NoSaint Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, PolishDave said: He won't start for at least another year. They will have to rebuild the offensive line in the meantime somehow. I cannot imagine mccarron starting 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Just should have stayed put or traded down to get Jackson or Rudolph. Can't even be excited about tomorrow's draft day with only two picks now. Hope he is more Matthew Stafford than Jake Locker but we will see. Edited April 27, 2018 by Juror#8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, billspro said: Allen and Mahommes are the same type of prospect. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Mahomes was at least good in college. But the main thing for me is trust Andy Reid a million times more than anyone on the Bills at identity qb talent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Maine-iac said: Somebody remind me again if Brady is strong armed or accurate? At least he is a big guy. With no OL left he'll take a pounding. He'll be fine. AJ will be the one taking the pounding this year, while we let Allen develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Yes, yes, yes, yes. I've been crucified for my love of Allen but I'm not worried, highest ceiling of any QB in the draft. His upside = Ben Roethlisberger 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 45 minutes ago, Mopreme said: Cardinals only gave up 3rd and 5th round picks to move up. Beene did a bad job giving up 2 2nd round picks. Who cares about a 7th round pick. Cardinals only gave up 3rd and 5th round picks to move up. Beene did a bad job giving up 2 2nd round picks. Who cares about a 7th round pick. I have no idea how they gave up two second rounds. One would have got the job done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: Yes, yes, yes, yes. I've been crucified for my love of Allen but I'm not worried, highest ceiling of any QB in the draft. His upside = Ben Roethlisberger And his downside is Kyle Boller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: I cannot imagine mccarron starting 16 Peterman gonna come out gunnin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: Just trying to understand. How do they expect to teach this guy accuracy.... something you can't teach? Not necessarily true. His footwork/base needs work. If he can improve that and deliver from a consistently stable base we should see an improvement in his accuracy as well. He’s a project though, no doubt about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, billspro said: I have no idea how they gave up two second rounds. One would have got the job done. Obviously not 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Cease Fires Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Josh Allen is a garbage pick. Maybe there would be hope if we had a seasoned vet for him to watch and learn from for a season, but nope, we've got AJ Mccarron! Well played, McBeane! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, MDH said: I’m going to blame Beane for my hangover tomorrow. I switched from beer to whiskey after the Allen pick. I think we all started drinking heavily after that pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: Well. It's a fact that Rosen or Allen would be gone, since AZ traded up and took Rosen. Miami was very high on a QB as well, which is why AZ leapfrogged them. So while nobody knows for sure, your assumption that Allen would still have been available @ #12 is much less plausible than my scenario. Rapoport said AZ was interested to trade up and get allen. If he turns out to be a franchise guy for the next 15 years, no one is going to remember that the bills only traded 2 second round picks to get him. No sense getting cute with it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This is reasonable. but right now, if you had to bet your house on it, would you bet on Allen being a star or a bust? It’s so hard to predict college qbs transitioning to the pros but a low completion % is very troubling. And it was in a low level conference. I think they fell in love with his size and arm and this BS that it snows every day in Buffalo. I hate this pick but I’m rooting to be wrong. But there’s so much evidence that he is going to struggle to make it. His ceiling seems to be Joe Flacco. Baker was my guy, but honestly Allen had by far the best offseason of any of the prospects. Beane has my complete trust, so if they felt he was the guy, I will trust that more than anything. So I am excited...all these guys had risk. But I wouldn't bet my house on any QB in this draft. Darnold made a ton of stupid decisions this year, as much as people were enamored with him, the kid left you gasping every week at something stupid he did. I mean there is no lock...to me, Baker was the safest pick. So, I am behind it even though Allen wasn't my first choice either. But I also didn't invest thousand of hours into researching these kids, so I will trust Beane who so far has 100% earned my trust with his wizardry since becoming the Bills GM. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, billsfan11 said: Rapoport said AZ was interested to trade up and get allen. If he turns out to be a franchise guy for the next 15 years, no one is going to remember that the bills only traded 2 second round picks to get him. No sense getting cute with it Agreed. I'm not THRILLED with Allen, and I'm a little annoyed we gave up TWO second rounders, meanwhile AZ only gave up a 3rd and 5th to move up and get Rosen... My response was to H20 who said "allen would have been available at #12" which I was asserting that he most certainly would not have been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Mr. ChumChums said: He'll be fine. AJ will be the one taking the pounding this year, while we let Allen develop. Who's developing Allen? Daboll with his TE skills and 17ppg OC history or McDermott who's a DC by trade? I don't even hate the Allen pick so much as I don't think we have the OL, WR's, or coaching staff to develop anyone. If we had any real offensive minds we would have been able to score with the players we had last year like Lynn and Roman were able to do. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, billspro said: I have no idea how they gave up two second rounds. One would have got the job done. Yep. They overpaid by the equivalent of an extra 2nd according to the trade value chart... