The Bills Blog Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I wouldn't, and I hope Brandon Beane agrees. And this is even a bare minimum of what it would cost to get to #2. Using the chart, #12 (Vander Esch), #22 (Moore), #53 (Rudolph), and #65 (Penny) get you to #2, but because of the Jets trade, you'll probably have to give up significantly more than that. Is Rosen (or your other preferred QB other than Darnold) better than Rudolph to the extent that you're willing to just not have Vander Esch, Moore, Penny, and some other high-impact player? I am firmly in the camp of keeping our picks at this point. The Bills are in position to build a dominant roster. Let McCarron, Rudolph, and Peterman compete. FYI: the available players came from the Fanspeak draft simulator using Matt Miller's board and the difficult algorithm. Quote 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 In a FN heartbeat. 13 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills of Boston Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 In a nanosecond 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elltrain22 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hell yeah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 How many times do we have to go over this? YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills of Boston Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I appreciate the OP don’t get me wrong but putting names to it does NOTHING to change my mind. Look I don’t “know” which qbs will pan out I get that. But theoretically drafting Rudolph just to check the box of drafting a qb is so wildly irrelevant in my opinion. Swing for the fences, now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Still 5 weeks before this crap can end. My God is this going to be a long five weeks before the draft, unless the Devils are able to occupy my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Respectfully, I think ya'll have lost your ever-loving minds! Time will be the judge on Josh Rosen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hell yeah I would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I wouldn't give it all up for Rosen. Not with his concussion history. For Darnold yes. My hope is we get the Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 No. I would not. Give mccaron some weapons and a defense and see what he's got and have Rudolph develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: In a FN heartbeat. Yep. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: No. I would not. Give mccaron some weapons and a defense and see what he's got and have Rudolph develop Maybe that's what the Falcons should have done in 2008: pass on Matt Ryan, keep Joey Harrington at QB and take the best defensive player available at 3. If they did that, they'd have multiple Lombardi trophies in Mercedes Benz Stadium <thick sarcasm> Edited March 24, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Detective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I wouldn't, and I hope Brandon Beane agrees. And this is even a bare minimum of what it would cost to get to #2. Using the chart, #12 (Vander Esch), #22 (Moore), #53 (Rudolph), and #65 (Penny) get you to #2, but because of the Jets trade, you'll probably have to give up significantly more than that. Is Rosen (or your other preferred QB other than Darnold) better than Rudolph to the extent that you're willing to just not have Vander Esch, Moore, Penny, and some other high-impact player? I am firmly in the camp of keeping our picks at this point. The Bills are in position to build a dominant roster. Let McCarron, Rudolph, and Peterman compete. FYI: the available players came from the Fanspeak draft simulator using Matt Miller's board and the difficult algorithm. Would you trade high impact players like Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragnuts, Adolphus Washington and Zay Jones for Josh Rosen? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: In a FN heartbeat. This. Yes. All day long. Make the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: No. I would not. Give mccaron some weapons and a defense and see what he's got and have Rudolph develop I repeat. When McCarron had AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Mohamed Sanu, and Tyler Eifert in CIN he put up pedestrian numbers. He's a bridge to the franchise QB. 2018 draft baby! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Yup, without a question. Putting names to it doesn’t change my mind. The Bills have tried for over 20 years to “build the team.” How’s that worked out? Edited March 24, 2018 by Wayne Cubed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yup No hesitation. And I'd do it with a smile from ear to ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Count me in as a yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Maybe that's what the Falcons should have done in 2008: pass on Matt Ryan, keep Joey Harrington at QB and take the best defensive player available at 3. If they did that, they'd have multiple Lombardi trophies in Mercedes Benz Stadium <thick sarcasm> The Falcons have yet to win a SB...with or without Ryan. I get that Ryan was a good pick, but your sarcasm misses the mark for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Would you trade Cornelius Bennett, Darryl Talley, Frank Reich and Kenneth Davis for Jim Kelly? Lock thread. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Would you trade Cornelius Bennett, Darryl Talley, Frank Reich and Kenneth Davis for Jim Kelly? Lock thread. Case closed. The Bills didnt so this reply makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yeah, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I'm torn because Rosen is my least favorite of the 1st round QBs (excluding Rudolph who I don't view as a 1st rounder at all) but I also don't like the Rudolph or Penny picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) ABSOF**KINLUTELY YEAH! And if it helps I'd be all in on offering the Giants 12, 22 and next years #1 if that became necessary... If Rosen/Darnold were available at #2 I'd do it in an instant... It is that important... Hell - I'm even starting to warm to the idea of Josh Allen.... Edited March 24, 2018 by DefenseWins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Is that all?? F yes! And twice onTuesday's! Please sir, can I have some more???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: No. I would not. Give mccaron some weapons and a defense and see what he's got and have Rudolph develop This is exactly the kind of thinking that gets you a 17 year playoff drought. Investing in mediocrity is no way to live your life son. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 If Rosen is the QB that the Bills Org has determined is the guy, then you give up whatever you have to to get him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 When did Vande.r Esch go from the 2018 version of our inevitable Casey Matthews 4th round pick to #12? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yeppppppppp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Respectfully, I think ya'll have lost your ever-loving minds! Time will be the judge on Josh Rosen. First off, draft would have to work out perfectly for that to happen. Secondly, hell yes. Give me Rosen every time! Edited March 24, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Problem is going to be would the Giants? They have a 53 year old QB that hasn't played that well in awhile. Maybe they are thinking the same thing? Eli to Rosen for the next decade might be too good to pass at any price. Edited March 24, 2018 by slaphappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: ABSOF**KINLUTELY YEAH! And if it helps I'd be all in on offering the Giants 12, 22 and next years #1 if that became necessary... If Rosen/Darnold were available at #2 I'd do it in an instant... It is that important... Hell - I'm even starting to warm to the idea of Josh Allen.... I was with you up until Allen. Were you one of those guys that fell for Nassib after all of the message board hype? 2 minutes ago, slaphappy said: Problem is going to be would the Giants? They have a 53 year old QB that hasn't played that well in awhile. Maybe they are thinking the same thing? Eli to Rosen for the next decade might be too good to pass at any price. I’d have to agree. I really don’t think Giants even want to trade. Especially not to 12. The Bills will have to hope for some slippage and another willing partner I think. Browns at four? Edited March 24, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, slaphappy said: Problem is going to be would the Giants? They have a 53 year old QB that hasn't played that well in awhile. Maybe they are thinking the same thing? Eli to Rosen for the next decade might be to good to pass at any price. I know that was Hyperbole but Eli is 37. Rivers and Roethlisberger are 36. I think they may start considering replacements but they didn't fall off of a cliff, and arent suddenly worthless. They each may have a few more years left in them. Brady and Brees aren't super human. It is the nature of the game that has changed how long they can play. Edited March 24, 2018 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Bobby Hooks said: I was with you up until Allen. Were you one of those guys that fell for Nassib after all of the message board hype? I’d have to agree. I really don’t think Giants even want to trade. Especially not to 12. The Bills will have to hope for some slippage and another partner I think. I was thinking QB's going 1-2-3 was not realistic when I first heard it. After thinking about it Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield kinda doesn't seem that far fetched. Just now, What a Tuel said: I know that was Hyperbole but Eli is 37. Rivers and Roethlisberger are 36. I think they may start considering replacements but they didn't fall off of a cliff, and are suddenly worthless. They each may have a few more years left in them. Brady isn't super human. It is the nature of the game that has changed how long they can play. I'm hoping you are right and they aren't really thinking about it. I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I will say whoever they think is THE QB, heck yeah! Get the QB then build. You do NOT win the grand prize without the QB. Hey, if AJ turns into Garrappolo, you trade him for a kings fortune. Billy B gave him away to screw Kraft, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I would literally take any QB but Rosen, he's a punk and doesn't deserve to be the face of our franchise, he's the least Buffalo guy in the entire draft, I hope we stay far away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: I will say whoever they think is THE QB, heck yeah! Get the QB then build. You do NOT win the grand prize without the QB. Hey, if AJ turns into Garrappolo, you trade him for a kings fortune. Billy B gave him away to screw Kraft, I think. If AJ turns into Garoppolo why trade him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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