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1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

I am very dissapointed in all of you this morning.  I can't believe this thread has only made it to page 121.  This is unacceptable.  I expect more from this group.  Think about this moving forward.  I expect us to be at 150 pages by midnight!:w00t:

 

I'm disappointed too - but for a very different reason.  

 

I enjoyed this thread when it was offering new information, intelligent speculation, and spirited debate.   

 

It's seems to have gone off the rails a bit lately.  

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If I'm the Bills. I get him placed on the Commissioner exempt list today. Don't wait. Your brand is much more important than one aging superstar. He stays there until it plays out. He gets charged, immediately cut. He doesn't, and the cops find no wrongdoing, he comes off the exempt list and back on the active roster. With allegations like these, he should even see the training camp field. 

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4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I'm disappointed too - but for a very different reason.  

 

I enjoyed this thread when it was offering new information, intelligent speculation, and spirited debate.   

 

It's seems to have gone off the rails a bit lately.  

To add to the strangeness of this story, there’s no news, at all, since the initial posts and police report.  The story has even fallen off the main page of ESPN.    

 

When theres no news, nothing to speculate on, I guess all we have left is to go off the rails ha. 

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1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

I am very dissapointed in all of you this morning.  I can't believe this thread has only made it to page 121.  This is unacceptable.  I expect more from this group.  Think about this moving forward.  I expect us to be at 150 pages by midnight!:w00t:

 

i think it caused a few to snap and get banned, who would have added 80 pages each on this topic.

 

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9 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

If he was after jewelry in her possession, why would he chose a break in time, post-eviction?

 

She and her possessions, including jewelry, would be gone. 

 

In that scenario, you'd want to hit the house before she was evicted, right?

 

I was thinking that since the jewelry was owned by McCoy, she would have to leave it at the house when she left the property.  But as others pointed out, who knows what this girl would do with the jewelry.

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7 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

If I'm the Bills. I get him placed on the Commissioner exempt list today. Don't wait. Your brand is much more important than one aging superstar. He stays there until it plays out. He gets charged, immediately cut. He doesn't, and the cops find no wrongdoing, he comes off the exempt list and back on the active roster. With allegations like these, he should even see the training camp field. 

 

I would think the Commissioner is the one that gets to put people on the Commissioner's Exempt list.  And they're not even at training camp yet, so he's not seeing that field.

 

Regardless of WHAT the Bills do right now, Shady is tied to their brand (I just had to answer questions in the work kitchen ?), so might as well let it play out a little bit longer...

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3 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

 

Please.

 

Just !@#$ing please.

 

The woman was a freeloader, and recalcitrant. Just because she got beat up doesn't mean we should canonize her. THAT AIN'T MISOGYNY.  It's the truth.

I said SPRINKLED with...Don't take my word out of context.

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4 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:

If I'm the Bills. I get him placed on the Commissioner exempt list today. Don't wait. Your brand is much more important than one aging superstar. He stays there until it plays out. He gets charged, immediately cut. He doesn't, and the cops find no wrongdoing, he comes off the exempt list and back on the active roster. With allegations like these, he should even see the training camp field. 

 

Jeepers-creepers, Watkins, other than claims made in a statement from his ex-girlfriend/house squatter's attorney there is no evidence against him and no reason to just flat out believe (without supplemental information) the word of someone who has a direct and contrary interest to Shady's.

 

Come on, man, that's not right and that's not fair.  He's your player if your the Bills and you run on him at the very whiff of something?  Your other players would love that and thank management, I'm sure.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Jeepers-creepers, Watkins, other than claims made in a statement from his ex-girlfriend/house squatter's attorney there is no evidence against him and no reason to just flat out believe (without supplemental information) the word of someone who has a direct and contrary interest to Shady's.

 

Come on, man, that's not right and that's not fair.  He's your player if your the Bills and you run on him at the very whiff of something?  Your other players would love that and thank management, I'm sure.

 

 

 

it's about the Image of the Shield, this is not good for the Image of the Shield

 

 

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3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

it's about the Image of the Shield, this is not good for the Image of the Shield

 

 

 

row, what isn't good for the image of the Shield?!

