Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 With Alex Smith being traded to Washington who can we realistically trade tyrod to? After all he is a 3 time probowler , led us to the playoffs and "comparable" to Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, H2o said: Denver What could we get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Maybe a 4th, at most a 3rd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 They are probably shopping him for a 3rd. May settle for a conditional 4th if the process drags on. It's early, but it should get done. By doing so, not only do the Bills get an additional pick, but they eliminate one of the QB needy teams like a Denver from drafting a QB. Heightens their chances of one being avail at 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Maybe a 4th, at most a 3rd Better Than Nothing I Guess, Would Love A Second Though. Just now, dezertbill said: They are probably shopping him for a 3rd. May settle for a conditional 4th if the process drags on. It's early, but it should get done. By doing so, not only do the Bills get an additional pick, but they eliminate one of the QB needy teams like a Denver from drafting a QB. Heightens their chances of one being avail at 21. Why did the Redskins give up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 After hearing that Cleveland wanted to sign Smith (I think on his remaining 1 year contract) they may be serious about a 1 year Bridge while their high draft pick rookie sits for a year. TT actually may be a fit for them. They had a huge amount of turnovers last year and TT would get a handle on that. Also they have so many picks this year that they can't possibly have that many rookies sign on their team. They could easily give up a mid round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Better Than Nothing I Guess, Would Love A Second Though. Why did the Redskins give up? He may not have been their cup of tea. I think a team like Denver is a better fit. They need a QB who won't screw it up and allow the defense to win it. Tyrod can be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: With Alex Smith being traded to Washington who can we realistically trade tyrod to? After all he is a 3 time probowler , led us to the playoffs and "comparable" to Smith. Yeah, a three-time Pro Bowler, but that just doesn't mean much when it refers to a three-time replacement, never voted in. And comparable to Smith in style, but Smith is better, and this year was a great deal better. I'd love to see a trade, but again, there will only be a three-day window after the trade season opens and before his $6 mill roster bonus must be paid. That three-day window is going to be extremely problematic. It could be possible, but the window will likely limit the compensation if it actually happens. If they had time to hold onto him they could probably get maybe a 4th. As it is, knowing he's almost certain to be a free agent three days after he becomes available for trade, they're more likely to get a 6th, something around there. Edited January 31, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 41 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: With Alex Smith being traded to Washington who can we realistically trade tyrod to? After all he is a 3 time probowler , led us to the playoffs and "comparable" to Smith. Okay. In order to trade Taylor you have to pick up his option. You good with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: After hearing that Cleveland wanted to sign Smith (I think on his remaining 1 year contract) they may be serious about a 1 year Bridge while their high draft pick rookie sits for a year. TT actually may be a fit for them. They had a huge amount of turnovers last year and TT would get a handle on that. Also they have so many picks this year that they can't possibly have that many rookies sign on their team. They could easily give up a mid round pick. Now we're talking, Cleveland has so many picks they would easily part with some (just like Tim Murray did ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. In order to trade Taylor you have to pick up his option. You good with that? Couldn’t we agree to a trade before that? The Chiefs just did 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Virgil said: Couldn’t we agree to a trade before that? The Chiefs just did Well Smith is signed for 2018. Taylor is a free after unless you pick up his option. Whose going to trade you for someone they could just wait and sign? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, a three-time Pro Bowler, but that just doesn't mean much when it refers to a three-time replacement, never voted in. And comparable to Smith in style, but Smith is better. I'd love to see a trade, but again, there will only be a three-day window after the trade season opens and before his $6 mill roster bonus must be paid. That three-day window is going to be extremely problematic. It could be possible, but the window will likely limit the compensation if it actually happens. If they had time to hold onto him they could probably get maybe a 4th. As it is, knowing he's almost certain to be a free agent three days after he becomes available for trade, they're more likely to get a 6th, something around there. Why do we have a 3 day window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Now we're talking, Cleveland has so many picks they would easily part with some (just like Tim Murray did ) Ha, wouldn't it be nice to be on the plus side of a EXGMTM type trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. In order to trade Taylor you have to pick up his option. You good with that? Sure, as long as we have a trade partner it won't matter anyway. Just now, ColoradoBills said: Ha, wouldn't it be nice to be on the plus side of a EXGMTM type trade! Definitely, he did such a great job acquiring assets but then pissed them away like a night in Vegas. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I think Jacksonville would be interested. He put up all of 100 yards on them. Who wouldn't want him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, kdiggz said: I think Jacksonville would be interested. He put up all of 100 yards on them. Who wouldn't want him? They plan to keep Bortles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: With Alex Smith being traded to Washington who can we realistically trade tyrod to? After all he is a 3 time probowler , led us to the playoffs and "comparable" to Smith. 