D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) Would anyone really miss the Buffalo News Sports Department if it completely went away? NO! of course not. They are a dinosaur that is constantly looking for attention anyway, anyhow. They add NOTHING! Edited May 7, 2018 by horned dogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: You have to admit...the Twitter account is funny as hell. I thoroughly enjoyed the butthurt from Harrington. Is he absolutely positive that the dog didn't read his opinions, determine they were crap, and tweet about how bad they were? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 IF the Buffalo News was so respected nationally, why is every Bills story broken by a national reporter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: Unlike, say, using the word "meh." Technically all the words we use in the English language are cliches ? . I’m just tired of the trendiness of being thin skinned. Why should they care what some news reporter in Buffalo has to say? Unfortunately, overly caring what everyone has to say is in vogue. I’m not criticizing the Pegula family, but rather noticing a trend in society as a whole that I don’t understand. Harrington’s response is equally unproductive and unnecessary. Edited May 7, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Remember when MTV played music videos and ESPN was all about sports news, scores and highlights. I blame Ron Burgundy he set the tone and it has been all down hill from there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, dpberr said: "Journalism is the activity of gathering, assessing, creating, and presenting news and information." https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/journalism-essentials/what-is-journalism/ I'd argue that the Buffalo News no longer employs journalists, just the same run of the mill talking heads generating opinion that have replaced all the television news. Fun question: When is the last time you read an article from either of these two gentleman that was - from start to finish - news without opinion folded into it? Again, it gets to my point about pay walls. You're not paying for news. You're paying for opinion. Two different products. “So much for Objective Journalism. Don't bother to look for it here--not under any byline of mine; or anyone else I can think of. With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms.” - Hunter S. Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Lurker said: IMO, they're just riffing on the negative attitude by many on the Allen pick, Brandon exit and Sabres season that have been percolating the last month or so. The sports department (and BN in general) are "finger in the wind" pros feeding into what sells in Buffalo... I just can not fathom that their finger in the wind journalism is making making them money. I know more people who stopped reading them for this then have joined on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Technically all the words we use in the English language are cliches ? . I’m just tired of the trendiness of being thin skinned. Why should they care what some news reporter in Buffalo has to say? Unfortunately, overly caring what everyone has to say is in vogue. I’m not criticizing the Pegula family, but rather noticing a trend in society as a whole that I don’t understand. Harrington’s response is equally unproductive and unnecessary. They care because they have a multibillion dollar business and are trying to bring Buffalo a winner. The Buffalo News has a poor relationship with the Bills, and seems to think that continuing it is the way to go. The negativism spewed by some over there goes well beyond objective journalism. They get no leaks and break nothing anymore due to a lack of trust from the team. Has nothing to do with being thin-skinned, has everything to do with the poor PR driven by the BN, and towards the organization. If you want something in vogue its the dinosaurs of print journalism not coming to grips with the reality of the world. Taking pot shots at the new ownership group is piss poor way to have a relationship with the team. Edited May 7, 2018 by horned dogs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, ddaryl said: BN is doing there typical round of "Buffalo Sports, Woe is me" at this point I can't even take anything they say sports wise serioulsy so I do not This. The drought is over. Mr Barnett, it’s time to bring in some writers that aren’t so jaded by the previous 17 years. It has clearly had an impact on their view of the franchise and it shows in their writing daily. I have no problem paying $10-$20 a month to support the BN. I do have a problem supporting the garbage that the majority of your writers spew. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: The dog has a Twitter? Yes but I don’t believe that it’s actually the dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, The_Dude said: Who the hell cares what rich kids post on Twitter? What does their status as "rich kids" have to do with anything? Please tell me the lack of net worth that makes you someone we should all 'care' about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, JoeF said: PTR -- I heard he tweeted something to the effect that the rest of the NHL was laughing at Kim's appointment as President of the Bills and Sabres and then quickly deleted that. Is that correct? That is correct. Also a few years back Bucky Gleason tweeted that Kim should stick with picking drapes instead of attending team business meetings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Sidney Pegula is one good boy Great