26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 http://www.thehuddlereport.com/mock.scores.shtml 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, kdiggz said: here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ Yes please with sugar on top. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Will this year’s draft have more trades then we can remember? 3 minutes ago, kdiggz said: here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ So Denver would pass on Rosen and take a Guard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Putin said: Will this year’s draft have more trades then we can remember? So Denver would pass on Rosen and take a Guard ? Haha maybe he won't be the top guy this year who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Putin said: Will this year’s draft have more trades then we can remember? So Denver would pass on Rosen and take a Guard ? Denver isn’t taking a QB at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, kdiggz said: here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ Here's his record on what QBs from 2000-2015 he predicted would bust or not: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-your-1st-round-qb-is-likely-to-be-a-bust/ Here’s the full list of quarterbacks drafted in the first round from 2000-2015 to give an overview of this data and who I determined to be a bust. Year Player School Conf. Bust? 2015 Jameis Winston Florida St. ACC NO 2015 Marcus Mariota Oregon PAC 12 NO 2015 Johnny Manziel Texas A&M SEC YES 2014 Blake Bortles UCF AAC NO 2014 Teddy Bridgewater Louisville ACC YES 2013 EJ Manuel Florida St. ACC YES 2012 Robert Griffin III Baylor BIG 12 YES 2012 Brandon Weeden Oklahoma St. BIG 12 YES 2012 Andrew Luck Stanford PAC 12 NO 2012 Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M SEC NO 2011 Christian Ponder Florida St. ACC YES 2011 Blaine Gabbert Missouri BIG 12 YES 2011 Jake Locker Washington PAC 12 YES 2011 Cam Newton Auburn SEC NO 2010 Sam Bradford Oklahoma BIG 12 NO 2010 Tim Tebow Florida SEC YES 2009 Josh Freeman Kansas State BIG 12 YES 2009 Mark Sanchez USC PAC 12 YES 2009 Matthew Stafford Georgia SEC NO 2008 Matt Ryan Boston College ACC NO 2008 Joe Flacco Delaware FCS NO 2007 Brady Quinn Notre Dame IND YES 2007 JaMarcus Russell LSU SEC YES 2006 Vince Young Texas BIG 12 YES 2006 Matt Leinart USC PAC 12 YES 2006 Jay Cutler Vanderbilt SEC NO 2005 Alex Smith Utah MWC NO 2005 Aaron Rodgers Cal PAC 12 NO 2005 Jason Campbell Auburn SEC YES 2004 Phillip Rivers NC State ACC NO 2004 JP Losman Tulane CUSA YES 2004 Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) MAC NO 2004 Eli Manning Mississippi SEC NO 2003 Byron Leftwich Marshall MAC YES 2003 Carson Palmer USC PAC 12 NO 2003 Kyle Boller Cal PAC 12 YES 2003 Rex Grossman Florida SEC YES 2002 Patrick Ramsey Tulane CUSA YES 2002 Joey Harrington Oregon PAC 12 YES 2002 David Carr Fresno St. WAC YES 2001 Michael Vick Virginia Tech BIG EAST NO 2000 Chad Pennington Marshall MAC NO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, kdiggz said: here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ This would be amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 They're just lucky Skip Bayless doesn't do a mock!!!!! He'd toast them. (sarcasm) 27 minutes ago, kdiggz said: here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ Getting the best Center and a great passer would be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Denver isn’t taking a QB at 5. Why ?? Because they have Keenam for 2 years ? Or maybe because they believe only one or two potential franchise QB’s who will be gone after the Jets pick ? 4 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: They're just lucky Skip Bayless doesn't do a mock!!!!! He'd toast them. (sarcasm) Getting the best Center and a great passer would be awesome Yes it would be but we’d have to move up to 2 to get a GREAT passer !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Putin said: Why ?? Because they have Keenam for 2 years ? Or maybe because they believe only one or two potential franchise QB’s who will be gone after the Jets pick ? Yes it would be but we’d have to move up to 2 to get a GREAT passer !!! I’ve heard that they don’t view QB’s as the other white meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 41 minutes ago, kdiggz said: here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ Why would Rosen be "perfect" to run an offense that Jackson ran in college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, the skycap said: Why would Rosen be "perfect" to run an offense that Jackson ran in college? Rosen is scheme diverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Interesting that another mock has Rudolph in the 1st. