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[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Remember all the happy talk about Chudzinski and McD last week?

 

Chudzinski is from Ohio, no west coast connections. With that clue and using process of elimination I think it has to be Mike Sullivan.

[BringBackFergy]

47 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

I love this term “keyboard bully”!!  I am

picturing this guy:

 

[Magox]

1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said:

Will be deleting all posts but did want to share one last piece of information.  Stadium will be open air. Will seat 67,000

I know I am not appreciated here

 

If I could recommend something; try not to take things such to heart.  Develop thicker skin for the message boards.  

 

With that said, I'm willing to give what you say a hear and what you say is definitely intriguing. you have to understand that you just can't expect to have cred without some of these things coming to fruition.  Some posters have gained cred because of their sources and they didn't gain that cred until some of the things had happened. 

 

I hope you keep sharing info and we'll see how they turn out.

[HappyDays]

I'm reposting what I wrote in his other thread because I think it is correct.

 

Dunkirk Don said:

 

If they sign cousins or believe in peterman , Dennison stays.   One wild card in the decision, current employed offensive coordinator is in the mix.  Possible the team he works for, the entire staff will be fired.  If he becomes available,  bills will make a strong wrong at him.  Biggest hurdle is location.  Guy and family are left coast people.  Hard sell but would make him oc and assistant head coach

 

My guess is Mike Sullivan from the Giants. Born and raised in California and likely to be fired along with their whole staff. He was in Tampa Bay from 2012-2013 so McDermott would be familiar with him. He was Eli Manning's QB coach in the 2010 and 2011 seasons which were 2 of his best years including the Super Bowl win.

[Billsfan1972]

And that is why Dennison has to go.  Getting excited and thinking you can build around a 5th round rookie and thinking you have the next Brady and just so much smarter the 31 other teams who did not in 5 rounds draft him tells me he is clutching at straws.  

 

Frankly I am not one who places blind faith in what could be in 2022.  I am the here and the present and this was a .500 team prior to the season (2014, 2015 & 2016) and minimal tweaks should have gotten them 2+ wins......

[GoBills!]

Heres the scoop; Bills may draft a Qb if they can't get one of the 2-3 Qb's they like via trade/ free agency. Coordinators will be evaluated after the season. And the stadium will be built based on public funding vs private funding sometime after 2020.

 

 

See I did it! I didn't stay at a holiday Inn but russ brandon does have a lake house on the same lake as us.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 hour ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Thank you, Mrs. Whaley. Your insider insight is much appreciated. 

 

What happened to you, brah?  You used to be beautiful.

[Teddy KGB]

20 minutes ago, GG said:

 

These things usually come out in the wash. 

 

I just don't understand the penchant to immediately jump on a poster who claims to have inside info.  

 

This, the attackers sound like jealous 12 year old girls.  

3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

And that is why Dennison has to go.  Getting excited and thinking you can build around a 5th round rookie and thinking you have the next Brady and just so much smarter the 31 other teams who did not in 5 rounds draft him tells me he is clutching at straws.  

 

Frankly I am not one who places blind faith in what could be in 2022.  I am the here and the present and this was a .500 team prior to the season (2014, 2015 & 2016) and minimal tweaks should have gotten them 2+ wins......

 

Can’t judge him until Taylor’s gone,  A decisive qb with a quick release is what’s needed.

[Steptide]

Couple things here that are interesting also. Assuming this post is accurate, McDermott must've either thought Tyrod would be terrible in this system and we wouldnt have more than 4 or 5 wins and be able to draft a qb high. Or, McDermott had faith that Tyrod had enough talent to adjust to the system and would be a good qb. I think what we've seen is somewhere in the middle. Tyrod has been good at times but horrendous at other times. In some way our current record is McDermott's worst nightmare. 

[essential]

2 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said:

The only qb the Bills think is worthy of first round pick is darnold but they realize we don’t have the capital to get him.  Darnold is the only QB that has the arm and size to throw in weather conditions in Buffalo.

 

ugh
Kirk Cousins
Nathan Peterman
Josh Allen
C.J. Beathard
Teddy Bridgewater
Sam Bradford
Case Keenum

 

Not exactly my QB Christmas wish list.  Yesterday you posted Tyrod will start the rest of the way no matter what the win/loss is the rest of the year but have also said Tyrod is gone no matter what, likely to Denver.  If they want to make a decision on whether or not to move forward on Peterman he's going to need to play this year, and I don't see why he wouldn't play if Tyrod is gone and we are eliminated from the playoffs.

 

C.J. Beathard was drafted in the third round of the 2017 NFL Draft.  How could we be considering him as a backup?  He's on the first year of his rookie deal and was a third round pick.  Unless SF is going to trade him and we're giving up a decently high pick?