tweet, made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, horned dogs said: They care because they have a multibillion dollar business and are trying to bring Buffalo a winner. The Buffalo News has a poor relationship with the Bills, and seems to think that continuing it is the way to go. The negativism spewed by some over there goes well beyond objective journalism. They get no leaks and break nothing anymore due to a lack of trust from the team. Has nothing to do with being thin-skinned, has everything to do with the poor PR driven by the BN, and towards the organization. If you want something in vogue its the dinosaurs of print journalism not coming to grips with the reality of the world. Taking pot shots at the new ownership group is piss poor way to have a relationship with the team. The Pegula’s PR relationship with the fans is in fine shape as evidenced by the responses on this topic. I highly doubt that they are concerned about any BN writer hurting them. The BN may very well have a poor relationship with ownership, but ownership gets to choose how much access they have to the team. Journalists can criticize the Pegula’s at their own risk. Everything that you stated is one hundred percent correct. I’m just an old man at heart who doesn’t ever understand the point of Twitter insults/battles. Edited May 7, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: Where? And if you say Washington post or New York Times, I’m going to laugh at you. Washington post or New York Times. (Sorry, I couldn't pass it up) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: I just can not fathom that their finger in the wind journalism is making making them money. I know more people who stopped reading them for this then have joined on. Come on. This is Buffalo we're talking about. There are whole generations of WNY's that would rather b**** about things than do anything else in the world. Negativity sells in this town... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: Where? And if you say Washington post or New York Times, I’m going to laugh at you. You have to figure that out on your own. What do you watch? Fox or Facebook? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Come on. This is Buffalo we're talking about. There are whole generations of WNY's that would rather b**** about things than do anything else in the world. Negativity sells in this town... I moved away in 97, but when I come back to visit I really feel the city is changing directions for the better, you would think that would show up in peoples overall attitudes. Negativity sells everywhere. I stopped watching all news, I could not tell you what is happening in the world or in politics. I gave up because of what you are saying.. TOO NEGATIVE. Negativity really brings out the idiocy of humanity. I have chosen willful ignorance in that regards. BUT Sports. Our one place ot escape the above mentioned.. I really have to meet the masses that pay for a extra dose of suck-a-tude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 The best part to me is Harrington replied. Was it that big a deal to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lofton80 said: The best part to me is Harrington replied. Was it that big a deal to him? He learned that from his Zen master, Timmy Graham... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, The_Dude said: Who the hell cares what rich kids post on Twitter? I agree. I've heard the kids are dbags. However, I don't really hold that against them. I think it's probably impossible to grow up as the kids of billionaires and not be dbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 TBN will have no one but themselves to blame when they are forced to fire writers because of declining readership. No one is asking for sunshine and rainbows, but their constant nattering about the Pegulas in columns like some sort of a scorned ex has been tacitly ratified by the higher-ups by continuing to employ these goofs . The act is old and tired and I'm not reading their columns anymore, I know many of you already avoid their opinion stuff, I'd encourage the rest of you not to give them clicks. We can complain about the stupidity in Sully's columns but them we create threads linking to them. The only way to not have to complain about the bile they write is to stop giving them clicks and money, maybe that will force a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lofton80 said: The best part to me is Harrington replied. Was it that big a deal to him? Could you imagine if he can troll them into a response? He's a joke, that's all he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: I agree. I've heard the kids are dbags. However, I don't really hold that against them. I think it's probably impossible to grow up as the kids of billionaires and not be dbags. LOL. Whenever I see posters calling someone else a dbag, I immediately think of this... https://www.google.com/search?q=mirror&safe=active&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjgYihlfTaAhVLMt8KHfDnDG8Q_AUICygC&biw=1280&bih=931&dpr=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I didn't read the story they are referring to but knowing Sullivan and Harrington, I can pretty much imagine what it is. The same old same old they always write. https://twitter.com/sidneypegula/status/992953923702067200?s=20 Are you kidding me; you must be new to this board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 4 hours ago, billybob71 said: Newspapers? They still have them things? Yeah. For only a teeny weeny subscribtion fee on top of all the other things tugging at you too can feel special and read garbage that nobody else is writing for