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Rosen is scheme diverse. I understand that, but seeing that the offense is something that Jackson ran and was successful at would make him the perfect fit as opposed to someone coming in and learning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Marino | Buffalo Bills 2018 NFL Draft PrimerIn Buffalo Bills’ general manager Brandon Beane’s first draft with the team he finds himself loaded with draft capital and a host of needs including the all-important quarterback position. Beane’s first 11 months on the job has been spent getting “his guys” that fit head coach Sean McDermott’s style.Here’s everything you need to know about Buffalo’s off-season and where they should be looking to upgrade the roster in this year’s NFL Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 There is so much information in this report; I have this theory. First, The guy sending the post IS the "Snitch". There is just TOO much detailed information to be second hand. The second is that this poster has a desperate need to feel important and it's kind of sad. Third is that this is all true. If so the "Snitch" should never have a job in the NFL again and the "Snitches Snitch" is someone to never be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, the skycap said: Why would Rosen be "perfect" to run an offense that Jackson ran in college? Because he is a better QB. Injury and distraction concerns tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: There is so much information in this report; I have this theory. First, The guy sending the post IS the "Snitch". There is just TOO much detailed information to be second hand. The second is that this poster has a desperate need to feel important and it's kind of sad. Third is that this is all true. If so the "Snitch" should never have a job in the NFL again and the "Snitches Snitch" is someone to never be trusted. It could be like Game of Thrones. They could know there’s a leak, give everyone a different story and whatever hits the web is your leak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Who was the guy in Texas who did mocks for his local paper and was really good, especially with the Bills picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Who was the guy in Texas who did mocks for his local paper and was really good, especially with the Bills picks? Rick Gosselin - Dallas Morning News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Yes please with sugar on top. I like keeping our first and only trading up to 7, but I don’t like taking a center in the first round. There’s too many other offensive lineman in this draft to take one that early. Get your BPA LB, DB, WR, or TE here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, the skycap said: I understand that, but seeing that the offense is something that Jackson ran and was successful at would make him the perfect fit as opposed to someone coming in and learning it. As a rusher yes he was successful, as a passer not nearly as successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Rick Gosselin - Dallas Morning News What happened to that dude? Did he start charging or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Nolan Nawrocki was the best. I remember his mock draft for the 2010 draft had 13 or 14 direct hits, right player to right team. He was super plugged in. Unfortunately, this is the first year he didnt put out a draft guide. I wonder if a team hired him.....I know he had declined offers in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 If we can get an elite passer, like Rosen, and not give up both 1st round picks, it should hopefully be a win for us. Please Buffalo, don't screw this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Putin said: Will this year’s draft have more trades then we can remember? So Denver would pass on Rosen and take a Guard ? Denver has what, $18M invested in QB this year? How did Gettleman put it - "there isn't a QB in the NFL who will say, don't worry about the middle, let 'em through and I'll take care of it". Denver could do way dumber things. OTOH keep in mind this winning guy predicted 28 of 32 1st round players last year, but only matched 9 to the correct team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I'm a big Keenum fan, but I don't see Denver passing on a QB and waiting a few years for something else down the road. Anyway, I'm thinking of going in on a sushi pop-up that would only operate between the SB and the Draft. It's called "Mock and Roll". Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Here's his record on what QBs from 2000-2015 he predicted would bust or not: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-your-1st-round-qb-is-likely-to-be-a-bust/ Here’s the full list of quarterbacks drafted in the first round from 2000-2015 to give an overview of this data and who I determined to be a bust. Year Player School Conf. Bust? 2015 Jameis Winston Florida St. ACC NO 2015 Marcus Mariota Oregon PAC 12 NO 2015 Johnny Manziel Texas A&M SEC YES 2014 Blake Bortles UCF AAC NO 2014 Teddy Bridgewater Louisville ACC YES 2013 EJ Manuel Florida St. ACC YES 2012 Robert Griffin III Baylor BIG 12 YES 2012 Brandon Weeden Oklahoma St. BIG 12 YES 2012 Andrew Luck Stanford PAC 12 NO 2012 Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M SEC NO 2011 Christian Ponder Florida St. ACC YES 2011 Blaine Gabbert Missouri BIG 12 YES 2011 Jake Locker Washington PAC 12 YES 2011 Cam Newton Auburn SEC NO 2010 Sam Bradford Oklahoma BIG 12 NO 2010 Tim Tebow Florida SEC YES 2009 Josh Freeman Kansas State BIG 12 YES 2009 Mark Sanchez USC PAC 12 YES 2009 Matthew Stafford Georgia SEC NO 2008 Matt Ryan Boston College ACC NO 2008 Joe Flacco Delaware FCS NO 2007 Brady Quinn Notre Dame IND YES 2007 JaMarcus Russell LSU SEC YES 2006 Vince Young Texas BIG 12 YES 2006 Matt Leinart USC PAC 12 YES 2006 Jay Cutler Vanderbilt SEC NO 2005 Alex Smith Utah MWC NO 2005 Aaron Rodgers Cal PAC 12 NO 2005 Jason Campbell Auburn SEC YES 2004 Phillip Rivers NC State ACC NO 2004 JP Losman Tulane CUSA YES 2004 Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) MAC NO 2004 Eli Manning Mississippi SEC NO 2003 Byron Leftwich Marshall MAC YES 2003 Carson Palmer USC PAC 12 NO 2003 Kyle Boller Cal PAC 12 YES 2003 Rex Grossman Florida SEC YES 2002 Patrick Ramsey Tulane CUSA YES 2002 Joey Harrington Oregon PAC 12 YES 2002 David Carr Fresno St. WAC YES 2001 Michael Vick Virginia Tech BIG EAST NO 2000 Chad Pennington Marshall MAC NO So.....23 busts and 18 "yes's". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Virgil said: What happened to that dude? Did he start charging or something? If I remember correctly, his mock doesn't come out until the day before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, maryland-bills-fan said: So.....23 busts and 18 "yes's". Why does totaling them matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 4 hours ago, kdiggz said: here is the top guy, Joe Marino's latest mock draft: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-6-pack-thursday-two-weeks-out-mock-draft/ The guy is a genius! 3 hours ago, Estro said: Nolan Nawrocki was the best. I remember his mock draft for the 2010 draft had 13 or 14 direct hits, right player to right team. He was super plugged in. Unfortunately, this is the first year he didnt put out a draft guide. I wonder if a team hired him.....I know he had declined offers in the past. The Cam thing killed him. 2 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: So.....23 busts and 18 "yes's". I think you would be: 1) surprised at amount of busts at other positions and 2) horrified at how bad the ratio gets after the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 @26CornerBlitz Hey, I know you are big on Rosen- (I am less a fan of his, but would still be happy if he is the "guy") but can you give me your opinion on the alleged attitude issues, and the injury history that we hear as knocks on him? I am not looking for a debate, just wanting to get to a point where I really understand the sides. Anyone else is welcome to respond as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Here's his record on what QBs from 2000-2015 he predicted would bust or not: https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-your-1st-round-qb-is-likely-to-be-a-bust/ Here’s the full list of quarterbacks drafted in the first round from 2000-2015 to give an overview of this data and who I determined to be a bust. Year Player School Conf. Bust? 2015 Jameis Winston Florida St. ACC NO 2015 Marcus Mariota Oregon PAC 12 NO 2015 Johnny Manziel Texas A&M SEC YES 2014 Blake Bortles UCF AAC NO 2014 Teddy Bridgewater Louisville ACC YES 2013 EJ Manuel Florida St. ACC YES 2012 Robert Griffin III Baylor BIG 12 YES 2012 Brandon Weeden Oklahoma St. BIG 12 YES 2012 Andrew Luck Stanford PAC 12 NO 2012 Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M SEC NO 2011 Christian Ponder Florida St. ACC YES 2011 Blaine Gabbert Missouri BIG 12 YES 2011 Jake Locker Washington PAC 12 YES 2011 Cam Newton Auburn SEC NO 2010 Sam Bradford Oklahoma BIG 12 NO 2010 Tim Tebow Florida SEC YES 2009 Josh Freeman Kansas State BIG 12 YES 2009 Mark Sanchez USC PAC 12 YES 2009 Matthew Stafford Georgia SEC NO 2008 Matt Ryan Boston College ACC NO 2008 Joe Flacco Delaware FCS NO 2007 Brady Quinn Notre Dame IND YES 2007 JaMarcus Russell LSU SEC YES 2006 Vince Young Texas BIG 12 YES 2006 Matt Leinart USC PAC 12 YES 2006 Jay Cutler Vanderbilt SEC NO 2005 Alex Smith Utah MWC NO 2005 Aaron Rodgers Cal PAC 12 NO 2005 Jason Campbell Auburn SEC YES 2004 Phillip Rivers NC State ACC NO 2004 JP Losman Tulane CUSA YES 2004 Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) MAC NO 2004 Eli Manning Mississippi SEC NO 2003 Byron Leftwich Marshall MAC YES 2003 Carson Palmer USC PAC 12 NO 2003 Kyle Boller Cal PAC 12 YES 2003 Rex Grossman Florida SEC YES 2002 Patrick Ramsey Tulane CUSA YES 2002 Joey Harrington Oregon PAC 12 YES 2002 David Carr Fresno St. WAC YES 2001 Michael Vick Virginia Tech BIG EAST NO 2000 Chad Pennington Marshall MAC NO Has this been verified or just what he claims to have predicted prior to each of those drafts? If it's real, that's impressive. And I may have missed it, but who does he think won't bust in this year's draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, whatdrought said: @26CornerBlitz Hey, I know you are big on Rosen- (I am less a fan of his, but would still be happy if he is the "guy") but can you give me your opinion on the alleged attitude issues, and the injury history that we hear as knocks on him? I am not looking for a debate, just wanting to get to a point where I really understand the sides. Anyone else is welcome to respond as well. Rosen is my #1 QB too. But he does suffer from turnovers vs Pressure. And it's evident here vs Memphis Look at 4:48-4:50 and 12:19-12:24 when the pressure starts getting to Josh he'll lose his mechanics with the quickness and go into this protection type throw and it results in turnovers. But other than that, there's just so much good. Tight Window throws; NFL Anticipation; lots of passing to the middle of the field; eye manipulation; pass placement in 1 v 1 situations. Lots to like IMO. For the most part very solid mechanics, probably the best in the class (just not against pressure). To me a Day 1 starter. Edited April 13, 2018 by NewEraBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I would not mind this draft! And that site is A+. Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Virgil said: I like keeping our first and only trading up to 7, but I don’t like taking a center in the first round. There’s too many other offensive lineman in this draft to take one that early. Get your BPA LB, DB, WR, or TE here. Yeah ideal world we only give up a 2nd to move up. And we can take LVE or Maurice Hurst. Pretty dreamy draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 hours ago, the skycap said: I understand that, but seeing that the offense is something that Jackson ran and was successful at would make him the perfect fit as opposed to someone coming in and learning it. The only problem is Jackson is a much worse passer than Rosen. So you go with Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Rosen is scheme diverse. He excells at high level meetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Putin said: Will this year’s draft have more trades then we can remember? So Denver would pass on Rosen and take a Guard ? I just stated this in another thread. Elway is building around Keenum, book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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