Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, f0neguy said: And we know the Jets want the same guy as the Bills, right? If Beane really wants to get to #2 it'll be expensive but should be possible. Trust the process, back away from the ledge. I'm guessing similar to when Goff and Wentz came out we probably like two guys at minimum in this draft. Eagles traded up to #2 knowing they would get one of the two and that was fine with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Ittakestime said: Quit being so dramatic. Besides Darnold, these guys are all mushed together with concerns. There is zero reason to give up everything to get a guy with concerns. I don't know how old you are but history has a freaking interesting way of repeating itself. I was being just as dramatic when we settled for Losman and everyone called me an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Depends on demand. It's possible Bills and Jets fought for pick 3. Pick 2 would have similar value. But if Buffalo wasn't willing to do that for 3, they likely won't for 2. But if I'm the Giants I never take what Jets paid for 3. Bills would have to give me more. The cost is 4 high draft picks. Two first and two seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 54s54 seconds ago The #Jets explored all options for this trade... including possibly going up to No. 1. In the end, they settled on No. 3. ... Meanwhile, the #Colts fielded calls from other QB-needy teams, but felt good about moving to No. 6 and dealing with the #Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 if we want 2nd pick, it will cost us our 2 first and 2nds.maybe the late 3rd but giants will want 65 so we give it to them cuz we couldnt trade to 3 with the colts ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, jahnyc said: I assume this is to draft Rosen, but who knows. Maybe Jeff Lageman has a draft age son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, jimmy10 said: Jets were picking ahead of us anyway. Not if the plan was to trade up to three in case the giants don't want to trade up. Are you simple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 It doesn't matter what the price is now....it has to be done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Time to up our game. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If Beane whiffs on a QB this year he should be fired, I don’t care what else he does. This is really it - he has the amunition and there is no excuse. His predecessor was too tentative about the QB position and got canned. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: But if I'm the Giants I never take what Jets paid for 3. Bills would have to give me more. The cost is 4 high draft picks. Two first and two seconds. Yep. We are talking franchise QB. No price is too much, but you have to be right. Edited March 17, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Whatever's, Jets overpaid for the pick and will Botch their QB selection. Let the draft come to us. I think this impacts the Browns thinking now about what QB they need to take at 1 instead of Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Dumb on their part. Now the Bills or another team can jump to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: Welp, might as well stay at 12 and take Allen . or move to 4 and get the third qb. Allen is not getting to 12. I don't know what your smoking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 oh well, woe is me. Time to start picking up 2020 picks. McCarron will have to steer the ship until the arrival of Tagovailoa . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Jets will not look good if the Giants trade out of the second pick and the team that makes the trade selects the QB the Jets wanted. Must be that they are fine with any of the top three QBs (Darnold, Rosen and Allen?) or have a firm understanding that the Giants will not be trading the pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: If Beane whiffs on a QB this year he should be fired, I don’t care what else he does. This is really it - he has the amunition and there is no excuse. His predecessor was too tentative about the QB position and got canned. Ah, no. No he should not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Fetou said: Something tells me if the Giants were trying to trade out of #2, the Jets would have aimed for that. I have a strong feeling that the Giants are taking a QB. Or the Giants know the Bills have offered a better deal than the Jets could have. For the Jets, if they love 3 QBs, this gets them one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 My only hope is that they tried to get to two, but the Giants told them someone is already offering them more for the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Is buddy running our draft ? Wake up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Well your wrong. Who Allen or Jackson? LOL This is 04 all over again. For me, the only QB's worth a damn are Mayfield, Rosen or Darnold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 We can always draft a QB next year. Hey you never know if AJ end up being our guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: Cleveland: Likely taking Darnold Giants: Rosen, Mayfield Jets: Rosen, Allen, Mayfield Broncos: Allen, Mayfield or Jackson Bills: Leftovers We are doing 2004 all over again. You have to get the top guy. You are definitely an elite poster my friend... It's amazing how many people don't remember 2004. I saw people saying they wanted the Bills to stay at 12 and draft defense, then get whatever QB is left at 22. They can not accept leftovers. Or they need to abort this year and kick the can down the road to getting to the top in the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, sodbuster said: My only hope is that they tried to get to two, but the Giants told them someone is already offering them more for the pick. The Giants would also never let the other team in town get a QB at their original pick. What if he ends up being a stud? The fanbase would implode. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: Ah, no. No he should not. He absolutely should. Have the lessons of history not been absorbed? There is no “we tried” - get it done or find a new job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Yep. We are talking franchise QB. No price is too much, but you have to be right. IDK. If you asked my right now today if I rather have Ray Lewis or Joe Flacco I'd choose Ray Lewis. Because I don't see these QB as much more than Flacco or Matt Ryan I would not give up an entire draft for them. JMO. Edited March 17, 2018 by CuddyDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Anyone consider that the Browns at 1 and Giants at 2 don't want to move to 12 or let alone trade at all? Im sure Beane tried for #3 but 12 was probably too far to trade back or the cost too high. I don't like our QB situation. I think this staff thinks they can win with a 2nd teir QB and I hate that. Move to 2 and take the guy you think is the franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Wilk Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: And with that the Jets select Josh Rosen. Let them have him, gaurentee he can't play in the weather. If we can get Allen or Mayfield we're golden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: I think we might be looking at Rudolph or 2nd tier guys now. The Jets F'ed up the price. They gave up a 1st and 3 2nd round picks to move up just 3 spots. With that kind of price to pay, now the Giants are going to command a damn fortune. I'm not happy about this at all. As I said late last week, teams like Denver and the Jets offer more value because the Giants and the Colts can still get their guy and "rape" them for picks. That's exactly what happened here. The Colts are still going to get Chubb if that's who they want and they just stacked the deck. Yeah. That's why we needed or still need to try to work a deal to #7 or #8. That way if we trade to #1 or #2 the Browns or Giants can still get an elite player that will fall with all the Qbs being taken in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: Dumb on their part. Now the Bills or another team can jump to 2. Unless the Giants aren't willing to trade number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, mattynh said: IF the giants are willing to trade. Why would they not take a qb? Because of a guy named Eli. If the Bills think there's a guy they have to have they'll use the capital they need to use to get him. Or it may be they think a guy like Rudolph has as much potential as say Rosen. My bet is still they move up to get Rosen. But if not then they'll still take a guy they like in round 1 and get a stud MLB at 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This is an odd trade to make before the draft has actually started. This is only works for the Jets if they really really like 3 QBs, otherwise they are settling for the 3rd QB off the board. I just can’t see them ranking 3 QBs equally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: 3 2nd round picks to move up 3 spots? Yowza And their first don't forget that. They gave up 4 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: And with that the Jets select Josh Rosen. My gut feeling is they want Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 expect Denver to do something similar at #2 bills only hope is with Clev at #4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rico said: You snooze, you lose. Better get Gettleman on the phone. You think Beane is snoozing? He knows exactly what he's doing. Look at what the Jets paid to move from 6 to 3. Now imagine what the Colts were asking from the Bills. Should have gotten Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This reminds me of 2004 when the Bills were going to draft Rothlisburger and Pittsbugh took him two spots before us. Grrrrrrr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 To get to #2 it will now take #12,22, next years number 1, and maybe even a bit more. Beane has to put his bug boy pants on now if they want Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Because of a guy named Eli. If the Bills think there's a guy they have to have they'll use the capital they need to use to get him. Or it may be they think a guy like Rudolph has as much potential as say Rosen. My bet is still they move up to get Rosen. But if not then they'll still take a guy they like in round 1 and get a stud MLB at 12. Eli Manning is 37 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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