26CornerBlitz Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 AFC East Projected Ptarters: Patriots deep; Sam Darnold to Start? Buffalo Bills QB: AJ McCarron RB: LeSean McCoy WR: Kelvin Benjamin WR: Zay Jones WR: Jeremy Kerley TE: Charles Clay LT: Dion Dawkins LG: John Miller C: Russell Bodine RG: Vladimir Ducasse RT: Jordan Mills DE: Jerry Hughes DT: Star Lotulelei DT: Kyle Williams DE: Trent Murphy OLB: Matt Milano MLB: Tremaine Edmunds OLB: Lorenzo Alexander CB: Tre'Davious White CB: Vontae Davis S: Micah Hyde S: Jordan Poyer » McCarron has a strong chance to earn the Week 1 start, because Josh Allenwas the most undercooked quarterback prospect to get taken in the first round. It will be difficult for McCarron to keep the job, however, with that receiver group and an offensive line that lost two starters to surprise retirements. » General manager Brandon Beane indicated after the draft that a veteran or two could be added to one of the least experienced receiver groups in football. Jones had a nightmarish rookie season, and Kerley is a journeyman. This is a squad that Dez Bryant would absolutely upgrade, although the signing would have a Terrell Owens getting a key from the city of Buffalo vibe to it. » Shaq Lawson, the last first-round pick of the Rex Ryan era, figures to back up Murphy. The Billshanded the former Redskins player an aggressive contract, despite the fact that he's coming off a PED suspension and a torn ACL. » Bills coach Sean McDermott spun magic in the secondary last year -- White, Poyer and Hyde all return after excellent seasons. Now, the team is counting on McDermott to turn Davis' career around. There isn't much depth at the slot corner position. » It's hard to completely remake a defense in two offseasons, but Edmunds is the type of linebacker who can change Buffalo's entire profile on Sundays, like Luke Kuechly did for McDermott in Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Seeing the names all spelled out like that in black and white is not encouraging. Have a look at who the QB is, the WR corps, and the OL, in particular. We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4. 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Ryan Groy should be in there as a starter (center or guard). 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 No Groy at center? Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said: Seeing the names all spelled out like that in black and white is not encouraging. Have a look at who the QB is, the WR corps, and the OL, in particular. We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4. Yeah, somehow it looked better in my mind..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: No Groy at center? Interesting I feel like they have Bodine plugged in at center. Groy is super valuable wherever he will line up but I feel they signed Bodine to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: I feel like they have Bodine plugged in at center. Groy is super valuable wherever he will line up but I feel they signed Bodine to start Groy is definitely valuable as a backup because he can play all 5 positions on the line, and I don't know if he plays STs or not but I assume he does. I just remember Groy stepping in for Wood and doing an admirable job, if I were Groy I would want to be the starting center for sure. I think the best 5 should play if that's not Groy then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 The roster is being completely remade and they are only about half-way through that process. The defense appears upgraded and the offense seems to have lost talent overall without finding equivalent or better replacements. I assume the plan next offseason will be to upgrade the offense with free agent acquisition and draft picks. I think our offense will be our weak spot this season (and it may be very weak). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 With the number 1 pick the Buffalo Bills select................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: Groy is definitely valuable as a backup because he can play all 5 positions on the line, and I don't know if he plays STs or not but I assume he does. I just remember Groy stepping in for Wood and doing an admirable job, if I were Groy I would want to be the starting center for sure. I think the best 5 should play if that's not Groy then so be it. I agree but I think Groy should come in with the mentality to be one of the best 5 because Dawkins-Groy-Bodine-Miller/Teller-McDermott/Mills looks pretty good to me if all keep progressing its not super imposing by their names but they are all young hard workers who have experience to build on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: No Groy at center? Interesting I'm going to assume that Gregg is not all that informed about our roster and his cursory check said Groy was a Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: I agree but I think Groy should come in with the mentality to be one of the best 5 because Dawkins-Groy-Bodine-Miller/Teller-McDermott/Mills looks pretty good to me if all keep progressing its not super imposing by their names but they are all young hard workers who have experience to build on I don't much care how imposing their names look as long as they get the job done. Dawkins last year did an admirable job at LT and he's the defacto starter there now. And I know people love to dog on Mills but it looks to me like we're going with him yet again and to be honest, things could be worse, they just need to give him help in certain situations. He's not going to block Von Miller 1 on 1. So lets not ask him to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Seeing the names all spelled out like that in black and white is not encouraging. Have a look at who the QB is, the WR corps, and the OL, in particular. We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4. QB is unknown and WR's need a deep threat badly. I don't hate the OL yet, but that can change in camp and preseason. I think Miller can start but he did not play well with the new OL coach. Bills will not be throwing the ball much this year. Problem is teams will