RIP Anthony Bourdain

[LeviF]

3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

the pot calling the kettle no?

 

Doesn't make me wrong  

[BuffaloBill]

5 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

I always found it to be interesting, given his history as a drug addict, that he continued to drink alcohol quite liberally.

 

 

This would suggest that his addiction just shifted focus.  Keep in mind he also gleefully smoked weed on the show when he could.

[plenzmd1]

17 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Doesn't make me wrong  

you got a point!!!!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

don't equal happy....mental illness knows nothing of money...

 

 

 

Money can't buy you happiness, but it can make you awfully comfortable while you're being miserable.

 

--C.B. Luce

[Dante]

3 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Very sad.  Having grown up in a restaurant, Kitchen Confidential is one of the most influential books I have ever read in my life.  Such a wise man.  This sucks.

Great book. Man drugs are bad. Even if you kick the habit it seems the ghost follows you forever.

I really enjoyed him in his shows. He was a natural on TV because his personality, his enthusiasm was authentic. I liked him on everything he was on. He and the Frenchman Ludo were great foes on "The Taste"

But it's so sad I didn't know he still had these demons. 

Another influential book, to myself anyway, is Ramsay's "Roasting In Hells Kitchen". I never realized his childhood was so bad

[Jauronimo]

2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

I always found it to be interesting, given his history as a drug addict, that he continued to drink alcohol quite liberally.

I think that was only when the camera was rolling.  He said a few times he had no alcohol in his home.  Granted he may have only been home 5 days a year.

[plenzmd1]

20 minutes ago, Dante said:

 

I really enjoyed him in his shows.

 

I did too..but must say I saw him live in Richmond a few years back..thought he was trying a bit too hard and taking himself a bit too seriously. Still watched his show, but not with the same enthusiasm as I once did.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Simple:  People love a crutch and fall prey to the trappings. Hard for some to cope with real life... They escape and fall deeper down.

 

It's the easy answer, who doesn't like an easy answer?

 

They let it crush their soul, their spirit.

 

May he RIP.

[Buffalo716]

RIP

aways loved his shows

21 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I think that was only when the camera was rolling.  He said a few times he had no alcohol in his home.  Granted he may have only been home 5 days a year.

 

I read he was on the road 250-270 days a year . So maybe 100 days one

Edited June 8, 2018 by Buffalo716

[Heitz]

40 minutes ago, Dante said:

Great book. Man drugs are bad. Even if you kick the habit it seems the ghost follows you forever.

I really enjoyed him in his shows. He was a natural on TV because his personality, his enthusiasm was authentic. I liked him on everything he was on. He and the Frenchman Ludo were great foes on "The Taste"

But it's so sad I didn't know he still had these demons. 

Another influential book, to myself anyway, is Ramsay's "Roasting In Hells Kitchen". I never realized his childhood was so bad

 

Ludo's post on Insta brought a tear to my eye (as have several) - Bourdain was such in influence on so many...

 

 

[CowgirlsFan]

Sad.

 

Condolences to his family his friends and his fans.

[707BillsFan]

5 hours ago, Seasons1992 said:

The first time I ever heard of him was seeing his Iceland episode of No Reservations in 2005. I was enamored from that moment on. Read Kitchen Confidential, and Medium Raw, and retroactively watched A Cook's Tour and kept up with him through the years. He certainly lived his life to the fullest and this is NOT the way I thought he would go out. 

Fittingly and most sadly, he was found by his best friend Eric Ripart who is an amazing chef and a great counterpart to Tony. 

 

RIP, Anthony. I will miss your work terribly.

Same here. From the moment I first started watching him, I was mesmerized storytelling and way he carried himself. I read his first book, saw him on the lecture circuit when he came to our city. He was cool personified. Once again, proves we really don't know the demons people face on a daily basis. Mental Health issues don't discriminate. 

[Max Fischer]

4 hours ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Dead serious.  The constant chase for pleasure through (often dangerous) vices is usually indicative of some sort of issue.

 

This is not correct, at all. I know many people who you would (ignorantly) consider "hedonist" who have never had hint of mental illness or depression. On the other hand, I've known more than a few who suffer from depression who do not embrace life. 

[LeviF]

2 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

 

This is not correct, at all. I know many people who you would (ignorantly) consider "hedonist" who have never had hint of mental illness or depression. On the other hand, I've known more than a few who suffer from depression who do not embrace life. 

 

So hedonism doesn't exist or your friends aren't actually hedonists or what?  I don't think I know the same people you know so maybe you can tell me what I think.

 

 

 

Also Wes Anderson sucks and his movies suck harder. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

41 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

Also Wes Anderson sucks and his movies suck harder. 

 

Awww, no.  I always thought you were a pretty riteous poster, Levi.  You just went from Michael to Fredo Corleone in my book, brotha.

 

Please take it back...

[Chef Jim]

!@#$ing Chefs................. ?

