atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Tyrod's friend said: I'm sorry ... it is the absolute height of stupidity to trade 2 #2s for a guy nobody in their right mind wanted. Certainly not at 7. Hey when to talk to Tyrod tell him thanks for the third rounder that helped the Bills get Edmunds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Mopreme said: FYI. Allen has a hot girlfriend. I now like the pick even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Not a fan of the pick, but I’ll root for him not to **** the bed too badly. That’s all I’ve got for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, No Cease Fires said: I can think of Matthew Stafford and like nobody else. Brett Favre 54% passer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: S0 in reality what did Allen really cost us to get this year? 1st Glenn Watkins 2nd More? Meh, no great loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said: Did any of the big 4 say they didn’t want to be in buffalo? No, it’s just this weird low self esteem Bills fans have. There was a quote yesterday from Rosen saying he was excited to be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MURPHD6 said: This is why we can't have nice things. Silly character concerns. Jim Kelly was a even bigger prick. What is the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I’m just happy the bills are committed to a QB and have finally addressed the position. If they are wrong on him, keep trying until you get it right This ^^^^^ at least we didn't give up much like many were predicting ( me included) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Oh, I see. You're upset because you got fired from Russ Brandon's advanced analytics department. Have any high level business meetings scheduled for tomorrow? 1.) Decision making: Josh Allen scored a 37 on the wonderlic, light-years ahead of Rosen, Mayfield and Darnold. 2.) Accuracy: Had a poor supporting cast, will benefit from having a stronger unit around him along with design plays. Set the crack pipe down, aren't clairvoyant? OK? You don't know what the future brings, PERIOD. What supporting cast do you see here? Maybe you're the one who should give up the crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, KzooMike said: No, I do not “trust the process” on this pick. Beane could be a masterful GM in every area, that doesn’t mean crap regarding his ability to land a good QB. If you read his excerpt on what he likes in a QB from last year...big, strong arm, durable. Basically Cam Newton 2.0. Then you look at the comments by ESPN, Terry fell in love with Allen. So Allen matched what Beane likes based on what? Cam? A freak show athlete on all levels. Based on when every NFL GM likes? Yet with this kid they didn’t like it enough to take him.... You didn’t win this time Beane. You outsmarted yourself aided with ownership which made it all easy. Maybe even forgiveable when he busts. Did you watch his feet on any of the film? Who is the QB guru that will keep him from bailing in the pocket when he has a pocket? I hope we lock this thread and look back at it in three years and myself and many others have to eat it. I don’t see it happening. If Rosen pans out and Allen doesn’t it should cost Beane his job. So many guys saying Rosen has it and Allen doesn’t. You guys are good I will give you that!!! Most experts have a hard enough time getting one right yet you guys know both of em already! Let’s get some of you in the war room next year (sorry Irv) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, NickelCity said: You like him, and more power to you, but it seems like you're suggesting people shouldn't be allowed to express a snap judgement on draft night. That's lunacy. I'm devastated we picked Allen over Rosen, and I've made it known. Doesn't mean I'm not rooting for Allen on the deepest possible level. That's fine but what's NOT OK is saying someone is a BUST after 0 NFL snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Mike in Syracuse said: Do you have any kind of a guarantee that Darnold will be great? Nope..... I don’t. But of all the top 4, he is the biggest risk to me. For it to fall like it did and trade up for him, especially giving up two 2nd round picks... This was one of my two biggest disappointment outcomes. I’m deflated and pissed. I’ll be happy to be wrong, but I doubt I am 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KzooMike said: No, I do not “trust the process” on this pick. Beane could be a masterful GM in every area, that doesn’t mean crap regarding his ability to land a good QB. If you read his excerpt on what he likes in a QB from last year...big, strong arm, durable. Basically Cam Newton 2.0. Then you look at the comments by ESPN, Terry fell in love with Allen. So Allen matched what Beane likes based on what? Cam? A freak show athlete on all levels. Based on when every NFL GM likes? Yet with this kid they didn’t like it enough to take him.... You didn’t win this time Beane. You outsmarted yourself aided with ownership which made it all easy. Maybe even forgiveable when he busts. Did you watch his feet on any of the film? Who is the QB guru that will keep him from bailing in the pocket when he has a pocket? I hope we lock this thread and look back at it in three years and myself and many others have to eat it. I don’t see it happening. If Rosen pans out and Allen