3x probowler? when? I do know he got 2 invites, but not this year? He's not comparable to Smith this year either. Smith played like his jock was on fire and passing would put it out. By the time they told him they meant "pissing", he'd racked up >4000 yds and 26 TDs. Tyrod's 2800 yds and 14 TDs really don't compare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 We can probably trade him to the Panthers for Kaelin Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Why do we have a 3 day window? Just the way the contract is written. The league year opens for trade business on 14 March, the $6M roster bonus is due on 16 March. 32 minutes ago, Virgil said: Couldn’t we agree to a trade before that? The Chiefs just did Sure. We just need a buyer. 31 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well Smith is signed for 2018. Taylor is a free after unless you pick up his option. Whose going to trade you for someone they could just wait and sign? I think you're misremembering last year. Taylor is signed for 2018. He has a roster bonus due 2nd day of the league year, but it's not an option, he's signed. But, a trade partner may think "yeah, they're gonna cut him rather than pay, we'll wait" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just the way the contract is written. The league year opens for trade business on 14 March, the $6M roster bonus is due on 16 March. Sure. We just need a buyer. I think you're misremembering last year. Taylor is signed for 2018. He has a roster bonus due 2nd day of the league year, but it's not an option, he's signed. But, a trade partner may think "yeah, they're gonna cut him rather than pay, we'll wait" That’s what some thought the chiefs would do. I think there will be a market for Tyrod. It may only be a 3rd or a 4th, but he’s better than what else is out there and he’s cheap. I think the odd man out in Minnesota will get more than 18 mil. Problem is, if I’m the Bills, do I really want to risk not getting my QB in the draft, losing TT, and having no one besides Peterman and some 10 mil guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, dezertbill said: They are probably shopping him for a 3rd. May settle for a conditional 4th if the process drags on. It's early, but it should get done. By doing so, not only do the Bills get an additional pick, but they eliminate one of the QB needy teams like a Denver from drafting a QB. Heightens their chances of one being avail at 21. And who do you see as an upgrade over Tyrod? What if our new OC feels he could make Tyrod a quality starter? He has potential, has shown flashes , but has no consistentcy. Tyrod could potentially stay. I just don't see many upgrades. Even if we draft a 1st Rd QB, keep Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Why do we have a 3 day window? Trades can't be made till the NFL year opens on 3/14. And on 3/16, Tyrod's due a $6 million roster bonus if he's still on the roster. If they trade him, it'll almost certainly have to be within that very small window. 54 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 3x probowler? when? I do know he got 2 invites, but not this year? He's not comparable to Smith this year either. Smith played like his jock was on fire and passing would put it out. By the time they told him they meant "pissing", he'd racked up >4000 yds and 26 TDs. Tyrod's 2800 yds and 14 TDs really don't compare. Ah, I hate it when I make a mistake like that. You're right, it's two-time, not three-time. Good post. Edited January 31, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Nobody is trading for a QB that's a poor passer who's due $16M in cash in '18. If we had him locked in for like $12M or less I could see maybe getting a 6th round pick in '19, something like that, but at $16M there will be no takers. Don't forget Tyrod shopped himself last yr. and no one bit at the price the Bills offered, as evidenced by him coming back on a reworked deal, and he was available without having to give up any draft pick compensation. So why would there be a team now that would trade a pick and pay the $16M after what was a much worse statistical season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: I think Jacksonville would be interested. He put up all of 100 yards on them. Who wouldn't want him? I heard on NFL Network that Jacksonville is set on Bottles 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 3x probowler? when? I do know he got 2 invites, but not this year? He's not comparable to Smith this year either. Smith played like his jock was on fire and passing would put it out. By the time they told him they meant "pissing", he'd racked up >4000 yds and 26 TDs. Tyrod's 2800 yds and 14 TDs really don't compare. I heard right here on this Board that he was 3x probowler so it must be true 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Dude you're ruining his trade value Edited January 31, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: That’s what some thought the chiefs would do. I think there will be a market for Tyrod. It may only be a 3rd or a 4th, but he’s better than what else is out there and he’s cheap. I think the odd man out in Minnesota will get more than 18 mil. Problem is, if I’m the Bills, do I really want to risk not getting my QB in the draft, losing TT, and having no one besides Peterman and some 10 mil guy? Sure we win two games and draft Jake Fromm from Georgia 42 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Trades can't be made till the NFL year opens on 3/14. Um Chiefs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I will be surprised if he has any trade value. Taylor will probably end up being a backup for Watson or Wilson next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I think it's more likely Taylor gets cut,why would someone trade for him if they know Buffalo is desperate to trade him before the deadline? Even if some team does I doubt it's for more than a late round pick imo, there is no comparison when talking about Tyrod and Smith, there is completely 0, Smith isn't even an elite QB and he is light years better than Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, billspro said: I will be surprised if he has any trade value. Taylor will probably end up being a backup for Watson or Wilson next year. Arizona could want him. 