Billsfan1972 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 $16,000,000/yr...... Said I'd return to post...... Now the Bills know the market value and excited about a new QB..... Outta here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I assure you that nobody remembers what your said, or cares. Congrats to Sammy on a big contract. Congrats to us for stealing a 2nd round pick from the Rams for a player that overvalued himself out of town. 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Rigotz said: I assure you that nobody remembers what your said, or cares. Congrats to Sammy on a big contract. Congrats to us for stealing a 2nd round pick from the Rams for a player that overvalued himself out of town. Did he overvalue himself? He just got $16M a year!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Rigotz said: I assure you that nobody remembers what your said, or cares. Congrats to Sammy on a big contract. Congrats to us for stealing a 2nd round pick from the Rams for a player that overvalued himself out of town. We have bum QBs and bum recievers, we showed him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Bills wouldn't have paid him that so glad we got the pick for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Elite talent gets paid. His production hasn’t been elite, but people have eyes. Sammy, Tyreek and Kelce. Wow. Setting up Maholmes to succeed 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 definitely well overpaid by KC.. For that kind of money I would expect Sammy to avg 100 catches a season 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 These new salaries are unreal. Five dudes from Sammy's WR class now making north of $15M per year. That used to be franchise QB money a few years ago, now they pay it to a guy that's averaged 750 yards per season in his first four years. And $30M of it is guaranteed Brady's 2005 contract was 6 years, $10M per year, $28M guaranteed. Sammy just got guaranteed more than Brady did for HALF the amount of years, even after Tom had two rings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Was shocked too. His agent earned his keep. That’s Mike Evans type annual money. Lets see what KC gets out outta him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Elite talent gets paid. His production hasn’t been elite, but people have eyes. Sammy, Tyreek and Kelce. Wow. Setting up Maholmes to succeed Didn't we spend lots of collateral to set up EJ Manual to succeed. How that work out Guess KC is going to see what they have in Mahommes..... It is really all on his shoulders now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Andy Reid will use Sammy. He’s going to get 8-10 targets a game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Andy Reid will use Sammy. He’s going to get 8-10 targets a game. Reid is the only guy who could likely use Sammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Talent...yes. China doll...also yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 this is starting to be a joke. i have no idea why some people are beating their chests over this. why...because you predicted sammy would get paid and he did? big deal. i feel it's the same people who were complaining the loudest about the trade are the ones who are trying to take this as a win for their side. it's really not. the bills were smart to trade sammy for a second. there was zero possibility that they were going to pony up this kind of money. kc decided to overpay for production at this point. the bills made the right decision, and the people that screamed the loudest were really just wasting their time. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Didn't we spend lots of collateral to set up EJ Manual to succeed. How that work out Guess KC is going to see what they have in Mahommes..... It is really all on his shoulders now They’re setting him up for success........not sure what this has to do with the Bills and Ej Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, NewEra said: They’re setting him up for success........not sure what this has to do with the Bills and Ej We moved up in the draft to select Watkins to give EJ a chance to succeed. Basically the same thing KC is trying to do for Mahommes using the same WR we spent draft picks on to move up and grab. really you don't remember this ? Just thought it was ironic that we grabbed Watkins then for the same reason KC is signing him now... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: These new salaries are unreal. Five dudes from Sammy's WR class now making north of $15M per year. That used to be franchise QB money a few years ago, now they pay it to a guy that's averaged 750 yards per season in his first four years. And $30M of it is guaranteed Brady's 2005 contract was 6 years, $10M per year, $28M guaranteed. Sammy just got guaranteed more than Brady did for HALF the amount of years, even after Tom had two rings. Ya but even back then Tom was all about "Team Friendly" deals to ensure decent talent around him....AND more rings.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, teef said: this is starting to be a joke. i have no idea why some people are beating their chests over this. why...because you predicted sammy would get paid and he did? big deal. i feel it's the same people who were complaining the loudest about the trade are the ones who are trying to take this as a win for their side. it's really not. the bills were smart to trade sammy for a second. there was zero possibility that they were going to pony up this kind of money. kc decided to overpay for production at this point. the bills made the right decision, and the people that screamed the loudest were really just wasting their time. Except the guy who started this thread isn't doing that and just admitted he was wrong. So not sure why you are telling him this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: They’re setting him up for success........not sure what this has to do with the Bills and Ej Because Whaley did the same thing. Set up an unproven second year QB to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, teef said: this is starting to be a joke. i have no idea why some people are beating their chests over this. why...because you predicted sammy would get paid and he did? big deal. i feel it's the same people who were complaining the loudest about the trade are the ones who are trying to take this as a win for their side. it's really not. the bills were smart to trade sammy for a second. there was zero possibility that they were going to pony up this kind of money. kc decided to overpay for production at this point. the bills made the right decision, and the people that screamed the loudest were really just wasting their time. Damn right....... I was the first and was told I was dead wrong and had nop idea what I was talking about. Now TBD is calling the trade to Rams a success, because a receiver get's paid????? What backwards thinking is that? You pay for talent and could have had Watkins last year and tied him up at a better price if the Management staff did think it through. Now is the thought process for the Bills to draft a QB and put no weapons around him? Edited March 13, 2018 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Reid is the only guy who could likely use Sammy. That is if Sammy can stay on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Sammy was my favorite Bill, but I find it funny that everyone is saying how it's going to be tough to double him with Tyreek on the other side when the guy played across from Goodwin and Tavon Austin, who are just as competent as long ball threats. The key to managing Watkins is similar to the way Kelvin Benjamin has to be coached: outside plays along the sidelines, no over the middle stuff. Do what Martz did with Issac Bruce and Tory Holt--catch it and step out of bounds, save your body for the next play even though it means giving up some yards. These guys are not durable, they're not Robert Woods or Baldwin, they aren't built for contact. Otherwise you'll be in the training room all year and play half the games if you're lucky. Good luck covering them though..