius playcalling or Anderson's limitations? Anyway, it's OUCH 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Then they should have Hired him as a coach. Palmer has his own successful business. Guys like that don't want to flush it all to work with one team and have to rebuild their client base all over after the team changes staff. Their pay by a team is not that great TOO btw. I know a super successful therapist and he mentioned that me. I talked to some of his peers, same thing. Just look at therapists, doctors, trainers, strength coaches that many players get on their own, in all team sports. But I'm sure Palmer could be hired for a few week stint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Who cares about optics Maybe a coach and GM who already have been criticized for how they handeled the QB position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, youngjebrey said: I actually love that. Need an actual veteran to mentor Josh Allen. Doesn't the mentor have to be good though to be considered a mentor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: He's been given the week by getting signed on Monday, he has experience in this system. I'll be surprised if Peterman is on the team in any way shape or form. So no one else is worried about JA getting hurt because he can't get rid of the ball quickly? I was concerned about 4 different joints getting broken on that one sack/fumble against the vikes, the one our TE recovered. People at his feet, taking swats at his arm. For that reason alone I'm okay with Anderson starting, because I am on the side of Allen not being ready yet. Doesn't mean JA wouldn't get some time on the field, just not the lion's share. He's getting very little out of having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. I would venture to say that Daboll drilled that into JA all week. We all will see IF JA can learn in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steptide said: Honest question, has a "mentor" qb ever really worked? I've never believed it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steptide said: Honest question, has a "mentor" qb ever really worked? Yes many young QB’s have benefitted from having a veteran QB in the room. Its not a guarantee by any means, but I don’t think it hurts at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Agrees! Fully. Otherwise, decent move. Daboll's genius playcalling or Anderson's limitations? Anyway, it's OUCH Palmer has his own successful business. Guys like that don't want to flush it all to work with one team and have to rebuild their client base all over after the team changes staff. Their pay by a team is not that great TOO btw. I know a super successful therapist and he mentioned that me. I talked to some of his peers, same thing. Just look at therapists, doctors, trainers, strength coaches that many players get on their own, in all team sports. But I'm sure Palmer could be hired for a few week stint... I'd almost rather see Peterman again over Anderson... Almost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Just now, 4BillsintheBurgh said: He's been given the week by getting signed on Monday, he has experience in this system. I'll be surprised if Peterman is on the team in any way shape or form. So no one else is worried about JA getting hurt because he can't get rid of the ball quickly? I was concerned about 4 different joints getting broken on that one sack/fumble against the vikes, the one our TE recovered. People at his feet, taking swats at his arm. For that reason alone I'm okay with Anderson starting, because I am on the side of Allen not being ready yet. Doesn't mean JA wouldn't get some time on the field, just not the lion's share. He's getting very little out of having 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. I think Allen getting experience is worth the risk and I don't see any upside to starting Anderson other than not putting Allen out there. Don't get me wrong I can see the argument for having an option to pull Allen if he just looks like he is going to get himself hurt out there. But I think you have to give Allen a few more games to see progression in his ability to get the ball out quicker. As far as Peterman I think he sticks around for next weeks game if not two more games. QB's take a lot longer to learn a playbook and get acclimated. It doesn't hurt to have one extra week of having a QB that is fully entrenched into the offense on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Just now, nucci said: I've never believed it... So if you were an apprentice in a highly skilled job you would NOT want to be able to get advice and pointers from someone who has done the job before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: I'd almost rather see Peterman again over Anderson... Almost Call 911 immediately! You sir are not well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, FrankReichComeback#14 said: Yes many young QB’s have benefitted from having a veteran QB in the room. Its not a guarantee by any means, but I don’t think it hurts at all. Carson Palmer said Jon Kitna helped him out a lot, Mahomes said that Alex Smith really helped him out last season. So there have been cases of it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Who in the hell is Viscious Sid. Yolo your sources leave a lot to be desired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Didn't Derek Anderson say Allen sucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, youngjebrey said: I actually love that. Need an actual veteran to mentor Josh Allen. It makes just tons of sense. But I don't understand why they didn't do this last spring, or at latest after the Ravens game when it was clear even to McDermott and Daboll that they couldn't start Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) The term "mentor" quarterback to me is a misnomer. Call them a "confidant", or "sounding board" QB instead. Kelly always appreciated Reich for serving in that manner. Marino said the same thing about Don Strock- Farve praised Jim McMahon for this as well. I think a veteran who knows and understands his role (Anderson) is much more viable in this sense than the shell-shocked Peterman. Edited October 7, 2018 by RussellDopeland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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