row_33 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Strethor said: Browns have more talent then most of the league in all honestly but one of the objectively worst coaches in the league A good coach and weak-ish division matters more I think we will win more and place higher in our division than the browns would comparatively "more talent than most of the league" are people having an acid flashback, more so than normal for pre-regular season football... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: "more talent than most of the league" are people having an acid flashback, more so than normal for pre-regular season football... All you have to do is look at their offense Top 3 WR + Jarvis Laundry Njoku, Hyde, potentially Dez, and a great receiving back Tyrod will not take full advantage of this but still... They flipped their offense like we flipped our secondary last year and could objectively be a good team given the fact that their defense was top 15 the year before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: At this point, my guess is that Allen is 1 win better than Peterman. Good Lord, I hope this is wrong. Allen is only one win better than last year's 5th round pick, who has about 60 minutes of NFL game experience, during which he mostly looked completely lost? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 4:17 PM, Kirby Jackson said: I think it’s the Browns. They have a more talented roster and a LOT more depth. Honest and pretty solid thought process. I agree. However if I'm guessing which team wins more games over the next 5 years...my bet would be Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Strethor said: All you have to do is look at their offense Top 3 WR + Jarvis Laundry Njoku, Hyde, potentially Dez, and a great receiving back Tyrod will not take full advantage of this but still... They flipped their offense like we flipped our secondary last year and could objectively be a good team given the fact that their defense was top 15 the year before The Browns also have some very good offensive linemen; they have invested heavily in this area. Last year they suffered from historically bad quarterbacking and the 32nd best coaching in the league. This year, the quarterbacking should be at least average and their young talent is going to start to show. I give them a shot at a wild card berth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, mannc said: Good Lord, I hope this is wrong. Allen is only one win better than last year's 5th round pick, who has about 60 minutes of NFL game experience, during which he mostly looked completely lost? Seriously? Peterman has looked pretty good so far this preseason, despite his draft status or last years play. It's a new year, and where you were drafted no longer matters.If we can e v a l Josh on this preseason, so can we with Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I am expecting a great year for Cleveland,with a lot of luck and no injuries the Browns should win at least 2 games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 10:32 PM, Bfanlc said: Based on what you guys have seen who wins more games this year? Bills or Browns? I would say Buffalo. But why are we comparing these 2 teams? How about Bills/Dolphins or Bills/Jests? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, row_33 said: hopefully both fanbases have something to cheer for this year, been a long time combined.... It's been a combined 46 years since either team won a playoff game! Holy hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: It's been a combined 46 years since either team won a playoff game! Holy hell. And the Browns backed into the playoffs in 2002, therefore that apparently (at least from what I have read on this board) doesn't count. So they really should have held the longest playoff drought instead of the Bills the past 19 or whatever years!!! Edited August 20, 2018 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: It's been a combined 46 years since either team won a playoff game! Holy hell. I could be mistaken, but I think if the Bengals don't win a playoff game this year it will make 30 years since they won one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I could be mistaken, but I think if the Bengals don't win a playoff game this year it will make 30 years since they won one... Detroit is up there as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Because of the culture, I believe the Bills will win more games this year. I really don’t know enough about the Browns D but, with TT, I suspect they won’t be lighting up the scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I could be mistaken, but I think if the Bengals don't win a playoff game this year it will make 30 years since they won one... They haven't won in 27 years. Last victory 1/6/91 vs. Houston Oilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Browns defense was certainly part of why the Bills o line looked putrid. TT is like years better than anything they trotted out last year. They are a lock to win at least 7 games, may be a wild card. Bills are a toss up and it’s all about josh Allen being able to start and LeSean McCoy running behind this new line. If those two don’t work out, the bills are in for a historically bad offense this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, ricojes said: Detroit is up there as well... 26 years. Last playoff win: 1/5/92 against Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 hours ago, mannc said: The Browns also have some very good offensive linemen; they have invested heavily in this area. Last year they suffered from historically bad quarterbacking and the 32nd best coaching in the league. This year, the quarterbacking should be at least average and their young talent is going to start to show. I give them a shot at a wild card berth. I think hue + Tyrod prevents them from playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised to see