CLTbills Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I don't know. I just have this feeling. I have no "inside sources" or anything like that. But this just feels to me like Beane is sitting in his chair at OBD with a big grin on his face. Either they truly have no intentions of moving up from 12 and he made the Jets give away all of their draft capital, OR he already has a deal for #2 in place and didn't want to let anybody know.... Therefore the Jets STILL give up all of their draft capital, and still can't get in front of us. I don't know. It's just that everything they've done to this point has all been 2-3 steps ahead. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I agree. I reserve the right to not panic until circumstances call for it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, CLTbills said: he already has a deal for #2 in place and didn't want to let anybody know. Man I hope this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 or 3 steps ahead of Bills fans. Not the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 So in this theory, Beane has some weird obsession with taking out the jets? He made all these moves, obviously gave out intentions to get into the top 3, all to derail the Jets? God I hope not... It would show some signs of great mental instability and understanding of the league, because the Jets have been awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I think It comes down to who the Bills have targeted and will they be there at 2. No reason to pull the trigger untill you are certain of the intentions of cleveland. With the trade for Taylor maybe they go Allen and Buffalo wants Darnold. It is hard to tell. Maybe they want Rosen but think in the end Cleveland will take him. If you are going to pay the price to move up you better be sure your guy will be there. Trading to 3 ensures nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I sincerely hope you are correct. Beane is playing a dangerous game with the fans by making it look by all accounts that he wanted to acquire resources to move up to the top for a QB but really wanted to sit back and BPA. It might be the right move, but it's definitely dangerous to lead everyone to believe they were going to get a new QB and instead take a linebacker and corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I don't think it was with the reports that the Bills were in on the #3 pick trade discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Absolutely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 beane staying at 12 has nothing to do with the Jets. Jets can't get to 1 or 2 so they went to 3 to get the best 1qb they can. Colts probably did want to move to far down so the they made the deal with the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 No. It just happens. Do what you got to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, akm0404 said: I sincerely hope you are correct. Beane is playing a dangerous game with the fans by making it look by all accounts that he wanted to acquire resources to move up to the top for a QB but really wanted to sit back and BPA. It might be the right move, but it's definitely dangerous to lead everyone to believe they were going to get a new QB and instead take a linebacker and corner. Yes the 'greatest fans in the NFL' always have torches and pitchforks for an instant mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: So in this theory, Beane has some weird obsession with taking out the jets? He made all these moves, obviously gave out intentions to get into the top 3, all to derail the Jets? God I hope not... It would show some signs of great mental instability and understanding of the league, because the Jets have been awful. Not necessarily to derail the Jets, but any team that wanted to jump up there to grab our guy. If we can still get our guy and make them give up a bunch for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Yeah, you're always going to see FIRE SO AND SO every time someone else does anything. That stuff is usually pretty dumb, but you definitely bring that upon yourself if you try to fool people a bit, especially when it comes to quarterbacks. I would assume they are smart enough to realize this though, so we shall see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Yes, his plan was to have a division rival have a crack at a potentially franchise changing player while we prioritize signing guys off of multiple knee tears and PED suspensions having not played in a year. In the mean time, Vinny Curry is available, who played well LAST YEAR in a similar scheme and would probably have come cheaper. Who is laughing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The biggest hope we have is that Gettleman told the Jets that the second overall pick has been sold already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTLBillsfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, akm0404 said: I sincerely hope you are correct. Beane is playing a dangerous game with the fans by making it look by all accounts that he wanted to acquire resources to move up to the top for a QB but really wanted to sit back and BPA. It might be the right move, but it's definitely dangerous to lead everyone to believe they were going to get a new QB and instead take a linebacker and corner. Watching Beane's presser yesterday it sounds like he would be content staying at 12 if he can get a player he wants. The Jets paid a pretty steep price to move to 3 so trading off half your draft pics and maybe one next year might be too much to pay for a QB. Getting a slightly lower tier QB plus a half dozen good players for other positions my prove to be a better decision. I don't see Beane pulling a Mike Ditka and trading the whole slate of pics for 1 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Is he the leader of the A-Team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Everything that Beane has done has been cool and calculated. If you listened to his comments yesterday, he even has guys at One Bills Drive holding him in check, so that he doesn't make a move that will be more costly in the end. There is no reason to panic just because the Jets moved up. Many on this board have preconceived notions of who the best QB in this draft is. Quite frankly, none of us knows for sure. And right now...neither does Beane. If he comes to the conclusion that there is only one guy...I think he will make a most serious attempt to insure the Bills get that guy. But...he will need to be damn sure before he mortgages the future. He's using his head...not his emotions to make his decisions. If you react the way many on this board react, you end up grabbing a Blaine Gabbert or a Christian Ponder...christening them your franchise QB just because they were the top rated QBs that year. (Heck...you can