TheElectricCompany Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: He's worth nothing if he walks next year Of course not, but you know what? This is standard offseason smoke. We've seen this story dozens of times. There are holdouts every year, some guys threaten to sit out the season, and they never do. It might drag into training camp, but the check will get written either way. OBJ will get a fat contract with the Giants, get traded elsewhere and still get a fat contract, and we'll see him in September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: This possibility will affect the asking price. If the Gmen have no intention of paying OBJ market rate and are sick if his antics , he'll be moved. Right. They are currently selling low though with his injury last year I think their best bet is to play him a few games and show he's healthy, unless they can get a good pick this year for him obv Just now, TheElectricCompany said: Of course not, but you know what? This is standard offseason smoke. We've seen this story dozens of times. There are holdouts every year, some guys threaten to sit out the season, and they never do. It might drag into training camp, but the check will get written either way. OBJ will get a fat contract with the Giants, get traded elsewhere and still get a fat contract, and we'll see him in September. Oh he's definitely getting a fat contract. I'm just not sure it's from the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Rams have traded for everyone this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 48 minutes ago, Magox said: Could you just imagine how great of a decoy he'd be with the Rams? I bet he'd be 5th on the team in total receptions. OBD. Odell Beckham Decoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: OBJ is worth way more than Corey Coleman. They would be flip flopping picks in my scenario as well. That is the equivalent of a 2nd rounder (maybe the Browns add a pick). If the Giants do like Darnold it make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Beckham and 2 to the Browns for 1 & Corey Coleman. Wow that's actually pretty smart, especially if the rumors are true that the Giants really want Darnold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I said it about 3 years ago that this guy was TO part II. TO was a great player as is Odell, but the sideshow gets old. He will end up being a successful journeyman who never stays in one place too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Estro said: Wow that's actually pretty smart, especially if the rumors are true that the Giants really want Darnold I proposed this 7 hours ago and no one thought it was smart then. It’s Yolo-ist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: They would be flip flopping picks in my scenario as well. That is the equivalent of a 2nd rounder (maybe the Browns add a pick). If the Giants do like Darnold it make sense. It does make sense but probably have to add a pick in. Imagine if the Giants grab Darnold..Browns get Allen and Jets go Rosen...that would shake everything up for the rest of the blue chip prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: It does make sense but probably have to add a pick in. Imagine if the Giants grab Darnold..Browns get Allen and Jets go Rosen...that would shake everything up for the rest of the blue chip prospects. Yeah, it might be a CRAZY top 10. Everyone will be in scramble mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 The Bills need to be on the phone. We have no WR's and we aren't going to have a shot at any as talented as OBJ in the near future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: The Bills need to be on the phone. We have no WR's and we aren't going to have a shot at any as talented as OBJ in the near future. I tend to agree even if it is not a popular opinion around here. OBJ is about as far from the stereotypical “Buffalo guy” as you will find. With that being said he is a star and our WR group stinks. It makes sense for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, it might be a CRAZY top 10. Everyone will be in scramble mode. Friends want to have big draft party for 1st round. Tbh I think I need to be alone this year. is this weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I tend to agree even if it is not a popular opinion around here. OBJ is about as far from the stereotypical “Buffalo guy” as you will find. With that being said he is a star and our WR group stinks. It makes sense for the Bills. A superstar skill player isn't a "Buffalo guy?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: When you have a lot of young guys and not a lot of dead space, you can do well. Now, when Goff needs to get paid..... This is What Beane has been preaching since he got here. Hopefully we are a year away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Friends want to have big draft party for 1st round. Tbh I think I need to be alone this year. is this weird Your friends are safer that way; better you break TV, etc than your friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The Rams seem to have infinite cap space, I swear. First they're going after Suh and now OBJ? Its easy to work someone in if you think it’s important. A $20m signing bonus is only $4m in this years cap. You just have to choose wisely. 