load up to stop the run. AJ McCarron and these WRs will not help at all keep DBs back. Dez Bryant won't change that. Jeremy Maclin a better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I have just a couple differences on OLine. I believe it will go LT: Dawkins LG: Ryan Groy C: Russell Bodine RG: John Miller RT: Marshall Newhouse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I have just a couple differences on OLine. I believe it will go LT: Dawkins LG: Ryan Groy C: Russell Bodine RG: John Miller RT: Marshall Newhouse I think I’m going to puke... Beane.., please sign someone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I think I’m going to puke... Beane.., please sign someone.. I expect Groy and Miller will have good seasons in Dabolls system. Newhouse and Bodine both aren't good but atleast they have starting experience and are not no body's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 lol I forgot about Star and Trent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I expect Groy and Miller will have good seasons in Dabolls system. Newhouse and Bodine both aren't good but atleast they have starting experience and are not no body's Their previous teams fans had parties when Newhouse and Bodine moved on.... Im hoping neither is a starter.. The Bills had the chance to take Crosby in the 4th round but passed.... I’m hoping that means that they think McDermott might be ready at RT... Edited May 7, 2018 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I agree but I think Groy should come in with the mentality to be one of the best 5 because Dawkins-Groy-Bodine-Miller/Teller-McDermott/Mills looks pretty good to me if all keep progressing its not super imposing by their names but they are all young hard workers who have experience to build on Personally, I would like to see Mills cut. The sooner the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Their previous teams fans had parties when Newhouse and Bodine moved on.... Im hoping neither is a starter.. The Bills had th chance to take Crosby in the 4th round but passed.... I’m hoping that means that they think McDermott might be ready at RT... Bodine pretty much has to be starter at this point. With Wood and Incognito starting makes sense to move Groy to Guard and start Bodine as a Center unfortunately. We shall see how it goes... Alabama has always had good linemen even when their talents didn't translate to the NFL. At this point we gotta hope that Dabolls scheme is just that good. We all thought our linemen sucked the year we hired Roman but we turned into one of the best. It's not the individuals... It's how well they play together that makes a great oline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Even if we end up with the #1 pick I will not be praying for the return of Tyrod Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Even if we end up with the #1 pick I will not be praying for the return of Tyrod Taylor. We are already however praying for the departure of fading pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/3/20/17141958/russell-bodine-turned-down-long-term-contract-offer-bengals#comments For anyone unfamiliar with Bodine and his level of suck. I hope someone beats him out for the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Even if we end up with the #1 pick I will not be praying for the return of Tyrod Taylor. That's dumb. Makes zero sense. I would feel much better about Josh Allen if he could sit behind someone like Tyrod for 2 years. Hopefully McCarron can fill that role, we just don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Bodine pretty much has to be starter at this point. With Wood and Incognito starting makes sense to move Groy to Guard and start Bodine as a Center unfortunately. We shall see how it goes... Alabama has always had good linemen even when their talents didn't translate to the NFL. At this point we gotta hope that Dabolls scheme is just that good. We all thought our linemen sucked the year we hired Roman but we turned into one of the best. It's not the individuals... It's how well they play together that makes a great oline Yeah looks like Bodine is starting unless Beane signs someone which I think is a big possibility... Another possibility is Teller at OG but that is probably expecting too much first year... I don’t think Newhouse will start at all and could be an early cut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Commonsense said: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/3/20/17141958/russell-bodine-turned-down-long-term-contract-offer-bengals#comments For anyone unfamiliar with Bodine and his level of suck. I hope someone beats him out for the spot. Weird how many bad starters the Bills have on the OL. Im talking players that have started multiple seasons but are considered terrible. Bodine, Ducasse, Mills, and Newhouse could all be starters this year. Edited May 7, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Those OL and WR.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I think RT is going to be garbage, but the interior of the OL might not be THAT bad. Miller , Teller, Bodine are all young-ish guys who could surprise and Groy played well when he's been put in. It sure would be nice if they kissed and made up with Richie, plugging him in at LG, Bodine / Groy fighting it out for center and Miller / Teller / Ducasse maybe Groy fighting out RG would seem a whole lot better on paper. I think some people need to recognize what this is. Young / unknown guys are going to be given shots to earn PT and roles moving forward at Oline / WR / LB. If some stick, great, if not, we'll go after it hard in FA and the draft next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I dont think he has the OL correct (maybe it is for now, but I do not think that is what it will be once the season starts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Weird how many bad starters the Bills have on the OL. Im talking players that have started multiple seasons but are considered terrible. Not weird to me. Look how many of them weren’t brought in via the draft, then look at the pathetic