Aussie Joe Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Ive changed my mind a few times over the past month, but I think they go with Peterman Week 1.. Im not down on Allen at all, and think that his play his preseason has been above my expectations, but I don't see what putting him out there to cop a beating for the first month or so will achieve... Hopefully the OL looks a bit better around Week 7 or so and you can bring him in then for the rest of the year... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Ive changed my mind a few times over the past month, but I think they go with Peterman Week 1.. Im not down on Allen at all, and think that his play his preseason has been above my expectations, but I don't see what putting him out there to cop a beating for the first month or so will achieve... Hopefully the OL looks a bit better around Week 7 or so and you can bring him in then for the rest of the year... Mostly agree but i do not think this line will improve in the pass blocking. I think we have a bunch of maulers who love smashing a defensive player but who can not back pedal and plant properly. I fear for a qb who can get get to the line of scrimmage and decide where ball is going before snap 90% of time. Peterman is right now a better fit for the talent on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Ive changed my mind a few times over the past month, but I think they go with Peterman Week 1.. Im not down on Allen at all, and think that his play his preseason has been above my expectations, but I don't see what putting him out there to cop a beating for the first month or so will achieve... Hopefully the OL looks a bit better around Week 7 or so and you can bring him in then for the rest of the year... How many 1st team defenses has Peterman seen so far ? Even Tom Brady would've been crushed behind that pathetic excuse for an OL today. With that being said, I'm in favor of either McCarron or Peterman in Game 1. Allen needs a year or maybe more. McDermott is lucky Allen didn't get a concussion on that one play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Josh looked tentative and wasn’t quick on the draw imo. Lets hope it improves quickly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Admittedly this is the first time I’ve opened this thread. But I’m assuming there are a lot of freezing cold takes in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Admittedly this is the first time I’ve opened this thread. But I’m assuming there are a lot of freezing cold takes in here. Some good some bad and some downright stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 First time opening this thread as well. Wouldn't have anticipated the McCarron injury. Anyway I'd start Peterman and just let him chuck it all over the place. I figure even if he throws 5 INT's again he's not the future here. Really don't want to see Allen's confidence shot and or take beatings like today. Like it or not he's a valuable asset to protect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Admittedly this is the first time I’ve opened this thread. But I’m assuming there are a lot of freezing cold takes in here. Welcome! I wish I could say you're not going to regret it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Another Fan said: First time opening this thread as well. Wouldn't have anticipated the McCarron injury. Anyway I'd start Peterman and just let him chuck it all over the place. I figure even if he throws 5 INT's again he's not the future here. Really don't want to see Allen's confidence shot and or take beatings like today. Like it or not he's a valuable asset to protect i think whoever we put in should NOT be throwing it all over the yard. Establish the run game and play ball control. Let the D do it's thing and capitalize on TOs. I believe that to be the process. I partially blame the coaches for the Nasty Nate Chargers debacle. Bring a rookie QB in on the road against a strong pass rush and have him throw it all over the yard. Especially after the 3 play all run play drive to put us back in the lead. Edited August 27, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Time to admit I was wrong- for all my peterman jabs over the past few months. He deserves to start week one and I hope he does well the entire season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Nasty Nate had his usual stellar pre season game performance. Hats off to him. i still don't trust him in a real game. Not so sure Coach McDermott does either. Not counting AJ out yet ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Nathan Peterman is super impressive. He put in the work. He earned it. I was wrong as well in the "Get Ready for the Peterman Era" thread. Josh Allen will have to sit down and watch Nasty Nate light it up. Sucks for Josh Allen fans. Edited August 27, 2018 by Buffalo Ballin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Nathan Peterman is super impressive. He put in the work. He earned it. I was wrong as well in the "Get Ready for the Peterman Era" thread. Josh Allen will have to sit down and watch Nasty Nate light it up. Sucks for Josh Allen fans. Just look at these stats. These guys are gonna light it up too: National Football League Stats - by Player Category | NFL.