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I tend to agree even if it is not a popular opinion around here. OBJ is about as far from the stereotypical “Buffalo guy” as you will find. With that being said he is a star and our WR group stinks. It makes sense for the Bills. I don’t care about the personality a ton— but worry he’s the type that won’t live up to the deal he’s about to get. I also doubt we are trading picks for and giving monster deals to both Benjamin and him. I think our dynamic guy is coming from the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Giants supposedly like Darnold a lot. He is the guy that most people think will be gone. They are fed up with OBJ and not going to pay him what he wants. The Browns can offer them the chance to get the QB that they want and pick up OBJ at the same time. The Browns can afford the crazy price for Beckham and Landry because their entire roster is on rookie deals. It makes a lot of sense IMO. Beckham and Landry in the same huddle arguing with Tyrod over who should get the ball. That would certainly make the sports talk shows humming. When you have a fire why not throw in more gasoline to make the situation even more volatile. If OBJ can't be corralled under his current contract how is he going to behave if he has one of the riches contracts with guaranteed money for a receiver locked in? If Cleveland or any team signs him they are asking for trouble. He's a great talent who is capable of blowing up a team. It seems like each year his behavior becomes more erratic and outrageous. Fools gold! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Right... Because there's no way he can find blow and hot models in LA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 WRs are so overrated. This dude is super annoying and if you can sell high on him before you pay him a ton of money, it could be a great deal for the Giants. Also, Goff doesn’t have a strong arm. I can already picture OBJ melting down on the sideline and knocking up some porn “star.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 First Suh now OBJ? They better have a strong locker room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Gotta be crazy like Gurley for odb or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: Its easy to work someone in if you think it’s important. A $20m signing bonus is only $4m in this years cap. You just have to choose wisely. I don’t care about the personality a ton— but worry he’s the type that won’t live up to the deal he’s about to get. I also doubt we are trading picks for and giving monster deals to both Benjamin and him. I think our dynamic guy is coming from the draft. I think there's a decent chance KB isn't on our roster this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Magox said: Could you just imagine how great of a decoy he'd be with the Rams? I bet he'd be 5th on the team in total receptions. Kupp would break the single-season receptions record!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Someone looking like a clown is ideal for LA. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/25/giants-owner-im-tired-of-answering-questions-about-odells-behavior/ “I’m tired of answering questions about Odell’s behavior,” Mara said. “He knows what is expected of him and now it’s up to him.” Beckham turned up in a video with a woman and a pizza and an unusually dark cigarette and a pile of a white powder, The Giants have said in the past they wanted Beckham to stay in New York his entire career, and it’s unclear if the latest episode is enough to change that. New General Manager Dave Gettleman said at the Scouting Combine Beckham had a “clean slate” with him, but it seems Gettleman’s boss has a longer memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: That cant be true. The just had Sammy “Jerry Rice” Watkins. Why on earth would the want him? SARCASM INTENDED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) This is why it's important to draft your QB, preferably in round 1, bc you get 5 years of quality QB play on a bargain contract. Rams can afford to load up and make a run now. I'm pretty sure with all the cap space cleared out for next year, Beane is hoping to follow a similar blue print. Then, when the time comes to re-up, you hope he's the kind of QB who can elevate the play of his WRs so you no longer have to pay up for that position. No way Beane is staying at 12 and hoping to land his guy. This isn't just about finding a starting QB, this pick is basically Beane's career on the line. You hit on a franchise QB, instant job security... You miss on a QB, or hitch your wagon to the wrong guy, and your career as an NFL GM is likely over just as quick as it began. Edited March 27, 2018 by ThunderGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I thought Landry and Gordon would kill TT for a 140 yard passing day, you add OBJ to that group and TT is a dead man. You will have 3 diva WR's who want targets and a QB who doesn't pull the trigger until the play is broken down or you are wide open. I will have my popcorn