 

I'd rather give Peterman a shot or take a shot with Allen or a rookie, I have no interest in Cousins (for the money he'll command) or Bridgewater/Bradford/Keenum.  If the staff is so concerned with arm and size to throw in weather conditions in Buffalo in terms of draft picks, I don't get why we'd be considering Bradford or Bridgewater.  They both have short area accuracy but don't have great arm talent by any means.

 

Not picking on you at all Don, I appreciate your posts from an entertainment standpoint even if nothing turns out to be true, but there are conflicting and illogical statements.  Either way it's fun to engage in this kind of stuff.  I do hope you're wrong about the stadium being open air, blah.

[Teddy KGB]

The new bridge has wheels 

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap3000000838206/Can-t-Miss-Play-C-J-Beathard-goes-62-yards-to-the-house

 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2017 by Air it out Fitzy

[BillsFan130]

I appreciate you sending the info. Right or wrong, it's entertaining and gets us talking and thinking

[SoCal Deek]

Dunkirk Don?

 

You do realize that nobody on here knows who the heck you are....right? If you're going to enter a chat room and then demand respect and recognition of your self proclaimed authority you may need to slow down a bit.

 

Keep posting Don.  It's only a chat room for heavens sake!

[Yav]

I don't understand some of you posters. 

 

If you don't like whats being shared or you don't believe the poster to be honest or have true inside info then why are you reading the post in the first place?

Then you come in and post something trying to call the posters out and make fun of them. All you're doing is keep the post active. Get over it and move on. Don't open the post, don't read the post and don't reply to the post. 

 

It's a public board where any member can start a thread and should be able to enjoy a conversation over said thread. Seriously are some of you that miserable in your life that you feel the need to get on the internet, hide behind a keyboard and start crap on a message board? 

[BillsFan130]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Dunkirk Don?

 

You do realize that nobody on here knows who the heck you are....right? If you're going to enter a chat room and then demand respect and recognition of your self proclaimed authority you may need to slow down a bit.

 

Keep posting Don.  It's only a chat room for heavens sake!

He's probably frustrated because he's trying to do us a favour by sending us juicy info and people are just ripping on him.

 

If what he's saying is true, I would be pissed as well and wouldn't bother posting anymore

[bigK14094]

Cousins is ok, but I am not warm to that idea......he will cost at least what David Carr got.....$25mil a year for 5 years.  Seems like a bad risk to me........

Trading TT to Denver might be ok, but need a qb then, as Petermann is all about opinions..no on field performance since college.  5 ints, head first dive for concussion...this guy is really a rookie....needs time to mature...Farve had a couple of years to sit before he played and was great...same with Aaron Rogers....played in year 4 I think...3 years behind Farve.

[Heavy Kevi]

2 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said:

Will be deleting all posts but did want to share one last piece of information.  Stadium will be open air. Will seat 67,000

I know I am not appreciated here

 

It is not true that you "aren't appreciated".

 

Some folks are skeptical, as you might imagine, because you are an unknown.

 

Keep posting, and if it turns out to be true, and you have real sources, you will get credibility. If not, not so much. But even then it will have made for a lively debate.

 

Surely you understand it's alot to believe that it's a real source and not some kid making this stuff up. Like I said before, there's only one way people believe you, and that will take time. If the source is real, thanks for sharing. We would love to have a source close to the inner circle (which, if true, your source must be) for info and be the first to know.

[Heitz]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Dunkirk Don?

 

You do realize that nobody on here knows who the heck you are....right? If you're going to enter a chat room and then demand respect and recognition of your self proclaimed authority you may need to slow down a bit.

 

Keep posting Don.  It's only a chat room for heavens sake!

 

Right? 

 

I don't mind the fantastical "insider info"  (though I don't blame anyone for being skeptical, this regime has been notoriously tightlipped - and this is a LOT of SPECIFIC info), but when you say "I'm leaving I'm not appreciated", you're losing me.  I don't get any pats on the back for my amazingly funny quips, yet I come back to the coal mine day after day to keep on digging...

 

I do hope some of this is true though - I like what I'm hearing.

 

Also, just TELL us where the new digs are!

 

 

[xxxxxxxx]

21 minutes ago, Yav said:

I don't understand some of you posters. 

 

If you don't like whats being shared or you don't believe the poster to be honest or have true inside info then why are you reading the post in the first place?

Then you come in and post something trying to call the posters out and make fun of them. All you're doing is keep the post active. Get over it and move on. Don't open the post, don't read the post and don't reply to the post. 

 

It's a public board where any member can start a thread and should be able to enjoy a conversation over said thread. Seriously are some of you that miserable in your life that you feel the need to get on the internet, hide behind a keyboard and start crap on a message board? 