contracts. Bodine got something like 5 mill for 2 years. The guy they did pay (Wood) and the one they lowballed (Incog) are now retired. If you’re not drafting quality olinemen you are over paying for them in FA. Beane hasn’t had time to draft them and it looks like he refuses to overpay interior guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Groy is underrated. Our O Line looks bad tho. John Miller can be good if we go back to the power blocking scheme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I think RT is going to be garbage, but the interior of the OL might not be THAT bad. Miller , Teller, Bodine are all young-ish guys who could surprise and Groy played well when he's been put in. It sure would be nice if they kissed and made up with Richie, plugging him in at LG, Bodine / Groy fighting it out for center and Miller / Teller / Ducasse maybe Groy fighting out RG would seem a whole lot better on paper. I think some people need to recognize what this is. Young / unknown guys are going to be given shots to earn PT and roles moving forward at Oline / WR / LB. If some stick, great, if not, we'll go after it hard in FA and the draft next year. The OL has a mix of vets and young guys. We hope the young guys can beat out the vets. Dawkins - Teller - Groy - Miller - McDermott is better because of the unknown. 1 minute ago, FearLess Price said: Groy is underrated. Our O Line looks bad tho. John Miller can be good if we go back to the power blocking scheme We are running a power scheme. Edited May 7, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Not weird to me. Look how many of them weren’t brought in via the draft, then look at the pathetic contracts. Bodine got something like 5 mill for 2 years. The guy they did pay (Wood) and the one they lowballed (Incog) are now retired. If you’re not drafting quality olinemen you are over paying for them in FA. Beane hasn’t had time to draft them and it looks like he refuses to overpay interior guys. I agree that they are not spending much on the OL and there is that old adage that you get what you pay for... $5Mil for 2 years is back up Center money so that's why I'm not convinced they have Bodine pencilled in to start....... On another matter about crazy money... I cant get over Seantrel Henderson getting $4M for 1 year...How many games has that dude played the last couple of years? Edited May 7, 2018 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Looks spot on minus the OL. I expect Teller to challenge for the spot at LG. If not Teller, than groy. I thought Miller got a raw deal last year but considering that he couldn’t start over Ducasse, I can’t envision him starting this year. Imo, the best line would be: Dawkins Teller Bodine Groy Bum either way If Teller isn’t ready, then groy at LG and Ducasse/Miller at RG. Not sure if McDermott wants to start both Groy and Bodine though as if they both got hurt, we’d have zero centers. Can’t wait to see what our looks like in 2019. This could get real ugly fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We are already however praying for the departure of fading pain He keeps promising, but the pain never actually fades away. 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: Looks spot on minus the OL. I expect Teller to challenge for the spot at LG. If not Teller, than groy. I thought Miller got a raw deal last year but considering that he couldn’t start over Ducasse, I can’t envision him starting this year. Imo, the best line would be: Dawkins Teller Bodine Groy Bum either way If Teller isn’t ready, then groy at LG and Ducasse/Miller at RG. Not sure if McDermott wants to start both Groy and Bodine though as if they both got hurt, we’d have zero centers. Can’t wait to see what our looks like in 2019. This could get real ugly fast For no particular rational reason, I am hoping McDermott is a good surprise at RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: He keeps promising, but the pain never actually fades away. For no particular rational reason, I am hoping McDermott is a good surprise at RT. I think I know the particular reason. The other 2 guys are bums. Big boy project that was drafted by the Pats. I also think he a chance to win the job. But he’d probably be a bum too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: Looks spot on minus the OL. I expect Teller to challenge for the spot at LG. If not Teller, than groy. I thought Miller got a raw deal last year but considering that he couldn’t start over Ducasse, I can’t envision him starting this year. Imo, the best line would be: Dawkins Teller Bodine Groy Bum either waya If Teller isn’t ready, then groy at LG and Ducasse/Miller at RG. Not sure if McDermott wants to start both Groy and Bodine though as if they both got hurt, we’d have zero centers. Can’t wait to see what our looks like in 2019. This could get real ugly fast I think this is close to how it will shake out. I wish I could find the link but apparently Newhouse played hurt most of last year & never used that as an excuse---will regarded by his team mates. Might be better than fans think. Also we'll probably add another guy in free agency or after cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: Seeing the names all spelled out like that in black and white is not encouraging. Have a look at who the QB is, the WR corps, and the OL, in particular. We are going to be praying for the return of Tyrod by Week 4. Ha ha ha thanks for the laugh about Praying for the return of Tyrod. THAT ISNT GONNA HAPPEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Hopefully, the Ravens release Austin Howard and we can grab him. They drafted Orlando Brown Jr, signed James Hurst to a long-term contract and still have Howard. Stanley is the starter on the left side. Another guy to look out for the Ravens releasing is Breshad Perriman. Hasn't been able to put it all together in Baltimore. Wouldn't mind taking a flier if he gets cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Looks about right to me except for C. Start Groy over Bodine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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