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Rapoport said AZ was interested to trade up and get allen. If he turns out to be a franchise guy for the next 15 years, no one is going to remember that the bills only traded 2 second round picks to get him. No sense getting cute with it Yeah, I don’t really care about the trade up. I just think we selected the wrong Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, OJABBA said: You're "confused" about Rosen being a prick? Josh Rosen, on getting drafted by the Cardinals: “I dodged getting drafted by the Browns, Jets, AND Bills. I’m the luckiest man on earth.” He is, and will continue too be an !@#$. where'd you see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: This is basically an excuse. They had all the ammunition needed to and refused. They went with Allen. If he fails they'll be gone. what is an excuse? H20 said he would have been available at #12. I said he wouldn't have been due to AZ and MIA being ahead of #12. I'm not sure what I was making an excuse about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 So Peterman ends up getting traded for a bag of hammers then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLXbillsmafia Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) At least we didn't trade up to #2 or #4 and give away next year's 1st round (likely) top 5 pick. And at least the Dolphins or Patriots didn't end up with Rosen. These are the only positives I see tonight. We drafted Jake Locker, and not only that, unlike when we picked EJ, we actually had the opportunity to draft an elite QB prospect. Edited April 27, 2018 by FLXbillsmafia 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Yeah, I don’t really care about the trade up. I just think we selected the wrong Josh. Maybe. Only time well tell. I will trust Beanes decision over mine though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, PolishDave said: So Peterman ends up getting traded for a bag of hammers then? We'd be smart to take that trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Yes, yes, yes, yes. I've been crucified for my love of Allen but I'm not worried, highest ceiling of any QB in the draft. His upside = Ben Roethlisberger His upside is probably higher than that, he also has the most downside. I will talk myself into it. I like his personality and talent. I'm going to rewatch film on him this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLee Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I could feel this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Cease Fires Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rockinon said: where'd you see this? It's NOTSportsCenter, a joke twitter account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 So bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Wrong Josh Prove me wrong on the field. Edited April 27, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Rosen/Edmunds would have been a first round made in heaven. Troy Aikman said Rosen is the most polished passer he has ever seen and was worthy of #1 overall. He also said that in all his years playing and watching the game he has never seen a QB with Allen's issues succeed. I don't hate Allen but I have a hard time understanding why they would pass on Rosen. Seeing him sitting there looked like a repeat of Aaron Rodgers on draft day. Kudos to the Cards. They ain't so stupid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyBoy1212 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I might be the the only one, but I would not have been able to see that face(Rosen) on a weekly basis. Dude looks like an accountant, not a football player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The Bills made the pick.............. get behind it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Those are some very mature quotes right there. I have to trust McBeane on this pick. There were questions around each one of the top 4, so lets not go around pretending that Rosen was a guaranteed lock for a HOF career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Wrong Josh Prove me wrong on the field. Maybe stop complaining until then when he gets a chance to, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, starrymessenger said: Rosen/Edmunds would have been a first round made in heaven. Troy Aikman said Rosen is the most polished passer he has ever seen and was worthy of #1 overall. He also said that in all his years playing and watching the game he has never seen a QB with Allen's issues succeed. I don't hate Allen but I have a hard time understanding why they would pass on Rosen. Seeing him sitting there looked like a repeat of Aaron Rodgers on draft day. Kudos to the Cards. They ain't so stupid. Aikman was a UCLA QB also. A little biased perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, LEBills said: Maybe stop complaining until then when he gets a chance to, huh? Can you read???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Baker was my guy, but honestly Allen had by far the best offseason of any of the prospects. Beane has my complete trust, so if they felt he was the guy, I will trust that more than anything. So I am excited...all these guys had risk. But I wouldn't bet my house on any QB in this draft. Darnold made a ton of stupid decisions this year, as much as people were enamored with him, the kid left you gasping every week at something stupid he did. I mean there is no lock...to me, Baker was the safest pick. So, I am behind it even though Allen wasn't my first choice either. But I also didn't invest thousand of hours into researching these kids, so I will trust Beane who so far has 100% earned my trust with his wizardry since becoming the Bills GM. See I think Beane gets way too much benefit of the doubt because we lucked into the playoffs. Besides our secondary and o line, our talent level sucked last year. And getting better in the offseason? Come on man, who cares about what he does in shorts? All I heard was excuses why Allen isn’t better. The Bills aren’t a franchise that is known for developing qb. Rosen is a guy who didn’t need much development. Allen is another guy in the mold of JP and EJ. I defended those guys even though we a ton of similar questions about them. And they got proven right. the thing that sucks is I was so pumped for this night & it was happy perfect. So it’s hard to try to find the positives. I only hope that if Allen becomes a star, we can bump this thread and laugh at it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Welcome Josh Allen Great pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I wonder if another draft will go by before he sees the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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