them tie or eclipse either the ravens or bengals in wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Bill's... is this even a hard question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Browns defense was certainly part of why the Bills o line looked putrid. TT is like years better than anything they trotted out last year. They are a lock to win at least 7 games, may be a wild card. Bills are a toss up and it’s all about josh Allen being able to start and LeSean McCoy running behind this new line. If those two don’t work out, the bills are in for a historically bad offense this season Not with that QB and coaches they are not Bills offense will be fine no matter who the QB as all 3 of them are better than who was here last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, pop gun said: Not with that QB and coaches they are not Bills offense will be fine no matter who the QB as all 3 of them are better than who was here last year. if only that were actually true. We know one for sure is not, and the other two have done literally nothing in their careers to prove that - zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: if only that were actually true. We know one for sure is not, and the other two have done literally nothing in their careers to prove that - zero. Which is why they are better than tuhrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Bills even if Allen starts week 1, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Yeah, I know people are down on the Browns watching Hard Knocks, but I think they get it done this year. I think we're due for some regression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: if only that were actually true. We know one for sure is not, and the other two have done literally nothing in their careers to prove that - zero. It is 2799 and 14 isn't setting a real high bar especially for a 7 year vet with 43 starts under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Browns will win 6-8 games. Bills 4-6. Edited August 21, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 hours ago, pop gun said: It is 2799 and 14 isn't setting a real high bar especially for a 7 year vet with 43 starts under his belt. It’s not a high bar at all. Which only furthers my point that outside of Allen neither of these other two scrubs will achieve it in their..... entire....career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: It’s not a high bar at all. Which only furthers my point that outside of Allen neither of these other two scrubs will achieve it in their..... entire....career. McCarron has started 4 games in his NFL career and has 1132 yards and 7 TDs. Yeah I don't think he would have a hard time surpassing Tyrods 2017 passing numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) I'm going with Buffalo. Do I bet on a team that has to completely turn it around or a team on the verge of greatness? I can't be serious about this situation. Edited August 21, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 The Browns will be the Browns and by Halloween there will be one or two more headstones in that guys yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 12 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Browns will win 6-8 games. Bills 4-6. This is pretty close to how I feel. I have Cleveland pegged for 6-8 and Buffalo for 4-7, so there's some overlap where Buffalo could end up with more wins, but I'd lean towards Cleveland personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Bills by virtue of coaching. Hue Jackson is a mess, so even with more talent, he will screw it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 If our run D and LBs don't seriously improve, the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 9:32 PM, Bfanlc said: Based on what you guys have seen who wins more games this year? Bills or Browns? Bills. However I reserve the right to change that vote if Browns fire The 1-31 Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Lots of bets on the Browns in Vegas Posted by Michael David Smith on August 21, 2018, 11:54 AM EDT The Browns have been the worst team in the NFL two years in a row, but that doesn’t mean no one will put money on them this year. In fact, Las Vegas sports books are seeing a steady stream of bets on the Browns to get to the Super Bowl. “There are more bets on the Browns to win the AFC North than the other three teams combined,” a sportsbook manager for Caesars Palace told ESPN. “Only the Raiders and Steelers have more bets to win the AFC [than the Browns]. The public likes the Browns, and I’m not sure why.” https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/21/lots-of-bets-on-the-browns-in-vegas/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 4:53 PM, Fadingpain said: They haven't won in 27 years. Last victory 1/6/91 vs. Houston Oilers. Yep. That put them in the divisional round “ Bo Jackson hip injury” game at LA Raiders. A week before the Bills first Super Bowl berth. Damn that was a long time ago. Of course, our Bills last playoff win was vs MIA in 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 8/26/2018 at 5:14 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Bump Was going through W-L stats this morning to update one of my spreadsheets. Remembered this thread and figured it was worth a re-look now that the records are in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'll admit I was wrong. Too bad they don't play NE twice a season. Steelers and Bungles took a dive in performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 i was in show me mode with the browns and they did it. still...meh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 browns having more wins than the bills was my #1 bold prediction in a couple other threads back in august....never saw this one. i'm going to say identical records for 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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