Pete Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Would you trade our team for the Browns? In a NY second. The Browns have talent all over the field. Where is ours? I cant think of a bigger **** show than Buffalo. The Giants are a mess. Other than that, I can't think of a bigger mess than us. Tampa, Jets, Bears- they all got better. Why can't we? We deserve much better. Seriously, is there a team that is garbage, worse than ours? Are we the least talented team in the NFL? How does that happen with high draft picks for 20 years, and free agency and salary caps? It is maddening! Edited September 18, 2018 by Pete 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Nah I support GM Beane and Coach McDermott...give them some time. They deserve patience 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I'd keep ours... Why? Because for good or bad that's the Bills... You know.. Our team. I wouldn't mind stealing some players though. Plus we didn't didn't get shut out like AZ either. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 How about Arizona? Maybe San Fran, Tennessee, all those teams look pretty ugly. But hey we’re the worst of course, cause that’s just the cool thing to jump on this week. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) The Browns suck. They are doomed until they get a new HC. Historically bad coach. Bills do have maybe the 2 worst Coordinators... Edited September 18, 2018 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Arizona looking pretty bad. The Bill's arent good this year..that's the slow and skinny of it. Nothing we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Browns - 4 top ten picks in last 4 years. Jags - 4 top ten picks in last 5 years Rams - 5 top ten picks in last 6 years Jets - 3 top ten picks in last 5 years Though these are estimates, you see the point. Teams that struggle get rewarded with high draft picks. The Bills have always competed at the 7-9 and 8-8 level. We need a chance to draft top 5. Be patient. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Lets see Arizona Giants Oakland and - The return is Chuckie there are currently 10 teams with 0 wins. 9 once Seattle or Chicago finish with a win. Yeah yeah 2 have ties Edited September 18, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Probably Arizona. Not a Steve Wilks fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Browns - 4 top ten picks in last 4 years. Jags - 4 top ten picks in last 5 years Rams - 5 top ten picks in last 6 years Jets - 3 top ten picks in last 5 years Though these are estimates, you see the point. Teams that struggle get rewarded with high draft picks. The Bills have always competed at the 7-9 and 8-8 level. We need a chance to draft top 5. Be patient. Browns have had a thousand 1st round picks for years......rewarded with sadness every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Anyone with a functional brain would say the Browns. Garrett is a stud at DE, Jarvis Landry is better than any of our receivers. Their runningbacks are Hyde, Chubb on a rookie contract. Ward in the secondary. Rookie QBs they got the no.1. Njoku at TE. They got some nice pieces going forward.. Hopefully we can get there but with better results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, Pete said: Would you trade our team for the Browns? In a NY second. The Browns have talent all over the field. Where is ours? I cant think of a bigger **** show than Buffalo. The Giants are a mess. Other than that, I can't think of a bigger mess than us. Tampa, Jets, Bears- they all got better. Why can't we? We deserve much better. Seriously, is there a team that is garbage, worse than ours? Are we the least talented team in the NFL? How does that happen with high draft picks for 20 years, and free agency and salary caps? It is maddening! I like... (1) The foundation of Allen, Zay, Dawkins, Star, Harrison P, TMurphy, Shaq, Yarbrough, Edmunds, Milano, Tre, Hyde, and Poyer. (2) Lots of draft picks in 2019 - including possibly the #1 pick (fingers crossed!) (3) A shite-ton of cap space in 2019 Bills are in better shape than many. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 If Allen turns out to be the guy we’re fine. Next year where out of cap hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I felt pretty good about the guys we had in charge after last year and I’m really starting to question it. I have to see how the defense looks this week. Not firing Fraiser was a mistake and if this defense still sucks Sunday, I might just be out here with McDermott. What happened the first 2 weeks on defense is inexcusable. If they want to keep Fraiser around, then McDermott better find away to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Maybe Seattle is worst off than the Bills. Are they better? Sure... but they'll win some games and miss the playoffs. Actually kind of remind me of those 7-9 Bills teams. Good enough to win games against bad opponents but never good enough to beat any good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: If Allen turns out to be the guy we’re fine. Next year where out of cap hell. This! We’re not close to a playoff team this year. Best we can hope for is that our young guys show huge potential (mainly Allen and Edmunds), while we get close in many games, but lose enough to get the top pick. Then... we need some college QB to be a unanimous #1 pick.. and we trade that pick for some other team’s farm. Profit! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 We are getting at top 3 pick in next years draft almost certain. The draft is something to look forward to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: Anyone with a functional brain would say the Browns. Garrett is a stud at DE, Jarvis Landry is better than any of our receivers. Their runningbacks are Hyde, Chubb on a rookie contract. Ward in the secondary. Rookie QBs they got the no.1. Njoku at TE. They got some nice pieces going forward.. Hopefully we can get there but with better results. Four of those pieces were taken in the first round...top ten. That’s the point. Give the Bills a chance. It’s been one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Browns - 4 top ten picks in last 4 years. Jags - 4 top ten picks in last 5 years Rams - 5 top ten picks in last 6 years Jets - 3 top ten picks in last 5 years Though these are estimates, you see the point. Teams that struggle get rewarded with high draft picks. The Bills have always competed at the 7-9 and 8-8 level. We need a chance to draft top 5. Be patient. May I remind you that the Bills have drafted in the top four twice since 2012 (both times in historically great draft years) and came away with two turds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 If I had to move to Cleveland, I would take a pass. I like Allen better than Mayfield. But it is a no brainer to swap defenses even up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, mannc said: May I remind you that the Bills have drafted in the top four twice since 2012 (both times in historically great draft years) and came away with two turds? May I remind you that was a different front office? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Four of those pieces were taken in the first round...top ten. That’s the point. Give the Bills a chance. It’s been one year. So what Im getting from you and Mr. Weo is that we need some years of futility to be good. Like 4 years in the top 10 in the draft. Is that the process? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, mannc said: May I remind you that the Bills have drafted in the top four twice since 2012 (both times in historically great draft years) and came away with two turds? But those were different turd pickers than the current pickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Giants are worse. It's stunning they didn't draft a QB this year. What a colossal mistake that was. AZ is pretty bad too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, Pete said: Would you trade our team for the Browns? In a NY second. The Browns have talent all over the field. Where is ours? I cant think of a bigger **** show than Buffalo. The Giants are a mess. Other than that, I can't think of a bigger mess than us. Tampa, Jets, Bears- they all got better. Why can't we? We deserve much better. Seriously, is there a team that is garbage, worse than ours? Are we the least talented team in the NFL? How does that happen with high draft picks for 20 years, and free agency and salary caps? It is maddening! No thanks. Browns would get the best player on either team - Josh Allen. I'll pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: So what Im getting from you and Mr. Weo is that we need some years of futility to be good. Like 4 years in the top 10 in the draft. Is that the process? It’s the Circle of Life (cue the Lion King music). Get your QB, young MLB and then start filling holes....many holes. But yes, two years of solid drafts and we’re in bidness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Giants are worse. It's stunning they didn't draft a QB this year. What a colossal mistake that was. AZ is pretty bad too Eli has been toast for a few years. Always thought he was flukey 2 time SB winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I like... (1) The foundation of Allen, Zay, Dawkins, Star, Harrison P, TMurphy, Shaq, Yarbrough, Edmunds, Milano, Tre, Hyde, and Poyer. (2) Lots of draft picks in 2019 - including possibly the #1 pick (fingers crossed!) (3) A shite-ton of cap space in 2019 Bills are in better shape than many. True. Some live paycheck to paycheck. Bills have their QB. We're on our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: But those were different turd pickers than the current pickers. I know. I was just wallowing in the misery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: If Allen turns out to be the guy we’re fine. Next year where out of cap hell. Agree 100%, it's all about Josh at this point. If he's the guy, all else can be fixed. If not...the search continues, interminably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Honestly i don’t think it’s even close. Bills worst team by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: How about Arizona? Maybe San Fran, Tennessee, all those teams look pretty ugly. But hey we’re the worst of course, cause that’s just the cool thing to jump on this week. SAN Fran? How are they looking ugly? They got a great offensive mind for their head coach, and a very promising young QB. They barely lost to Minnesota in Minnesota and won yesterday 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: SAN Fran? How are they looking ugly? They got a great offensive mind for their head coach, and a very promising young QB. They barely lost to Minnesota in Minnesota and won yesterday From a roster standpoint they are just as bad as buffalo. Dont we have a very young promising quarterback? San Fran has as many holes as the bills, you could possibly argue our roster on paper looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: From a roster standpoint they are just as bad as buffalo. Dont we have a very young promising quarterback? San Fran has as many holes as the bills, you could possibly argue our roster on paper looks better. No, no you can't make that arguement. Not sanely anyway. 18 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: No thanks. Browns would get the best player on either team - Josh Allen. I'll pass. A QB with 1 start and a 61 rating is the best player on either team? Are you kidding? He has the potential to be great but isn't anywhere close yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Browns - 4 top ten picks in last 4 years. Jags - 4 top ten picks in last 5 years Rams - 5 top ten picks in last 6 years Jets - 3 top ten picks in last 5 years Though these are estimates, you see the point. Teams that struggle get rewarded with high draft picks. The Bills have always competed at the 7-9 and 8-8 level. We need a chance to draft top 5. Be patient. We have a lot of picks next year, and bunch of cap space, and, most importantly, we hopefully have our QB of the future. IF Allen is the guy, I’m feeling pretty good about this. The FO came in with a plan, and I’m willing to look down the road a bit to see if it works out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, cle23 said: No, no you can't make that arguement. Not sanely anyway. A QB with 1 start and a 61 rating is the best player on either team? Are you kidding? He has the potential to be great but isn't anywhere close yet. Like I said. Best player on either team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I can think of a few: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_National_Football_League_franchises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Like I said. Best player on either team. Have fun with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, cle23 said: Have fun with that! Go to bed, pisspot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 47 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Browns - 4 top ten picks in last 4 years. Jags - 4 top ten picks in last 5 years Rams - 5 top ten picks in last 6 years Jets - 3 top ten picks in last 5 years Though these are estimates, you see the point. Teams that struggle get rewarded with high draft picks. The Bills have always competed at the 7-9 and 8-8 level. We need a chance to draft top 5. Be patient. When you think about it, it really is quite remarkable (or somewhat unlucky) that the Bills never really bottomed out aside from 4-12 in 2010. The rest of the years were around 6-9 wins. Unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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