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The excitement around Allen in these couple of days in really fun for me, a guy who was so against drafting the kid...

 

I mean, I have obviously become a supporter since he is ours, but I didjr anticipate him looking this solid this early.

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6 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:

Thanks bro! That's crazy... they merge my link with this thread... so now Bill's fans wont be able to ready that article by Sal... that's just sad. 

yep, the site even went so far as to take the article down because Bills fans won't be able to read the article.

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9 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Its actually two shorts and 1 padded practice

 

It is encouraging that the padded practice is his best day

 

While talking about qbs.....why is everyone so down on AJM....who sounds like he has been very efficient with the ball.....

 

A guy that can do his job and not turn the ball over is not a BAD thing.....even if he doesnt make the cannon ooh aww throws

No AJ hasn’t been horrible.  

 

I’m thinking that people made a predetermined analysis on him and won’t let things play out to see if he’s a viable option going into the season.  

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Foxx said:

yep, the site even went so far as to take the article down because Bills fans won't be able to read the article.

It's 2018... typo. These phones are too smart for their own good

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15 minutes ago, Bring it said:

Your a good man!

 

But, in response to this post. Franchise Qb? Look I really like Allen and would love to finally say that we have a stud Qb. He hasn’t even had any pass rush yet! Anyone who has played the position knows it’s totally not the same thing without a pass rush. 

He has potential and can make any throw, but we will see.

Thanks!

 

Sorry for the late response. I was filling out a father of the year application. 

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3 hours ago, DefenseWins said:

So far the news on Allen has been encouraging. Good! But let's remember that Kelly had played two seasons in the USFL before coming here and his first couple seasons here were nothing really special though we saw glimpses of what he would ultimately achieve here. So let's all sit back and not expect too much too soon from the kid. 

tks Defense. I've been on the Allen train since BEFORE the pick (that could well go on my profile some day) but with a questionable O-line and possibly losing our HOF level RB do not be surprised if he struggles coming out the gate.  I am fully prepared for Rosen to outshine Allen this year assuming they both play.  But as McBeane continue to build a playoff team Allen will eventually emerge as the best QB of his class.  

 

As for Rosen, I predict he will be highly successful on the field, will routinely ^%^* on his teammates, coaches, and management, will change teams annually, and end up leaving the NFL to do color commentary for ESPN and/or run for political office in about 5 years.

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1 minute ago, Foxx said:

huh? wha?? the whole post was a typo? i don't understand what you are saying here.

It thought you notice my typo... when you said "yep, the site even went so far as to take the article down because Bills fans won't be able to read the article."

 

I had ready in there...instead of read. 

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7 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

It is a little early for that

 

but

 

One of them is not even in camp

 

One of them is having trouble being better then Tyrod Taylor

 

One of them is Josh Rosen........who is probably the most polished QB......but nobody knows how long he will last at the NFL level

 

Our QB missed more time in college and injured the same shoulder 3 times. This is fake news.

 

Rosen and Darnold will probably start, Allen should but after the NP debacle they will go AJ because of the "process" - that's how I see it. 

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I’d be into Allen starting and taking his lumps. If the D plays as well as last year I think we should still be fairly competitive. 

 

Im sure for every poor play he’ll have a nice one. He’s going to make mistakes but as long as we can get a few field goals and a td or two he’d basically be matching Taylor’s output. 

 

Taylor was safe to a fault. It would be nice to see someone willing to give a reciever a few chances to make a play instead of waiting to punt. 

 

Playing safe up a touchdown or field goal is not a winning recipe. That’s the coaches fault too. Hopefully Dabol’s a bit more aggressive. 

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1 hour ago, Scorp83 said:

Thanks bro! That's crazy... they merge my link with this thread... so now Bill's fans wont be able to ready that article by Sal... that's just sad. 

 

 

Its actually bs your thread had a link you commented on it. Every other thread was just someone’s thought when there were already 4 other threads

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1 hour ago, Scorp83 said:

It thought you notice my typo... when you said "yep, the site even went so far as to take the article down because Bills fans won't be able to read the article."

 

I had ready in there...instead of read. 

distortion reality from suffer you.

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4 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

Let's see how he does in preseason

 

...steady as she goes.......no need to rush the kid.......if McCarron is your steady Eddie game manager and moves the chains consistently, what's wrong with that?.......

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11 hours ago, theRalph said:

Josh Allen is winning this job. How refreshing to see some separation starting to manifest on day three of camp...rather than week three. We all know what that looks like.

 

It’s interesting that Allen had the most adversity in his college career of the 5 first round QBs and will be the first of them to start.  

 

I guess you're locked in on the other camps too....wow...Buffalo Bills fans.....but I guess you just reported it 1st.....This just in....Josh Allen is the 1st to start...reported by this guy!!

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s been so long since we’ve seen this ... Kyle Orton might have been the last time 

https://twitter.com/bufffanatics/status/1023557086616141825?s=21

 

Actually as I recall they were key to Nate's 50% preseason passing performance last summer.