 

What DID HE DO THAT YOU KNOW AS FACT?!!!!!!

 

My biggest problem so far has been the use of language and allegations as fact in this.

 

I'm the guy who twittered Howard Simon yesterday and said you shouldn't use the word "facts" and instead use the word "allegations" which he did.

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4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

it's about the Image of the Shield, this is not good for the Image of the Shield

 

 

The damage has been done to "the Shield" already.  Cutting or putting him on the Exempt list (if they can) based only on allegations would make the Bills look worse...

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If people are advocating that players go on the exempt list due to, so far, unsubstantiated allegations... can we have someone on the board make unsubstantiated allegations against Tom Brady?

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10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If people are advocating that players go on the exempt list due to, so far, unsubstantiated allegations... can we have someone on the board make unsubstantiated allegations against Tom Brady?

That would be easy, he's been bending us over for years.

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26 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I'm the guy who twittered Howard Simon yesterday and said you shouldn't use the word "facts" and instead use the word "allegations" which he did.

Whoa Whoa-this is a family board here....

 

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47 minutes ago, ricojes said:

The damage has been done to "the Shield" already.  Cutting or putting him on the Exempt list (if they can) based only on allegations would make the Bills look worse...

 

tough situation....

17 minutes ago, SDubills said:

There has to be a way to skim through this easier for new updates and stuff rather than jamming all 122 pages into one thread. 

 

who wants to read all 122 pages, mostly comprised of conversation consisting of:

 

eff you

no eff you

no eff you!!

NO!! EFF YOU!!!!

NOOOOO!!! EFF YOU!!!

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9 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Nope, not sad at all. If it didn’t involve McCoy not many of us would be interested or even know about it. I do know she is refusing to leave a house that she doesn’t own. I can only imagine what else she finds to be acceptable behavior in her life. Her claimed “ victim” status doesn’t move my sympathy meter much. Guess I’m a terrible person. 

.. I guess, you're obviously reading her story more than I am, I don't care to read it cause it's nothing to do with the Bills. Call me crazy, but outside of serious criminal behavior nobody deserves to be beaten to a pulp lol. We don't need to act like this was an act of vigilante justice for pete's sake.

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58 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

row, what isn't good for the image of the Shield?!

 

What DID HE DO THAT YOU KNOW AS FACT?!!!!!!

 

 My biggest problem so far has been the use of language and allegations as fact in this.

 

 I'm the guy who twittered Howard Simon yesterday and said you shouldn't use the word "facts" and instead use the word "allegations" which he did.

That's technically Libel, and horrible reporting. Good hustle.

 

Pretty sure row was being facetious. I hope (whoever uses words "the shield" seriously is a tool). But he's right.. facts aren't required, since Ray Rice, you don't need facts, just simple publicity on domestic violence ruins the INTEGRITY OF THE SHIELD.

 

Zeke is a classic example, and I could see Shady getting 6 games the year after next, unless he's proven to have absolutely no involvement. A tall order to prove total innocence, rather than a proving not guilty.

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2 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

That's technically Libel, and horrible reporting. Good hustle.

 

Pretty sure row was being facetious. I hope (whoever uses words "the shield" seriously is a tool). But he's right.. facts aren't required, since Ray Rice, you don't need facts, just simple publicity on domestic violence ruins the INTEGRITY OF THE SHIELD.

 

Zeke is a classic example, and I could see Shady getting 6 games the year after next, unless he's proven to have absolutely no involvement. A tall order to prove total innocence, rather than a proving not guilty.

 

 

Great points.

 

@row_33

 

...and, row, if that is true above, forgive me for being a thick skull, which I usually think I am quick on the uptake with some of these things.  My bad.

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17 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

facts aren't required, since Ray Rice, you don't need facts, just simple publicity on domestic violence ruins the INTEGRITY OF THE SHIELD.

 

Wasn't there video evidence in the Ray Rice case?