[Fadingpain]

Saw the headline, was shocked, and immediately thought "I bet it was suicide."

And so it was.  What a shame.

 

I bumped into him at a Borders book store in the DC area years ago.  He had a book out and was the guest speaker that night.  I met him in line for the coffee bar.    

Cool guy, stylishly dressed...

 

He strikes me as the kind of guy to have some demons and I'm not surprised by the suicide, though I wouldn't have predicted it either.  

 

The world's lost a good chef.  

 

 

[LeviF]

16 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Awww, no.  I always thought you were a pretty riteous poster, Levi.  You just went from Michael to Fredo Corleone in my book, brotha.

 

Please take it back...

 

Love you buddy, just not a fan. Just something about all his movies makes me cringe. Between that and constantly being bored during his films (Fantastic Mr. Fox excepted) I just can't sit through them. 

[Teddy KGB]

25 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Love you buddy, just not a fan. Just something about all his movies makes me cringe. Between that and constantly being bored during his films (Fantastic Mr. Fox excepted) I just can't sit through them. 

 

Agree with you on most of them 

 

lot of snoozefests      The hotel Budapest one was pretty good though 

[NoSaint]

On 6/8/2018 at 8:54 AM, YoloinOhio said:

Wow. That’s interesting. Any specific signs or just a gut feeling?

 

He at times openly discussed having those demons 

 

hes is a recovering addict that drank like a fish 

 

 

I’m surprised of the timing - but not shocked at all that he might end up here. Anyone that’s familiar with mental health and actually paid attention to him and not just watched with jealousy of his job likely picked up on him wrestling with stuff. He did a pretty good job of addressing those demons it seems but when that’s a daily choice to be alive- all it takes is one day of making the wrong choice and you end up here. Most of us rarely think twice of that choice, but some have to really make it conciously thousands of times without getting it wrong one time. I’m surprised on set, with his best friend is where he slipped... though he openly admitted that despite the life looking charmed, it was also very hard. 

Edited June 9, 2018 by NoSaint

[eball]

Really hated to hear this.  Loved his style and was introduced to many different cultures watching his "destination" shows on TV.  He lived hard, and obviously had demons.  So sad he couldn't overcome them.

 

Mental illness sucks.

[Punching Bag]

I was introduced to him on CNN at work.  

CNN was only station allowed on at work (although person in charge seemed to find it okay to turn it to soccer games) despite government paying for DirectTV (Imaging paying DirectTV and only watching one station).  His show and "This is Life with Lisa Ling" were only things I wanted to watch that were on but the rest were just noise I was trying to ignore.

 

He had a great story telling style; it reminded me of some of the story tellers at Renaissance faires I go to.

 

Government got tired of complaints about CNN post election and they changed the 'allowed station' to local news station which is at least 50% infomercials.   Not seen a show since.

 

A pity about this.  Reminds me of Robin Williams who all to live for but could not deal with issues anymore.

[Fadingpain]

CNN really dedicated a lot of air time last night to this story.

Tonight they are airing a series of "Parts Unknown" greatest hits if anyone is interested.

 

 

Edited June 9, 2018 by Fadingpain

[Pete]

I have always been a big fan and even have his Le Halles cookbook(I love Fbombs in cookbooks!).  I dug A Cooks Tour, and Kitchen Confidential is mandatory reading for any chef.  This is so tragic.  I was shocked to saw that he had a show on CNN and wondered if felt like a total sellout-like some of his targets.  Bourdain lived every chefs dream life- travel the world, sample all the world flavors, party with locals, have chef buddies show you their town, getting hooked up by chefs world wide constantly....all that, Tony had an 11 year old daughter, and it still didn't help his depression.  I wish peace to Tony and his family  

[Augie]

Not surprisingly, my Amazon order of Kitchen Confidential is on backorder. 

[NoSaint]

13 minutes ago, Pete said:

I have always been a big fan and even have his Le Halles cookbook(I love Fbombs in cookbooks!).  I dug A Cooks Tour, and Kitchen Confidential is mandatory reading for any chef.  This is so tragic.  I was shocked to saw that he had a show on CNN and wondered if felt like a total sellout-like some of his targets.  Bourdain lived every chefs dream life- travel the world, sample all the world flavors, party with locals, have chef buddies show you their town, getting hooked up by chefs world wide constantly....all that, Tony had an 11 year old daughter, and it still didn't help his depression.  I wish peace to Tony and his family  

 

Mental health can be a real tough one. Having fun and being satisfied can be two very different things and sometimes you see it get harder the better your life is. Imagine you are living your absolute dream and you are still struggling with those thoughts, for instance. 

 

As an an outsider I can’t say much about what he was dealing with as an individual but will say life’s often harder than it looks.

