Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) Didn’t see this posted anywhere: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/05/antonio_brown_revisits_taking_draft_day_call_from_steelers_instead_of_buffalo_bi.html FWIW, I think that he’s the best player in football. He’s better than Danny Batten. Edited May 21, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Interesting how it took this long for this story to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 first Tom Brady now this......oh boy certain "fans" are gonna hold onto this one.... Ill be honest it does sting a little tho lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 was a good decision for Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 "Perhaps if Buffalo had called a few minutes sooner, Brown would have been a member of the Bills." And Antonio Brown would not have been Antonio Brown. Good for him. He'd have been completely !@#$ed if he was drafted by Buffalo. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 We already had our own Antonio Brown, and didn't want to confuse things. Keeping up with the Williamses was hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Didn’t see this posted anywhere: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/05/antonio_brown_revisits_taking_draft_day_call_from_steelers_instead_of_buffalo_bi.html FWIW, I think that he’s the best player in football. He’s better than Danny Batten. Apples to oranges. How many career sacks does AB have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I 100% doubt the Bills passed on Brown because he didn't answer the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: I 100% doubt the Bills passed on Brown because he didn't answer the phone. Happened with Rosen, so ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 If the Bills really didn't draft him because he didn't pick up the phone, that is Gomer Pyle-level behavior by Nix. I find it hard to believe that this was the reason he wasn't picked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Didn’t see this posted anywhere: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/05/antonio_brown_revisits_taking_draft_day_call_from_steelers_instead_of_buffalo_bi.html FWIW, I think that he’s the best player in football. He’s better than Danny Batten. "He's better than Danny Batten" Internet wins today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Antonio must have gone to mass that morning. Blessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Wouldn't have mattered, he wouldn't have had a QB to throw to him to make him the Antonio Brown people want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 It’s our turn to have some of these things bounce our way and payoff long-term! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 We didn’t have a qb. Wouldn’t have mattered. He’d probably be on another team or out of the league by now. 11 minutes ago, Woodman19 said: Wouldn't have mattered, he wouldn't have had a QB to throw to him to make him the Antonio Brown people want. Weird. Made my post and then looked two above it. Way too similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I wonder if Nix passed on Russell Wilson for the same reason. Still can’t billieve we traded up for a WR that was suppose to go undrafted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, Woodman19 said: Wouldn't have mattered, he wouldn't have had a QB to throw to him to make him the Antonio Brown people want. 36 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: We didn’t have a qb. Wouldn’t have mattered. He’d probably be on another team or out of the league by now. Weird. Made my post and then looked two above it. Way too similar. I don’t know that he would have become the best player in the league but he certainly wouldn’t have been out of the league either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t know that he would have become the best player in the league but he certainly wouldn’t have been out of the league either. Tough to say. If Deonte didn’t happen upon the Bills and have those ridiculous games does he sign with the Cowboys? If he shows up on a team that has enough wrs ahead of him he may never make the field and show what he could do. Two part question... 1. How many teams give their undrafted free agents a chance to start? 2. Of those teams how many have a qb that passes to them? Edited May 21, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, uticaclub said: I wonder if Nix passed on Russell Wilson for the same reason. Still can’t billieve we traded up for a WR that was suppose to go undrafted. That was hilarious. Myself and everyone I was with at the time thought for sure the Bills were drafting Wilson when news broke that we traded up. The TV flashes THE BUFFALO BILLS SELECT...TJ GRAHAM, WR, NC STATE and I immediately break my television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Tough to say. If Deonte didn’t happen upon the Bills and have those ridiculous games does he sign with the Cowboys? If he shows up on a team that has enough wrs ahead of him he may never make the field and show what he could do. Two part question... 1. How many teams give their undrafted free agents a chance to start? 2. Of those teams how many have a qb that passes to them? The best player in the league doesn’t fall out of the league. He may have just been a good receiver but there’s ZERO chance that talent failed. The cream rises.... 1. Guys that play well 2. QBs pass to the best receivers on every single team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The best player in the league doesn’t fall out of the league. He may have just been a good receiver but there’s ZERO chance that talent failed. The cream rises.... 