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10 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Does nobody feel bad she got the crap beat out of her by somebody?? It's brutal. Might not be Shady but damn the character bashing here is so depersonalized.

 

I'm sorry she's blaming our favorite Bill.. are we not sad she is clearly a victim here?

Nah, here's why. There are two possibilities here. One, the one we're hoping for, is that Shady is completely innocent. If that's the case, she's a scumbag for lying about it. The other situation, is he's guilty. If that's the case, than he's been violently abusing his son, and she's kept her mouth shut, because it didn't directly affect her. 

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6 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Nah, here's why. There are two possibilities here. One, the one we're hoping for, is that Shady is completely innocent. If that's the case, she's a scumbag for lying about it. The other situation, is he's guilty. If that's the case, than he's been violently abusing his son, and she's kept her mouth shut, because it didn't directly affect her. 

 

At this point the possibilities are endless. There aren't just 2 possibilities

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1 minute ago, DanInUticaTampa said:

 

At this point the possibilities are endless. There aren't just 2 possibilities

 

 

Agreed.  Honestly, Dan, this story is crazy in the way it cuts, or falls evenly at this point, on both sides.

 

When they catch the assailant, we'll obviously have a better idea of what this is or was all about.

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7 hours ago, ALF said:

If they find the attacker , I just hope he has no connection to Shady. 

 

First Poyer now this during down time , at least Dareus is gone. 

 

What is the poyer stuff i keep hearing about. the google returns nothing

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4 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Agreed.  Honestly, Dan, this story is crazy in the way it cuts, or falls evenly at this point, on both sides.

 

When they catch the assailant, we'll obviously have a better idea of what this is or was all about.

I doubt anyone will get caught. Unless he wasnt wearing a mask and decided to keep the weapon he beat her with. Right now they have one person to talk to based on the victim....if she said that is the man that beat me, he would be in jail. Without that guy there is nothing to point to McCoy. Without hard evidence or a confession from the person who did it, no DA is going to file charges on someone that was in another state at the time it happened. They have 4 yrs to figure it out until the statute of limitations runs out. Maybe he will be able to get her out of the house by then. 

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2 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said:

I doubt anyone will get caught. Unless he wasnt wearing a mask and decided to keep the weapon he beat her with. Right now they have one person to talk to based on the victim....if she said that is the man that beat me, he would be in jail. Without that guy there is nothing to point to McCoy. Without hard evidence or a confession from the person who did it, no DA is going to file charges on someone that was in another state at the time it happened. They have 4 yrs to figure it out until the statute of limitations runs out. Maybe he will be able to get her out of the house by then. 

By now, I would have to think that forensics has gone through the house looking for prints and any other type of physical evidence.  But, it could take weeks to analyze everything that they've found.

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29 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Nah, here's why. There are two possibilities here. One, the one we're hoping for, is that Shady is completely innocent. If that's the case, she's a scumbag for lying about it. The other situation, is he's guilty. If that's the case, than he's been violently abusing his son, and she's kept her mouth shut, because it didn't directly affect her. 

oh okay so this is vigilante justice. What a hero whoever did this /s.

3 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I’m just here for my daily thread visit.

 

Anyone overreacting in here or what?

yeah I'm pickin fights

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50 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

That's technically Libel, and horrible reporting. Good hustle.

 

Pretty sure row was being facetious. I hope (whoever uses words "the shield" seriously is a tool). But he's right.. facts aren't required, since Ray Rice, you don't need facts, just simple publicity on domestic violence ruins the INTEGRITY OF THE SHIELD.

 

Zeke is a classic example, and I could see Shady getting 6 games the year after next, unless he's proven to have absolutely no involvement. A tall order to prove total innocence, rather than a proving not guilty.

 

yeah...unless it quickly becomes obvious that Shady had zero part in this (in a different state, no connection at all to whoever did this) I easily see 6 games.

 

If he is culpable, he's gone.

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3 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I’m just here for my daily thread visit.

 

Anyone overreacting in here or what?

 

Absolutely not.    btw, the Bills might sign Eddie Lacy.  Apparently he's down to 280 pounds.

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