doesn’t it should cost Beane his job. I liked Rosen better too. But the AZ Cardinals didn't unless Rapoport was lying. That should tell us both something. " Rapoport said AZ was interested to trade up and get Allen". That's kind of a game/set/match Edited April 27, 2018 by 34-78-83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Tatonka68 said: Brett Favre 54% passer You’re comparing a guy’s completion % from 25 years ago? That’s not valid in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Real McCoy said: Jim Kelly was a even bigger prick. What is the point? The point is that we passed on Rosen because of character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Agreed it’s stupid to say something one way or the other. I do think you should pay attention to evidence. And IMO, has the most evidence to not be successful as any top 10 qb since Blaine Gabbert. Also, for a guy with a cannon, he’d probably like Sammy to throw to. Oh well. He was my least favorite out of the 4. But this FO has done a lot of “right” so far. Why stop trusting them now? Do people think that beane doesn’t know his job is probably tied to this? I’m sure he freaking knows. I totally understand not agreeing with the pick but people on here saying they know he’s gonna bust and that this will be what sinks the ship honestly are just moronic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: Oh, I see. You're upset because you got fired from Russ Brandon's advanced analytics department. Have any high level business meetings scheduled for tomorrow? 1.) Decision making: Josh Allen scored a 37 on the wonderlic, light-years ahead of Rosen, Mayfield and Darnold. 2.) Accuracy: Had a poor supporting cast, will benefit from having a stronger unit around him along with design plays. Set the crack pipe down, aren't clairvoyant? OK? You don't know what the future brings, PERIOD. 1. Being smart means absolutely nothing when it comes to reading a defense or knowing where to go with the ball. His game film shows a guy who struggles enormously when pressured, and who often fails to move past his first progression. 2. His bad supporting cast played bad defenses. He had the lowest drop rate of all the QBs in the draft. Guys like Josh Allen never succeed in the modern NFL. Just ask Jake Locker, EJ Manuel, Kyle Boller, Blaine Gabbert, Josh Freeman or Akili Smith. We just drafted a less accurate version of Blake Bortles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) yeah, F this kid! I guess we see why the Bills didn't draft him... I've watched some Rosen interviews since he was drafted and he is, IMO, totally coming off like a petty little spoiled brat. I wasn't worried about his personality issues, but I may have been wrong on that. This kid is going to be a controversial quote machine... lol Edit - He didn't actually say this. My bad. I seen someone else in this thread post that quote, so I searched for it and seen this. Didn't realize it was just a joke. I apologize. I don't really use Twitter, so... Edited April 27, 2018 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think Bills fans have seen enough project QBs over the past 20 years come in and absolutely suck. They wanted the opposite. They got Allen. Another project QB who needs a lot of work. Nobody wants him to fail. A lot here expect him to. That's all. Josh Rosen has multiple concussions and a neck injury, we can no assurance that he'll last a single season in the NFL. It's all a giant crap shoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MURPHD6 said: The point is that we passed on Rosen because of character. You're making stuff up. Source that Rosen quote. You can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: What supporting cast do you see here? Maybe you're the one who should give up the crack. Guess what? He has more here than he did in college which is a reflection of how poor his team was. How many players do you think will get drafted from Wyoming? Maybe you should go take a nap and sleep off the alcohol you had tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Rosen is a Cardinal, get over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: I don’t. But of all the top 4, he is the biggest risk to me. For it to fall like it did and trade up for him, especially giving up two 2nd round picks... This was one of my two biggest disappointment outcomes. I’m deflated and pissed. I’ll be happy to be wrong, but I doubt I am Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: yeah, F this kid! I guess we see why the Bills didn't draft him... I've watched some Rosen interviews since he was drafted and he is, IMO, totally coming off like a petty little spoiled brat. I wasn't worried about his personality issues, but I may have been wrong on that. This kid is going to be a controversial quote machine... lol It’s a joke account, Rosen didn’t say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richstadiumowner Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Good call, nobody knows how the top 5 qbs are going to shake out but not trying to draft a qb because EJ Manuel is kind of nuts. Also like the Tremaine Edmunds pick GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Cease Fires Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: yeah, F this kid! I guess we see why the Bills didn't draft him... I've watched some Rosen interviews since he was drafted and he