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I think it's more likely Taylor gets cut,why would someone trade for him if they know Buffalo is desperate to trade him before the deadline? Even if some team does I doubt it's for more than a late round pick imo, there is no comparison when talking about Tyrod and Smith, there is completely 0, Smith isn't even an elite QB and he is light years better than Taylor. Let it be known that we are keeping him but will trade for the right price. Edited January 31, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: After hearing that Cleveland wanted to sign Smith (I think on his remaining 1 year contract) they may be serious about a 1 year Bridge while their high draft pick rookie sits for a year. TT actually may be a fit for them. They had a huge amount of turnovers last year and TT would get a handle on that. Also they have so many picks this year that they can't possibly have that many rookies sign on their team. They could easily give up a mid round pick. Yes Cleveland please in a massive move up the draft for Darnold... or Mayfield. 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, a three-time Pro Bowler, but that just doesn't mean much when it refers to a three-time replacement, never voted in. And comparable to Smith in style, but Smith is better, and this year was a great deal better. I'd love to see a trade, but again, there will only be a three-day window after the trade season opens and before his $6 mill roster bonus must be paid. That three-day window is going to be extremely problematic. It could be possible, but the window will likely limit the compensation if it actually happens. If they had time to hold onto him they could probably get maybe a 4th. As it is, knowing he's almost certain to be a free agent three days after he becomes available for trade, they're more likely to get a 6th, something around there. The Chiefs just traded Alex Smith... why do we have to wait until March to trade him or negotiate to trade him if we want? Why can't we trade him tomorrow? 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. In order to trade Taylor you have to pick up his option. You good with that? You do? 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well Smith is signed for 2018. Taylor is a free after unless you pick up his option. Whose going to trade you for someone they could just wait and sign? The other team would be responsible for picking up his option at that point, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. In order to trade Taylor you have to pick up his option. You good with that? Why do you? Trade the contract to Arizona as is and let them think about the option. For all the people saying "but three day window"..... do you not think that applies to the Smith trade too? Teams work these things out in advance of the league year all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I don't think that there will be any trade market for Taylor. Remember he could have been a FA last offseason and his agent judged his market value so low that he took a reduced deal to stay with the Bills. His performance last year did not increase his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 With his contract VS. his performance? What NFL team honestly would trade anything? Tyrod will be straight cut on the Ides of March........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 alex smith has 66 wins over the last 6 years. Taylor can't hold his jock. No team wants Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrip Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Tyler Steege @TSteegeNFL Age: Kirk Cousins: 29 Alex Smith: 33 4,000 yard seasons: Kirk Cousins: 3 Alex Smith: 1 Total TD passes last 3 seasons: Kirk Cousins: 81 Alex Smith: 61 The #Redskins just traded FOR an older QB who isn’t even as good as their current QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Tyrod will have more demand than people think. I also wouldn't be surprised if Tyrod restructures his deal to take less money again from a team that wants him. I don't think he will get us more than a 4th-5th round pick, but I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Okay. In order to trade Taylor you have to pick up his option. You good with that? Not necessarily, right? Doesn't the roster bonus (or whatever bonus is owed) vest on the third or the fourth day of the league year? In that event, the trade could be accomplished after the opening of the league year but before the Bills would become liable for the roster bonus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: With Alex Smith being traded to Washington who can we realistically trade tyrod to? After all he is a 3 time probowler , led us to the playoffs and "comparable" to Smith. 3 time probowler? I thought he made it to 2 (as an alternates alternate) 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Why did the Redskins give up? I believe it was a 3rd 6 hours ago, Estro said: Nobody is trading for a QB that's a poor passer who's due $16M in cash in '18. If we had him locked in for like $12M or less I could see maybe getting a 6th round pick in '19, something like that, but at $16M there will be no takers. Don't forget Tyrod shopped himself last yr. and no one bit at the price the Bills offered, as evidenced by him coming back on a reworked deal, and he was available without having to give up any draft pick compensation. So why would there be a team now that would trade a pick and pay the $16M after what was a much worse statistical season? Denver might. Jax might, Az might. Are the JETS dumb enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 If the NFL had a 8th rd pick we might be able to trade Taylor for a 8th rd pick and a years worth of Mighty Tacos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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