Kirby Jackson Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I sit firmly in the camp of “the Bills receivers are bad.” Would you deal a late round pick to the Bears for Kevin White? He is seemingly healthy (finally) and they have added Robinson and Gabriel. It’s probably not likely that White regains his form but was an elite talent just a few years ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 One year wonder in college who can't stay healthy....hmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Late round? Why not? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: Late round? Why not? this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Late round? Why not? Yeah... if he's available at that price it's a reasonable risk/reward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Why when we could get Cameron Meredith without giving up a pick? If the knee is ok he would be a really solid pick up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Had a huge upside. Would be silly for Bears to let him go for peanuts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Why when we could get Cameron Meredith without giving up a pick? If the knee is ok he would be a really solid pick up. I wouldn't mind signing Meredith and trying to get White for a 7th or 6th next year. The Bills receiving core beyond Benjamin and the hope of Zay Jones bouncing back is pretty bleak. Take a flyer on both players and draft a player in the 3rd or 2nd. There isn't much left on the market so take a chance on some players and if one pans out that's a lot of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Why when we could get Cameron Meredith without giving up a pick? If the knee is ok he would be a really solid pick up. The Bears will 100% match offers on Meredith unless it's such a stupid deal that you would be made at your team for offering it. They have plenty of cap space and no reason not to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: Had a huge upside. Would be silly for Bears to let him go for peanuts ? Yea but sometimes situations get dicey and it happens. Not sure if either side is completely soured here but I suppose possible it could happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns85 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I wouldn't mind signing Meredith and trying to get White for a 7th or 6th next year. The Bills receiving core beyond Benjamin and the hope of Zay Jones bouncing back is pretty bleak. Take a flyer on both players and draft a player in the 3rd or 2nd. There isn't much left on the market so take a chance on some players and if one pans out that's a lot of help. I’d be thrilled with either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I sit firmly in the camp of “the Bills receivers are bad.” Would you deal a late round pick to the Bears for Kevin White? He is seemingly healthy (finally) and they have added Robinson and Gabriel. It’s probably not likely that White regains his form but was an elite talent just a few years ago. I like the upside. Lets put a package together that get's us to 8 and gets uS White. Thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I sit firmly in the camp of “the Bills receivers are bad.” Would you deal a late round pick to the Bears for Kevin White? He is seemingly healthy (finally) and they have added Robinson and Gabriel. It’s probably not likely that White regains his form but was an elite talent just a few years ago. I'd give a 5th rounder for him. Still has elite potential imo, he has just had horrible luck with injuries. His college film looked similar to Sammy Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 $2.7M cap hit this year(basically his walk year with a $14M option in 2019). $2.7M isn't a ton but it's a lot for flyer on a complete failure like White. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Same dude who said he brings more to the table than Amari Cooper then absolutely flopped in the NFL... Hes got very good measurables and looked terrific in shorts his draft year, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 57 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I sit firmly in the camp of “the Bills receivers are bad.” Would you deal a late round pick to the Bears for Kevin White? He is seemingly healthy (finally) and they have added Robinson and Gabriel. It’s probably not likely that White regains his form but was an elite talent just a few years ago. Depends on how healthy he really is. Will he be as 'available' as McD wants his players to be ? Really wasnt a factor in his time with the Bears. Low draft pick is fine if we want to take a flyer but I honestly dont know his $$ cost. If BADOL is correct, then $2.7 MM sounds too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 With as talent-poor as the Bills are at WR, they can't afford not to give a player such as White a look. FAs aren't coming here until the QB position is settled, the draft isn't rich in WR's and a little dumpster diving isn't beneath them at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I’ll be the first to admit that I thought Kevin White was going to be the best WR in that class. Injuries have derailed him completely, obviously... but why would anyone give anything more than a late 7th for him? He’s proven to be made of glass. 22 minutes ago, buffalover4life said: I'd give a 5th rounder for him. Still has elite potential imo, he has just had horrible luck with injuries. His college film looked similar to Sammy Watkins 5th??? Let me ask you - what do you think Zay is worth in terms of draft picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 White is a bust, if we let Sammy go and then signed White I would loose my sense of direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Late round? Why not? Sure. But, it would almost be guaranteed a one year deal. i think he was #7 or 8 overall pick and this is his 4th year? So, you don’t pick up the 5th year. If he does well he hits FAs and gets paid or we franchise him. One year rental with some potential and expensive cap hit..maybe $6 million? But, he could be a number #2 and we don’t have a #2. I say sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 If the Pats did it......genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Does this dude stretch for field for our strong armed QBs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Manther said: Sure. But, it would almost be guaranteed a one year deal. i think he was #7 or 8 overall pick and this is his 4th year? So, you don’t pick up the 5th year. If he does well he hits FAs and gets paid or we franchise him. One year rental with some potential and expensive cap hit..maybe $6 million? But, he could be a number #2 and we don’t have a #2. I say sure. Cap hit this year is $2.6m if traded which is a bigger risk than the pick... and still not a big risk really the pick could turn into a higher comp down the line with his expiring contract depending on how the plus minus goes (the next offseason should see signings) Edited April 6, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: $2.7M cap hit this year(basically his walk year with a $14M option in 2019). $2.7M isn't