throw in EJ Manual into that mix.) There are a number of good QBs in this draft and each is flawed in some way. After workouts and visits to One Bills Drive, the Bills will decide on who their guy is...and will do their best to get him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I don't know about all that. But I do wonder if the Jets could only get as high as 3 because Gettleman wants our two 1st's this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) I'm not worried about it. Worst case scenario we don't get a qb in the top 5 this year, I still feel like McCarron is gonna beat out any qb we could draft this year. I still think the bills will do whatever they can to move up, but at the end of the day, I think McCarron is our starting qb this season. Edited March 17, 2018 by Steptide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I just doubt the Colts made the move without Beane having a chance to beat the offer. He didnt match it and he has to have a good reason for it. Let's see how it shakes out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 ...he "checked" after his move at 12 to precisely see stuff like this unfold.....my hunch is would not invest that type of draft capital in one player......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I don't think so. Indy's pick was the obvious target for a team in the top 5 who didn't need a QB. Now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The biggest hope we have is that Gettleman told the Jets that the second overall pick has been sold already. That's kind of where I was going with this thread. What if Beane and Gettleman already have a deal agreed to, but are just waiting to submit the paperwork/announce it until a bunch of teams start pulling stuff like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Best case scenario is Bills fall in love with Mason Rudolph and, as many people do, have him as one the top 2-3 QB's in the draft. If that ends up being the case, they can still get a light blue chip player along with their QB and cash in those 2nd's and 3rd's as well. I'd be thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I certainly hope so. Hopefully they want a different QB than we do anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: I just doubt the Colts made the move without Beane having a chance to beat the offer. He didnt match it and he has to have a good reason for it. Let's see how it shakes out. Exactly. There is a 0% chance that the Bills did not have a chance to beat this offer. Either a) it was too rich for the Bills' blood and they might just stay at 12 or move up to like 7 on draft day or b) they knew that by moving to 3, the Jets could then simply throw in next year's first and move up to 2. By the Jets even being involved, it essentially ensured that QB's are now going to go 1-2-3. Unless you love three of the QB's about the same (which the Jets have to), getting to 3 is almost pointless at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) I just think Beane didn't value the 3 puck as much as the Jets did. Edited March 17, 2018 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Paulus said: I just think Beane didn't value the 3 puck as much as the Jews did. Everyone's always blaming the Jews 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The only thing that would make sense is beane already having a deal in place with Gettlemen and the Giants for #2. This is why you dont wait for draft day. Trade up and secure yourself a top QB. Bills might completely f this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This is such a potential Optics nightmare for Beane unless he secures the #2 overall pick. Of course optics isn't and doesn't have to mean the truth, but they will sure feel like the truth unless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) I don’t see that as plausible at all. I am sure the Jets tried to trade with the Giants and it appears that the Giants want to stay put - or- would trade out only for an unreasonable amount. This is what I was talking about when I said the Bills “draft capital” wasn’t all that much better than the Jets’ or Broncos’. At this point, I would expect Darnold, Rosen and either Allen or Mayfield to be gone in the first 5 or 6 picks. If the Bills can’t get up to take Mayfield, I think they will look for Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph, perhaps moving up a bit from 22 for one of them. Unlike many here, I think Rudolph is a good prospect. Edited March 17, 2018 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Everyone's always blaming the Jews Man, autocorrect... Jets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I find it funny that the Bills fans are fearing something the Jets front office. This is the team that gave up the farm to get Mark Sanchez. That only just recently, only in the last few weeks, screwed up the QB negotiations for Kirk Cousins. Now they've way, way, way overpaid to go from 6 to 3, and left the door open for Denver to go from 5 to 2. Which, mark my words, they will do. The Jets freaking invented the clown car so they could get to the Meadowlands together. I'm sure as heck glad we've got Beane running the show here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 It doesn't matter what the Jets did. We have the luxury of possibly finding 5 starters in the first 65 picks. We can stay at 12 and 22 and still fill two needs and get two LB's to shore up the D. IMO we are in prime position to stay where we at fill all our needs and grab a Lauletta or White in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Clyde Smith said: It doesn't matter what the Jets did. We have the luxury of possibly finding 5 starters in the first 65 picks. We can stay at 12 and 22 and still fill two needs and get two LB's to shore up the D. IMO we are in prime position to stay where we at fill all our needs and grab a Lauletta or White in the 2nd. I could live with that plan, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I know I trust Beane more than I would Macagnan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Or they like someone like Rudolph or Jackson enough that they knew 4 qb’s would go in the top-10 and wanted to be at 12 to land a guy who they still believe can be a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said: So in this theory, Beane has some weird obsession with taking out the jets? He made all these moves, obviously gave out intentions to get into the top 3, all to derail the Jets? God I hope not... It would show some signs of great mental instability and understanding of the league, because the Jets have been awful. How do you know all those moves were made so we could move up to #2 or # 3 ? Because you watch ESPN ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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