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Just look at these stats. These guys are gonna light it up too: National Football League Stats - by Player Category | NFL.com Josh Allen is at number 50 when sorted by total yards at the moment. Doesn't look good right now for him. Allen can still start though. You have the video game called "Madden" anywhere? You can start him there. I sort by, AS OF RIGHT NOW, total yards, QB rating, total completions, touchdowns, and completion percentage and Nasty Nate is on the top 10 for all of those categories. Super impressive. Edited August 27, 2018 by Buffalo Ballin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Josh Allen is at number 50 when sorted by total yards at the moment. Doesn't look good right now for him. Allen can still start though. You have the video game called "Madden" anywhere? You can start him there. I sort by, AS OF RIGHT NOW, total yards, QB rating, total completions, touchdowns, and completion percentage and Nasty Nate is on the top 10 for all of those categories. Super impressive. at basing anything on preseason stats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 6 hours ago, major said: Time to admit I was wrong- for all my peterman jabs over the past few months. He deserves to start week one and I hope he does well the entire season props to you my man. ....although i'm willing to bet you're the only one with the stones to fan up and admit it. 6 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Nathan Peterman is super impressive. He put in the work. He earned it. I was wrong as well in the "Get Ready for the Peterman Era" thread. Josh Allen will have to sit down and watch Nasty Nate light it up. Sucks for Josh Allen fans. i stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 54 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: props to you my man. ....although i'm willing to bet you're the only one with the stones to fan up and admit it. i stand corrected. So what happens if Peterman starts next week and gets decimated behind this sad line? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: So what happens if Peterman starts next week and gets decimated behind this sad line? Asking for a friend. assuming you mean against the ravens....well he's the guy who gets the ball out in 2 seconds or less, so hopefully we have a shot. even if he gets k.o.'d, we would have to throw a.j. in. i do not want to see allen taking a beating. on the flipside...what if he gets a w in balt. and then puts on a clinic at home and beats LA? that would be frigging awesome.... Edited August 27, 2018 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: assuming you mean against the ravens....well he's the guy who gets the ball out in 2 seconds or less, so hopefully we have a shot. even if he gets k.o.'d, we would have to throw a.j. in. i do not want to see allen taking a beating. on the flipside...what if he gets a w in balt. and then puts on a clinic at home and beats LA? that would be frigging awesome.... No. I actually did mean next week. The next preseason game. We still have anything to game to play Why would you assume I meant against the Ravens? Whomever starts behind this sack of sh*t line is going to get murdered. Allen didn't even have 2 seconds to get the ball off most of the plays. (For the record I have said this repeatedly that I think np should start the season, since I don't want Allen to get annihilated against those dlines early on, but I refuse to act like I think np is a better QB than Allen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I think Peterman has earned the start, but with that OL, it won't mean very much. Unless the OL tightens up, we'll go through a long list of QBs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills4Ever4Life Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, hemma said: I think Peterman has earned the start, but with that OL, it won't mean very much. Unless the OL tightens up, we'll go through a long list of QBs this year. To be fair, Peterman played behind this same O-line when he was with the 1's and didn't take a beating. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, hemma said: I think Peterman has earned the start, but with that OL, it won't mean very much. Unless the OL tightens up, we'll go through a long list of QBs this year. QB makes such a big difference in pass protection. Even if the OL gets beat its nearly impossible to sack the QB if the ball is thrown on time. Edited August 27, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills4Ever4Life Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: QB makes such a big difference in pass protection. Even if the OL gets beat its nearly impossible to sack the QB if the ball is thrown on time. Correct, that is how Tom Brady does it most of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, Bills4Ever4Life said: Correct, that is how Tom Brady does it most of the time Brady has the best pocket awareness of all time. He's actually better with pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I’m in favor of starting Peterman. Just not AJ McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: No. I actually did mean next week. The next preseason game. We still have anything to game to play Why would you assume I meant against the Ravens? Whomever starts behind this sack of sh*t line is going to get murdered. Allen didn't even have 2 seconds to get the ball off most of the plays. (For the record I have said this repeatedly that I think np should start the season, since I don't want Allen to get annihilated against those dlines early on, but I refuse to act like I think np is a better QB than Allen) sorry, thought you meant baltimore. i hope they have made the week one starter decision already. i think they have and if not, that means they can't properly game plan. i have no idea why they would wait til after this last game to decide. what could they possibly learn playing guys that are gonna be cut by chicago? if this truly was a competition, nate has won the job hands down and no one can out perform in one game what he's done in 3. as far as thursday goes, (again i hope they name nate the starter prior to thurs.), i would start allen and finish with a.j. fwiw i wasn't trying to throw any snark when i quoted you before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Happy hundredth page!