free. Like sticking to just the free journalistic garbage is not enough to keep you well informed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 hours ago, The_Dude said: Who the hell cares what rich kids post on Twitter? Who cares about what the children (or dog) of the team owners say about a reporter who covers that team? *raises hand* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, nedboy7 said: You have to figure that out on your own. What do you watch? Fox or Facebook? Neither. I like the economist, sometimes the bbc. But I don’t trust any media outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Sidney Pegula is one good boy Great tweet, made me laugh. They're all good boys, teddy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 What did Harrington say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said: I agree. I've heard the kids are dbags. However, I don't really hold that against them. I think it's probably impossible to grow up as the kids of billionaires and not be dbags. Oh come on! Prejudiced much? Why exactly are wealthy people bound to be D Bags? Please let me know the amount of wealth that you find acceptable in order to retain your soul. I’m dying to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 hours ago, jmc12290 said: Pegula kids about to get a talking to and subsequent tweet deletion. With all due respect, F the Pegula kids and anything they have to tweet about pretty much anything. Not really interested. 38 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Neither. I like the economist, sometimes the bbc. But I don’t trust any media outlets. They're all owned by the same 5 or 6 parent entities anyway, and all have exactly the same agenda, regardless of so-called "left" or "right" leanings. I'll leave it there as we aren't supposed to discuss politics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Lofton80 said: The best part to me is Harrington replied. Was it that big a deal to him? He replied so others would reply, so others would reply, so others would reply, and on and on and on and on... Here's the thing... professional sports teams always have a few primary bodies of fans: those who just want to enjoy the team; those who love to love the team for the sake of hometown spirit; and those who love to hate the team for the sake of always wanting to point out the time they were right. Writers like Hamilton and Sullivan and Graham have, quite possibly, the easiest jobs in the world because all they have to do write something that appeals to one of those three groups because, by default, whatever they write will be challenged by the other two groups. Better yet, sometimes they hit the trifecta and piss off all three groups with one stupid column. It's literally the laziest job you can get and still be famous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Woodman19 said: Dog or not, the only thing they have to say is you are cut off from the locker room and stadium and your career is done Mr.Harrington. Let me know how an attempt at this would work out. The Professional Hockey Writers Association(or whatever sport is in question) would step in and squash any attempts at a ban very quickly. It would not end well for the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: Neither. I like the economist, sometimes the bbc. But I don’t trust any media outlets. Not bad. Vice I find to be rather straight forward news. I read BBC the most But they have a slant too. Yeah almost everyone has an agenda. It’s best to read both sides and laugh. No one is writing about how corporate America rules it all. The two parties are a puppet show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 hours ago, nedboy7 said: There are still solid independent news sources. Of course you need to read several that oppose each other so you can sniff out the BS Sorry, but news is not dependent upon the reporter's political views. News is the simple facts of a story: what happened, who was involved, when it happened, and where it happened. Example: Joe's house in Timbuktu burned down on Tuesday or the President addressed Congress on the economy on Friday. Whether someone subscribes to one particular political creed or another doesn't change the facts. If it does, then that "reporter" isn't reporting news at all but spreading propaganda. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Lofton80 said: The best part to me is Harrington replied. Was it that big a deal to him? His buttons are easily pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, SoTier said: Sorry, but news is not dependent upon the reporter's political views. News is the simple facts of a story: what happened, who was involved, when it happened, and where it happened. Example: Joe's house in Timbuktu burned down on Tuesday or the President addressed Congress on the economy on Friday. Whether someone subscribes to one particular political creed or another doesn't change the facts. If it does, then that "reporter" isn't reporting news at all but spreading propaganda. You must not have heard the term alternative facts. Coming from the WH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Good for the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) Its not like she was hiding behind the dog really...its last name is still pegula so we know it was someone in the family. I do think Harrington calling her out saying shes pathetic was weak. You give negative opinions all the time dont get butt hurt when someone gives their opinion on you. Edited May 7, 2018 by Skins Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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