[TPS]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

I have always been a big fan and even have his Le Halles cookbook(I love Fbombs in cookbooks!).  I dug A Cooks Tour, and Kitchen Confidential is mandatory reading for any chef.  This is so tragic.  I was shocked to saw that he had a show on CNN and wondered if felt like a total sellout-like some of his targets.  Bourdain lived every chefs dream life- travel the world, sample all the world flavors, party with locals, have chef buddies show you their town, getting hooked up by chefs world wide constantly....all that, Tony had an 11 year old daughter, and it still didn't help his depression.  I wish peace to Tony and his family  

One of my favorite episodes of No Reservations was in Paris. He's doing an early morning tour of the modern Les Halles and for breakfast they have a rare piece of beef on baguette with red wine, and he says something like, "This is breakfast. !@#$ Cheerios man!"

I cooked for 6-7 years in my youth and having read read Kitchen Confidential wished I had written it. He was an astute observer of the places and cultures he visited, and I appreciated his commentary. I've met his Russian buddy Zamir a couple times and follow him on FB. He's crushed. It makes no sense....RIP Tony.

[RaoulDuke79]

7 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

CNN really dedicated a lot of air time last night to this story.

Tonight they are airing a series of "Parts Unknown" greatest hits if anyone is interested.

 

 

Watching it now.....such a cool dude. What a bummer. Huge loss. Probably the only time I'll watch cnn this year.

Edited June 10, 2018 by RaoulDuke79

[Augie]

16 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Watching it now.....such a cool dude. What a bummer. Huge loss. Probably the only time I'll watch cnn this year.

 

Also watching now too. Thanks to both of you for the heads up. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

https://amp.businessinsider.com/anthony-bourdain-kate-spade-suicide-rate-mental-healthcare-costs-2018-6

 

Surely, Spade &.Bourdain could afford a shrink!

[Johnny Hammersticks]

22 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

https://amp.businessinsider.com/anthony-bourdain-kate-spade-suicide-rate-mental-healthcare-costs-2018-6

 

Surely, Spade &.Bourdain could afford a shrink!

 

...and so could have Robin Willliams.   What’s your point?

[ExiledInIllinois]

29 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

...and so could have Robin Willliams.   What’s your point?

(I am) taking umbrage w/article... Claiming we need to throw more money into health. 

 

Maybe it's the soul crushing environments people are competing in?

Edited June 10, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois

[NoSaint]

On 6/9/2018 at 11:14 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

(I am) taking umbrage w/article... Claiming we need to throw more money into health. 

 

Maybe it's the soul crushing environments people are competing in?

 

Saw an article today about how hard his schedule had been and that he was spending more time alone when he could 

[Dante]

Did a final autopsy/toxicology report come back on this yet? Just curious. What's a little strange to me is all reports that I have seen point to him being in a good place. One of those things that don't add up.

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, Dante said:

Did a final autopsy/toxicology report come back on this yet? Just curious. What's a little strange to me is all reports that I have seen point to him being in a good place. One of those things that don't add up.

 

 

My wife who is usually a very good judge of this stuff says she saw signs of him being “disconnected” or “dark” in the episodes aired so far this season.  I remain stunned that he went out in the way that he did.  At the same time, it’s paradoxically not unexpected.  The guy had demons and I think he sought to overcome them through work.  

[Chef Jim]

On 6/9/2018 at 8:18 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

https://amp.businessinsider.com/anthony-bourdain-kate-spade-suicide-rate-mental-healthcare-costs-2018-6

 

Surely, Spade &.Bourdain could afford a shrink!

 

Who needs a shrink when you’re ok because you’re on your meds.  It’s when you go off your meds that there is a problem. Not saying this is what happened but often times it is. This is why insurance companies shy away from people on depression meds. They tend to go off them. Imagine thinking you’re cured and drop the meds only to find out you’re not. That’s depressing even to a non/depressive. 

[Dante]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Who needs a shrink when you’re ok because you’re on your meds.  It’s when you go off your meds that there is a problem. Not saying this is what happened but often times it is. This is why insurance companies shy away from people on depression meds. They tend to go off them. Imagine thinking you’re cured and drop the meds only to find out you’re not. That’s depressing even to a non/depressive. 

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Just a theory but I have always thought that's what a lot of these mass shootings are caused by. Either weird effects by the drugs or going off them.

[row_33]

35 minutes ago, Dante said:

Just a theory but I have always thought that's what a lot of these mass shootings are caused by. Either weird effects by the drugs or going off them.

 

 

black box warnings on anti-Ds warn of effects that build up a mass murderer in no time flat.

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

38 minutes ago, Dante said:

Just a theory but I have always thought that's what a lot of these mass shootings are caused by. Either weird effects by the drugs or going off them.

One of the terrorists we captured stated that before these suicide missions and mass killings.....these guys get drugged up big time.

[row_33]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

One of the terrorists we captured stated that before these suicide missions and mass killings.....these guys get drugged up big time.

 

most of the mug shots for mass shooters taken in show them drugged up to their eyeballs with anti-D meds