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: at basing anything on preseason stats. gotta give it to ya, you're consistent. you've been bashing nate for months...he won't ever play in the nfl again....he won't make the team.....he'll never start another game.... welp, here he is...and most likely gonna see time starting...and possibly winning. you can't deny the need we have for a qb who can get the ball out in under 2 seconds...or complete 6 or 7 straight passes on scoring drives. i don't know how you can carry such a grudge against a guy who has proven you (consistently) wrong at every turn so far. even tranny has backed off a bit. now i'm gonna wish i hadn't responded to your post because i know what's coming. Edited August 27, 2018 by billsredneck1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Peterman will set an unbreakable career record for pick sixes per attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: gotta give it to ya, you're consistent. you've been bashing nate for months...he won't ever play in the nfl again....he won't make the team.....he'll never start another game.... welp, here he is...and most likely gonna see time starting...and possibly winning. you can't deny the need we have for a qb who can get the ball out in under 2 seconds...or complete 6 or 7 straight passes on scoring drives. i don't know how you can carry such a grudge against a guy who has proven you (consistently) wrong at every turn so far. even tranny has backed off a bit. now i'm gonna wish i hadn't responded to your post because i know what's coming. Bashing? I don't think he's a long term solution as the Bills' starter and I haven't seen anything from him to convince me otherwise. Let him perform in the regular season against 1st team defenses vs. complex coverage and pass rush schemes that game plan against his weaknesses and he'll convince me. You people who think he's shown anything worth banking on in preseason action make me laugh. Edited August 27, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Bashing? I don't think he's a long term solution as the Bills' starter and I haven't seen anything from him to convince me otherwise. Let him perform in the regular season against 1st team defenses vs. complex coverage and pass rush schemes that game plan against his weaknesses and he'll convince me. You people who think he's shown anything worth banking on preseason action make me laugh. I don't know what's meant by "banking on", but if you look at Peterman's performance this preseason vs last preseason, IMO there's no question he's improved. Whether that improvement will translate into the regular season or persist once teams have a few games of tape in Daboll's offense to pick apart, remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Nice call op. You likely nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't know what's meant by "banking on", but if you look at Peterman's performance this preseason vs last preseason, IMO there's no question he's improved. Whether that improvement will translate into the regular season or persist once teams have a few games of tape in Daboll's offense to pick apart, remains to be seen. Exactly to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, DJB said: Nice call op. You likely nailed it! Well with a raw Josh Allen and shaky and somewhat injured McCarron, I don't think anyone can claim OP is Nostradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I want Nate to start if for no other reason to give everyone a big F you who wrote him off after half of a game in his first ever start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: Happy hundredth page!!! 1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said: gotta give it to ya, you're consistent. you've been bashing nate for months...he won't ever play in the nfl again....he won't make the team.....he'll never start another game.... welp, here he is...and most likely gonna see time starting...and possibly winning. you can't deny the need we have for a qb who can get the ball out in under 2 seconds...or complete 6 or 7 straight passes on scoring drives. i don't know how you can carry such a grudge against a guy who has proven you (consistently) wrong at every turn so far. even tranny has backed off a bit. now i'm gonna wish i hadn't responded to your post because i know what's coming. 16 months to be more precise Lovingly, Mrs Peterman 1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said: gotta give it to ya, you're consistent. you've been bashing nate for months...he won't ever play in the nfl again....he won't make the team.....he'll never start another game.... welp, here he is...and most likely gonna see time starting...and possibly winning. you can't deny the need we have for a qb who can get the ball out in under 2 seconds...or complete 6 or 7 straight passes on scoring drives. i don't know how you can carry such a grudge against a guy who has proven you (consistently) wrong at every turn so far. even tranny has backed off a bit. now i'm gonna wish i hadn't responded to your post because i know what's coming. mind boggling it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Peterman will set an unbreakable career record for pick sixes per attempt. The one pass he can't make is a curl or out to the far right sideline. I think he completed a deep out to the left to Kerley yesterday. And his pass to Reilly over the middle in between 3 defenders had plenty of zip on it. They just need to take out that one play to the right. 48 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Yep that's what Allen needs work on. His internal clock is a half second too slow which is an eternity in the NFL. And there's no way his internal clock gets fixed playing behind this offensive line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yes, when the opposing team is up 4 scores and empties their bench, Peterman is the perfect choice to mop up the blood. Maybe a few garbage time scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yes, when the opposing team is up 4 scores and empties their bench, Peterman is the perfect choice to mop up the blood. Maybe a few garbage time scores. Yes, Nate shined against the 2's just like Josh shined against the 2's last week. You sir, are better than that. (or at least you used to be) We're DOOMED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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