 

Difference between Nate and even Orton is that Allen has the arm to get DB's turned around so that the back shoulder throw is like taking candy from a baby instead of a potential pick 6 when Nate throws it.

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Myself personally, I don't see Allen even in the mix to start day one of the regular season because regardless of what happens during TC and pre season live action in the regular season is impossible to duplicate. Different circumstances when Peterman was given his 1st chance to start whom is a very fast study and was still given TC, pre season and a good part of the regular season to learn a new O.

 

Pure speculation, but its not happening in my humble opinion.

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1 hour ago, mikemac2001 said:

 

 

Its actually bs your thread had a link you commented on it. Every other thread was just someone’s thought when there were already 4 other threads

Exactly! I tried to let @Hapless Bills Fan know...he seems to be one of the mods...

1 hour ago, mikemac2001 said:

 

 

Its actually bs your thread had a link you commented on it. Every other thread was just someone’s thought when there were already 4 other threads

& what's really bs...  is that they kept my title heading. Like the OP wrote it smh. 

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The last time i was this excited to watch pre-season football was when we had Tyrod battling it out with EJ and Cassel. Can't wait for this three way competition to get started.

9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

That's brutal. Maybe throw Peterman out there for the first three games. 

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1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

The last time i was this excited to watch pre-season football was when we had Tyrod battling it out with EJ and Cassel. Can't wait for this three way competition to get started.

 

That's brutal. Maybe throw Peterman out their for the first three games. 

 

Either AJM or Allen.  Peterman?   No. 

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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

This helps make my point.

 

Being a huge fan of the QB position and now our very own possible future superstar of the league in development my biggest concern is how well can we prepare, protect and support him which are 3 big question marks at this point IMO.

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9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

If he’s ready, the competition shouldn’t matter. I can’t imagine they will throw the kid to the wolves with a pass happy attack. Think Roethlisberger his rookie year.

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Just now, Figster said:

This helps make my point.

 

Being a huge fan of the QB position and now our very own possible future superstar of the league in development my biggest concern is how well can we prepare, protect and support him which are 3 big question marks at this point IMO.

Yep. And we did a terrible job of preparing and protecting Peterman last year in his first start against the Chargers. One of the first three teams we will play this year. I'm fine with sitting Allen for the first quarter of the season unless he is looking unbelievably good in the preseason.

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

This helps make my point.

 

Being a huge fan of the QB position and now our very own possible future superstar of the league in development my biggest concern is how well can we prepare, protect and support him which are 3 big question marks at this point IMO.

 

It's all about Allen's readiness regardless of the opponent.  Should he show he can handle the offense with the best production in camp/preseason then play him in week 1.  If not, fine with AJM starting the season.

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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It's all about Allen's readiness regardless of the opponent.  Should he show he can handle the offense with the best production in camp/preseason then play him in week 1.  If not, fine with AJM starting the season.

Do you honestly think TC or preseason against vanilla Defenses is going to give Buffalo anything concrete to base an opinion?

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

Do you honestly think TC or preseason against vanilla Defenses is going to give Buffalo anything concrete to base an opinion?

 

Of course the complexity of the coverage and pressure will be different once the real games begin, but that won't deter the coaches if they feel Allen is ready just as it hasn't with other rookie QBs around the league. 

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13 minutes ago, Figster said:

This helps make my point.

 

Being a huge fan of the QB position and now our very own possible future superstar of the league in development my biggest concern is how well can we prepare, protect and support him which are 3 big question marks at this point IMO.

 

The best player should start. Plain and simple.

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12 minutes ago, Foxx said:

when metal is forged with fire, it becomes stronger.

Or as McDermott has said a number of times.   

 

Steel sharpens steel. 

12 minutes ago, Figster said:

Do you honestly think TC or preseason against vanilla Defenses is going to give Buffalo anything concrete to base an opinion?

Nope, but it can be an indicator.  

 

All last season McDermott said Nate wasn’t ready and he wouldn’t throw him out there w/o a good reason.   

 

 

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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Of course the complexity of the coverage and pressure will be different once the real games begin, but that won't deter the coaches if they feel Allen is ready just as it hasn't with other rookie QBs around the league. 

The new coaching/ O installation along with the Oline reconstruction would make starting Josh Allen early on risky business in my humble opinion 26.

 

 Young QB's with sub par protection are more likely to develop bad habits IMO. 

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13 minutes ago, Figster said:

Do you honestly think TC or preseason against vanilla Defenses is going to give Buffalo anything concrete to base an opinion?

 

....now I'm disappointed 'Fig.....thought we would see some "startling revelations" ......then again, how 'bout the gang ALREADY convinced that Allen is a bust?....JOKERS gone wild on the flop.....

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

The new coaching/ O installation along with the Oline reconstruction would make starting Josh Allen early on risky business in my humble opinion 26.

 

 Young QB's with sub par protection are more likely to develop bad habits IMO. 

 

Believe me, I understand your trepidation with the supporting cast that on paper is not very strong and I'm sure the coaches will take everything into consideration when they make their decision.

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