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I assure you that nobody remembers what your said, or cares. This is rather harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Is he talented yes. But not a lot of super stars play on three different teams in three years. KC just paid near Antonio Brown money for someone who may be good someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Except the guy who started this thread isn't doing that and just admitted he was wrong. So not sure why you are telling him this. Why? Because he was one of the ones screaming loudest against the trade. He even went as far as telling us that the reasons Watkins numbers weren’t special was because Goff was a worse qb than tt, and that Goff was being coached not to throw to Sammy. The bills did the right thing by trading Sammy and getting the 2nd. The people that won’t admit that they were wrong about criticizing the trade, are the same ones who are excited they guessed his contract correctly. Big !@#$ing deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, teef said: Why? Because he was one of the ones screaming loudest against the trade. He even went as far as telling us that the reasons Watkins numbers weren’t special was because Goff was a worse qb than tt, and that Goff was being coached not to throw to Sammy. The bills did the right thing by trading Sammy and getting the 2nd. The people that won’t admit that they were wrong about criticizing the trade, are the same ones who are excited they guessed his contract correctly. Big !@#$ing deal. Guess I am confused by his post then...I thought he was saying he was wrong about Sammy as if he was one of his detractors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 At 16 million dollars per, I'd be looking for that guy to at the very least catch 100 balls, with 12 TDs for 1,400 yards...at the very least. Can he do it? We'll see, but I wouldn't pay that for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Guess I am confused by his post then...I thought he was saying he was wrong about Sammy as if he was one of his detractors. I don't think so. But in fairness to you, the OP writes in a strange language. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, ddaryl said: definitely well overpaid by KC.. For that kind of money I would expect Sammy to avg 100 catches a season Or even just get 1000 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: This is rather harsh. But also true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, ddaryl said: We moved up in the draft to select Watkins to give EJ a chance to succeed. Basically the same thing KC is trying to do for Mahommes using the same WR we spent draft picks on to move up and grab. really you don't remember this ? Just thought it was ironic that we grabbed Watkins then for the same reason KC is signing him now... Lol my bad. I thought you were, in a round about way, saying that it failed for us, why would it work for them. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, ddaryl said: definitely well overpaid by KC.. For that kind of money I would expect Sammy to avg 100 catches a season Well Tyreke hill is their #1 weapon and he costs 704k this year. Hunt/Ware combine for about what we just gave Ivory. Rookie QB. They can afford to overspend on a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Damn right....... I was the first and was told I was dead wrong and had nop idea what I was talking about. Now TBD is calling the trade to Rams a success, because a receiver get's paid????? What backwards thinking is that? You pay for talent and could have had Watkins last year and tied him up at a better price if the Management staff did think it through. Now is the though process for the Bills to draft a QB and put no weapons around him? Are you going to create multiple Watkins threads next season too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Guess I am confused by his post then...I thought he was saying he was wrong about Sammy as if he was one of his detractors. oh no. he was wildly upset by the trade. i get it, but he was over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, teef said: oh no. he was wildly upset by the trade. i get it, but he was over the top. I think wildly is an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 25 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Damn right....... I was the first and was told I was dead wrong and had nop idea what I was talking about. Now TBD is calling the trade to Rams a success, because a receiver get's paid????? What backwards thinking is that? You pay for talent and could have had Watkins last year and tied him up at a better price if the Management staff did think it through. Now is the though process for the Bills to draft a QB and put no weapons around him? do you not understand? sammy would have hit the open market, and do you really think the bills would have signed watkins, a guy who they were already lukewarm on, and didn't have great numbers, that kind of contract? they were able to get a 2nd for christ's sakes! well worth the trade. don't get me wrong...i'm glad for sammy. he doesn't have to worry about money anymore. 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think wildly is an understatement. he may have been the worst. i don't know why sammy getting a shockingly big contract proves anything for people. what if his numbers are average again next year? what excuses then. i think there's scenario where watkins can put up big numbers, but i'm not sure kc is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, teef said: do you not understand? sammy would have hit the open market, and do you really think the bills would have signed watkins, a guy who they were already lukewarm on, and didn't have great numbers, that kind of contract? they were able to get a 2nd for christ's sakes! well worth the trade. don't get me wrong...i'm glad for sammy. he doesn't have to worry about money anymore. You know if the Bills play the Chiefs in the playoffs....he's rooting for the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: You know if the Bills play the Chiefs in the playoffs....he's rooting for the Chiefs. where sammy goes, 1972 goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Didn't we spend lots of collateral to set up EJ Manual to succeed. How that work out Guess KC is going to see what they have in Mahommes..... It is really all on his shoulders now check your spelling manual ......)) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, teef said: where sammy goes, 1972 goes. And exactly what should the Bills pay for TALENT? Amazing that people here are patting themselves and management on the back for not paying a player the market price? How about if Buffalo tied up Watkins last year at a cap friendly price or franchised him? Again a bunch of fanboys getting excited over the draft and not what happens on the field....... Let's go 2025 Bills!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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