a ton but it's a lot for flyer on a complete failure like White. This puts things into perspective. Hell no to Kevin white. We can sign a good player for 2.7 mill. No chance Beane spends the last of his money on a broken bum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: This puts things into perspective. Hell no to Kevin white. We can sign a good player for 2.7 mill. No chance Beane spends the last of his money on a broken bum Thats like the 70th highest paid wr. Could you get a safer guy? Yea. But with the risk comes potential reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Hard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Our #1 WR is 6’5 and has a history of knee problems. Those problems will likely persist. Our #2 wr could be in a mental hospital come opening day. If we’re going to spend 2.7 mill on a wr, the last guy I’d want to pay is Kevin white. Sure, it would be nice to have a guy with tremendous upside. This season, we need a guy that has tremendous durability. We have to make that 2.7 mill count. I wouldn’t count on Kevin White. And you shouldn’t either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I sit firmly in the camp of “the Bills receivers are bad.” Would you deal a late round pick to the Bears for Kevin White? He is seemingly healthy (finally) and they have added Robinson and Gabriel. It’s probably not likely that White regains his form but was an elite talent just a few years ago. Don't worry Kirbs, we will draft some even after we trade up. We can get DJ Chark or Dante Pettis in the third along with TE Mark Andrews - Championship buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This guy? No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Don't worry Kirbs, we will draft some even after we trade up. We can get DJ Chark or Dante Pettis in the third along with TE Mark Andrews - Championship buddy. I would take any and all of those guys in a heartbeat!! I really just saw Kevin White’s name on Twitter or something and it got me thinking. He wasn’t a guy that had crossed my mind prior. White could be like buying a powerball ticket when the jackpot is really high. You are probably wasting your money but at the cost he might be worth it. He is supposed to be ready for the full offseason program. It was just a thought to get a high upside guy for pennies on the dollar. My thought was was something like White and their 7th for our 6th. The worst case scenario is you cut him. The best case scenario is you found a talented WR. It’s worth the risk IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I sit firmly in the camp of “the Bills receivers are bad.” Would you deal a late round pick to the Bears for Kevin White? He is seemingly healthy (finally) and they have added Robinson and Gabriel. It’s probably not likely that White regains his form but was an elite talent just a few years ago. Not just late round. Last round. Former top 10 pick? Love grabbing underachievers rather than TC heroes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Not just late round. Last round. Former top 10 pick? Love grabbing underachievers rather than TC heroes. I agree with this theory. If you can buy talent cheap, do it. If it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I've never been able to buy into him after he couldn't get the better of his namesake vs TCU a few years ago. You know, THAT Kevin White. 5 foot 9, 183 pounds, 4.63 UDFA nickel corner that did exactly zero in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 He wouldn't be my first choice, but if other guys fall through I'd consider him an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 10 hours ago, Bakin said: I’ll be the first to admit that I thought Kevin White was going to be the best WR in that class. Injuries have derailed him completely, obviously... but why would anyone give anything more than a late 7th for him? He’s proven to be made of glass. 5th??? Let me ask you - what do you think Zay is worth in terms of draft picks? I just don't value 5th round or later picks, if the draft is a crap shoot the ods of finding a star in the 5th are even longer. Kevin still has potential but like you said, made of glass thus far. Zay wouldn't be on the block, i still see him as a potential star who had a tough rookie year, I wont be surprised if he starts balling next year as he flashed in preseason. Also wont be surprised if he falls on his face and cant catch the ball again. Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 9 hours ago, NoSaint said: Thats like the 70th highest paid wr. Could you get a safer guy? Yea. But with the risk comes potential reward. I would rather try to get Martavis Bryant or Travis Benjamin........Kirby probably would as well. I could see Kelvin Benjamin included in a trade-up with Giants if they deal OBJ. Would only get between 2nd and 4th round value for him but getting Eli a new Plaxico-esque option in KB to replace OBJ might help close the deal. I am having a hard time seeing a scenario where KB gets extended in Buffalo at $14M-$17M per year......between his knees and his "tweener" WR/TE value/status. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I would take any and all of those guys in a heartbeat!! I really just saw Kevin White’s name on Twitter or something and it got me thinking. He wasn’t a guy that had crossed my mind prior. White could be like buying a powerball ticket when the jackpot is really high. You are probably wasting your money but at the cost he might be worth it. He is supposed to be ready for the full offseason program. It was just a thought to get a high upside guy for pennies on the dollar. My thought was was something like White and their 7th for our 6th. The worst case scenario is you cut him. The best case scenario is you found a talented WR. It’s worth the risk IMO. Well I never heard of him so he can't be any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 @Kirby Jackson... Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago More Saints are signing Bears’ restricted free-agent WR Cameron Meredith to an offer sheet, per source. Saints’ WR coach Curtis Johnson is the former Bears’ WR coach, and knows Meredith well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I would rather try to get Martavis Bryant or Travis Benjamin........Kirby probably would as well. I could see Kelvin Benjamin included in a trade-up with Giants if they deal OBJ. Would only get between 2nd and 4th round value for him but getting Eli a new Plaxico-esque option in KB to replace OBJ might help close the deal. I am having a hard time seeing a scenario where KB gets extended in Buffalo at $14M-$17M per year......between his knees and his "tweener" WR/TE value/status. Generally would agree on all fronts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: @Kirby Jackson... Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago More Saints are signing Bears’ restricted free-agent WR Cameron Meredith to an offer sheet, per source. Saints’ WR coach Curtis Johnson is the former Bears’ WR coach, and knows Meredith well. Watch him put up crazy numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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