1. Guys that play well 2. QBs pass to the best receivers on every single team. Cream doesn’t always rise, not even close. Most teams in this league don’t do player for player trades. Some never will. We traded a struggling Kelvin Sheppard for an extremely disappointing Jerry Hughes. Think about how many players never got dealt to a suitable system, how many guys that could of blew it up never getting their shot. Happens way more than you think, whether it be system, compatible players, inept management. As much as skill matters luck plays as big if not bigger a part. Time and place means everything. Especially in a team game like football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Cream doesn’t always rise, not even close. Most teams in this league don’t do player for player trades. Some never will. We traded a struggling Kelvin Sheppard for an extremely disappointing Jerry Hughes. Think about how many players never got dealt to a suitable system, how many guys that could of blew it up never getting their shot. Happens way more than you think, whether it be system, compatible players, inept management. As much as skill matters luck plays as big if not bigger a part. Time and place means everything. Especially in a team game like football. Let me ask it a different way. Do you honestly believe that Antonio Brown would have been out of the league if the Bills drafted him? If you really believe that I believe that you are delusional. Again, I’m not saying that he would have become the best player in the league. He may have been merely a “good receiver.” He might have had Emmanuel Sanders’ career. There is no chance that a guy with that ability was going to fail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Cream doesn’t always rise, not even close. Most teams in this league don’t do player for player trades. Some never will. We traded a struggling Kelvin Sheppard for an extremely disappointing Jerry Hughes. Think about how many players never got dealt to a suitable system, how many guys that could of blew it up never getting their shot. Happens way more than you think, whether it be system, compatible players, inept management. As much as skill matters luck plays as big if not bigger a part. Time and place means everything. Especially in a team game like football. Jerry Hughes did not blow up like AB did either. I think Kirby's point is HoF potential guys might have just been good players if they were stuck in bad situations. Just like good player potential guys might have been busts if they were stuck in bad situations. AB on a bad team might have just carved out a solid career. Randy Moss on a bad team might have been a good WR. But they would never be nobodies. Jerry Hughes on a bad team would be a nobody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Jerry Hughes did not blow up like AB did either. I think Kirby's point is HoF potential guys might have just been good players if they were stuck in bad situations. Just like good player potential guys might have been busts if they were stuck in bad situations. AB on a bad team might have just carved out a solid career. Randy Moss on a bad team might have been a good WR. But they would never be nobodies. Jerry Hughes on a bad team would be a nobody. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Jerry Hughes did not blow up like AB did either. I think Kirby's point is HoF potential guys might have just been good players if they were stuck in bad situations. Just like good player potential guys might have been busts if they were stuck in bad situations. AB on a bad team might have just carved out a solid career. Randy Moss on a bad team might have been a good WR. But they would never be nobodies. Jerry Hughes on a bad team would be a nobody. He kind of proved that point with the Oakland Raiders. Wes Welker would be another example where he was a solid player for Miami, but exploded when he went to New England with five 1,000 plus yard seasons in six years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, jmc12290 said: Apples to oranges. How many career sacks does AB have? I’d say the same amount as Batten, but I checked it to find that Batten has half a sack more than AB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, White Linen said: Happened with Rosen, so ..... I must have missed this. What did he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I don’t care if it goes to voice mail or if he hangs up on you, pick your guy. It worked out OK with Kelly. I say this with perfect hindsight. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Had Antonio Brown been drafted by the Bills, he'd probably be a Patriot by now. So there's that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Hmmm. The Bills have Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing me passes. The Steelers have Ben Roethlisberger. Let me think about this for a while. Decisions, decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Didn’t see this posted anywhere: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/05/antonio_brown_revisits_taking_draft_day_call_from_steelers_instead_of_buffalo_bi.html FWIW, I think that he’s the best player in football. He’s better than Danny Batten. who knew, but that was a horrible draft by NixPixSix Edited May 22, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 He would have been a nobody if we drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dave mcbride Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Exactly Hughes is a bad example because he was playing behind two borderline hall of famers in Freeney and Mathis. Both of those guys were the primary DE starters in the three years Hughes played in Indy. Edited May 22, 2018 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Hughes is a bad example because he was playing behind two borderline hall of famers in Freeney and Mathis. Maybe so but I think that the point is that he was a “good” player in a bad situation. Those guys can fall through the cracks. 1st ballot HOFers are still “good” players at least in a bad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Maybe so but I think that the point is that he was a “good” player in a bad situation. Those guys can fall through the cracks. 1st ballot HOFers are still “good” players at least in a bad situation. I realize that he was good. But he was playing behind players who finished 17th all time in sacks (Freeney) and 19th all time (Mathis). His problem was playing time, not productivity. He had six starts in 2012 (his final season) because Freeney missed two starts and Mathis missed four. That's the only reason he ever got starts. Antonio Brown would have faced no such situation in Buffalo, which I think was part of your point! Edited May 22, 2018 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 18 hours ago, jmc12290 said: Apples to oranges. How many career sacks does AB have? I believe AB is only 0.5 sacks behind Danny in the career sack race. AB may win that one yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 18 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Didn’t see this posted anywhere: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/05/antonio_brown_revisits_taking_draft_day_call_from_steelers_instead_of_buffalo_bi.html FWIW, I think that he’s the best player in football. He’s better than Danny Batten. I'll concede on Batten but I stand by the Moats pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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