is, IMO, totally coming off like a petty little spoiled brat. I wasn't worried about his personality issues, but I may have been wrong on that. This kid is going to be a controversial quote machine... lol 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: yeah, F this kid! I guess we see why the Bills didn't draft him... I've watched some Rosen interviews since he was drafted and he is, IMO, totally coming off like a petty little spoiled brat. I wasn't worried about his personality issues, but I may have been wrong on that. This kid is going to be a controversial quote machine... lol You do realize that's a joke, right? And Rosen never said it? "NOTSportsCenter" not a big enough clue for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Virginian Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 You're getting a great guy who's totally focused on helping his team win. I predict a lot of the haters on here will come around. Besides, it was predestined. Witness the Wyoming State Flag: 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: yeah, F this kid! I guess we see why the Bills didn't draft him... I've watched some Rosen interviews since he was drafted and he is, IMO, totally coming off like a petty little spoiled brat. I wasn't worried about his personality issues, but I may have been wrong on that. This kid is going to be a controversial quote machine... lol You realize that's a parody account or are you so simple you think that's reputable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: 1. Being smart means absolutely nothing when it comes to reading a defense or knowing where to go with the ball. His game film shows a guy who struggles enormously when pressured, and who often fails to move past his first progression. 2. His bad supporting cast played bad defenses. He had the lowest drop rate of all the QBs in the draft. Guys like Josh Allen never succeed in the modern NFL. Just ask Jake Locker, EJ Manuel, Kyle Boller, Blaine Gabbert, Josh Freeman or Akili Smith. We just drafted a less accurate version of Blake Bortles. I know your type, I hate the know it all nerd types. You cannot predict the future and you're not as smart as you think. Also, if you think it's OK to call a player a bust before he even played 1 game, morally you are a sleezeball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: This is why we can't have nice things. Silly character concerns. I have nice things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Tell me again which coaches we have that have done great things with QB's and passing games. That Tua kid looked pretty good in the National Championship in January no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Bye-bye baby Rosen. What a ****, tweeted he would love to be part of Bills - now he dodged them? Hello Allen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: The point is that we passed on Rosen because of character. I doubt it, more like fragile and plays like crap when the play breaks down and he has to improvise , which is essential in the NFL. Can't have perfect pockets all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I now like the pick even more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Anyone know if Allen is known for work ethic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: You realize that's a parody account or are you so simple you think that's reputable? People will ignore reality to support their biases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: The point is that we passed on Rosen because of character. How do you know that? Maybe it was the concussion history? The general injury history? Or the slighter frame? Maybe it was related to personality and/or work ethic? I’m not saying it’s not true, just that none of us know what exactly weighed into the decision. And we will never know. Look, I wanted Rosen, but we don’t know how the decision was made. Ive never personally met either of them. Have you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: I know your type, I hate the know it all nerd types. You cannot predict the future and you're not as smart as you think. Also, if you think it's OK to call a player a bust before he even played 1 game, morally you are a sleezeball. Whoa. "Morally a sleezeball" for calling a football player a bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: He was my least favorite out of the 4. But this FO has done a lot of “right” so far. Why stop trusting them now? Do people think that beane doesn’t know his job is probably tied to this? I’m sure he freaking knows. I totally understand not agreeing with the pick but people on here saying they know he’s gonna bust and that this will be what sinks the ship honestly are just moronic. Yeah, I’m not willing to bury him but it’s super worrisome. And I’m in the minority but I think besides secondary and the Tyrod trade, I think it’s a little overblown what the new front office has done. We are lacking talent big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Cease Fires Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Bye-bye baby Rosen. What a ****, tweeted he would love to be part of Bills - now he dodged them? Hello Allen! That quote is fake. But feel free to believe it if it makes you feel better about our crappy draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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