ready for this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: That cant be true. The just had Sammy “Jerry Rice” Watkins. Why on earth would the want him? SARCASM INTENDED Had is the key word. In case you missed it, Watkins hit it big in free agency. The Rams need to replace Watkins, as they no longer have the WR that will open up their underneath passing game for Kupp and Woods. OBJ is on a 5th year option for about 8 million. That's close to half what they'd be paying Watkins if they were able to keep him. Seems like a good fit that could fall into their lap if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 7 hours ago, HappyDays said: So Les Snead is betting everything on 2018 and 2019. After that they won't be able to pay anyone. Good luck with that, I guess. He won't care after that..he has a new stadium that he needs to sell out....LA Loves a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 6 hours ago, FappyTheClown said: lolz the Rams are going for broke. And my bookie doesn’t take offsean odds.SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I thought Landry and Gordon would kill TT for a 140 yard passing day, you add OBJ to that group and TT is a dead man. You will have 3 diva WR's who want targets and a QB who doesn't pull the trigger until the play is broken down or you are wide open. I will have my popcorn ready for this one. Man you said it. Wouldn’t envy Tyrod/Darnold/whoever with that WR unit. Crazy that Gordon’s probably the most well balanced of the bunch ((currently)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Oddly, Bills commonly mentioned as a potential trade partner. However, I think there is no chance Beane and McD want that attitude in the locker room. But...we could make an interesting offer of #22, say our 4th next year, and Kelvin Benjamin (Who Gettleman drafted). But...the team I would watch out for is also SF who could potentially offer the 9th pick and pair him with Jimmy G for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 To recap the great WR class of 2014: Watkins: Traded; not resigned; now on 3rd team Landry: Not resigned; headcase; now in Cle Cooks: Traded. Demanded one. Fantastic decoy now in New England Robinson: Hurt. Not resigned. Now in Chi Benjamin: Traded. Jordan Matthews: Traded. Will soon be on 3rd team Martavis Bryant: likes weed John Brown: Injury plagued Lee: Resigned. He's meh. Moncrief: Near bust status OBJ: Now on trading block. Also, headcase. Davante Adams: New no.1 in GB. We'll see. Evans---the best of all of them imo. Staying with Bucs locked up with extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Had is the key word. In case you missed it, Watkins hit it big in free agency. The Rams need to replace Watkins, as they no longer have the WR that will open up their underneath passing game for Kupp and Woods. OBJ is on a 5th year option for about 8 million. That's close to half what they'd be paying Watkins if they were able to keep him. Seems like a good fit that could fall into their lap if it happens. I didnt miss anything. Watkins pay has nothing to fo with actual production. Its still based on potential; thats rich and synonymous with bust and unemployed gms. OBJ will continue to clearly outperform the disappointing underachieving Watkins. The Rams knew exactly what Watkins was and are now going after someone else.. Edited March 27, 2018 by Bill_with_it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: To recap the great WR class of 2014: Watkins: Traded; not resigned; now on 3rd team Landry: Not resigned; headcase; now in Cle Cooks: Traded. Demanded one. Fantastic decoy now in New England Robinson: Hurt. Not resigned. Now in Chi Benjamin: Traded. Jordan Matthews: Traded. Will soon be on 3rd team Martavis Bryant: likes weed John Brown: Injury plagued Lee: Resigned. He's meh. Moncrief: Near bust status OBJ: Now on trading block. Also, headcase. Davante Adams: New no.1 in GB. We'll see. Evans---the best of all of them imo. Staying with Bucs locked up with extension. Funny, you forgot to list their salaries for next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 OBJ and Aaron Donald both going into 5th year option want big money now. With a large bonus for both it's possible. It sure looks like they are going all in this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: ? If Sammy Watkins wasn't a process guy, you think OBJ is? not a chance. The process only matters if you draft/ acquire them. Remember when Sammy tried to fight his brother naked and jump out of a 30 story building? Sammy didn’t have the right character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Giants supposedly like Darnold a lot. He is the guy that most people think will be gone. They are fed up with OBJ and not going to pay him what he wants. The Browns can offer them the chance to get the QB that they want and pick up OBJ at the same time. The Browns can afford the crazy price for Beckham and Landry because their entire roster is on rookie deals. It makes a lot of sense IMO. Tyrod throwing to Beckham and Landry? hmmmm.. what could go wrong with that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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