Absolutely. People in organizations also have different opinions, and they often have to play politics to protect their jobs, so anyone assuming that the information passed on has to be 100 percent correct or else the poster is faking it has, more likely than not, never worked in a large, professional organization before,  where rumors about management decisions circulate regularly. Good boards moderate such behavior and ban such comments, as they really hurt the fan community as a whole. 

 

I really, truly could give a crap if you think someone's inside information sounds false or not. 

Edited December 13, 2017 by MURPHD6

[Wayne Arnold]

In light of McDermott's press conference this morning, so far Dunkirk Don's info is 100% on point. Peterman is still in concussion protocol, Tyrod will get the snaps and "is the team's starting quarterback when healthy."

[TBDlurkerSINCE07]

Come back, Don. I appreciate you!

[BrooklynBills]

50 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I'm reposting what I wrote in his other thread because I think it is correct.

 

Dunkirk Don said:

 

 

 

 

My guess is Mike Sullivan from the Giants. Born and raised in California and likely to be fired along with their whole staff. He was in Tampa Bay from 2012-2013 so McDermott would be familiar with him. He was Eli Manning's QB coach in the 2010 and 2011 seasons which were 2 of his best years including the Super Bowl win.

 

Would be a terrible hire. Would rather keep Dennison. Giants offense is a complete **** show and has regressed over the last 3 years.  You would not need to give this guy a AHC title to get him here.  Also, this guy might be from California but has coached in NY/NJ for a long time so he doesn't strike me as a left coast guy.

 

This sounds like Scott Linehan to me, DAL OC. His specialty is the passing game. Very experienced. Dallas could clean house and finally move on from Garrett. He's spent his career mostly out west, the south, or Miami. Has the credibility/experience to warrant an AHC title.

 

[MAJBobby]

I can confirm that the Bills really like Cousins and Darnold. However what i have been told Rudolph is also well liked in the Scouting Department along with Rosen. Yes they also like Allen. 

 

 

Tying to get anything on Dennison from my friend is like pulling teeth. 

 

However my other Buddy that works for another Organization says there is a general feel around the league that Dennison will be fired 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2017 by MAJBobby

[xxxxxxxx]

34 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Dunkirk Don?

 

You do realize that nobody on here knows who the heck you are....right? If you're going to enter a chat room and then demand respect and recognition of your self proclaimed authority you may need to slow down a bit.

 

Keep posting Don.  It's only a chat room for heavens sake!

Asking for respect isn't something that fans of the same team who want to discuss that team should have to do. There are some bad seeds on this board who seem to get off on insulting people whose opinions don't meet their narrow idea of what football should be. They are the problem, not the poster.

[Happy]

2 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said:

Will be deleting all posts but did want to share one last piece of information.  Stadium will be open air. Will seat 67,000

I know I am not appreciated here

Keep posting.  Some of us are interested in what you have to say.  Ignore those who are not.

[HappyDays]

12 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said:

Would be a terrible hire. Would rather keep Dennison. Giants offense is a complete **** show and has regressed over the last 3 years

 

I don't think Sullivan has anything to do with that. McAdoo was running the show. Their offensive line is worst in the league, receivers are injured, and Eli is old. If you're going to bring in Kirk Cousins it makes a lot of sense to get the guy that coached Eli Manning in his best seasons.

 

9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I can confirm that the Bills really like Cousins and Darnold. However what i have been told Rudolph is also well liked in the Scouting Department along with Rosen. Yes they also like Allen. 

 

 

Tying to get anything on Dennison from my friend is like pulling teeth. 

 

However my other Buddy that works for another Organization says there is a general feel around the league that Dennison will be fired 

 

 

 

Ask your source about Mike Sullivan if he knows anything

Edited December 13, 2017 by HappyDays

[Mat68]

Paying a QB 30 mil a year, you are saying he is good enough to win you a superbowl.  I dont see that with Cousins.  I think he would give us the best chance to make the Playoffs and if the Brady and Big ben retire he may get us to a Superbowl.  I dont see him beating any of the guys in the NFC.  There are 5 guys that really intrigue me that could come out this year.  Rosen and Darnold are the cream of the crop.  Rosen is best thrower of the Football and can make any throw you want with accuracy.   My #1 priority would be to go after which ever one of those guys dont go #1.  With the recent success of the 49ers I expect the top two teams to be both QB needy.  Plan B I would first kick the tires on Andrew Luck.  If he is available for trade I would roll the dice to get him.  He is a better Qb than anything available.  I would hope for a Drew Brees type recovery.  If he is not attainable I would shift my attention to whoever I determine is the next guy below Rosen or Darnoald.  I think that could be any of the following Jackson, Mayfieled, or Jackson.  This is really personal preference and who do you trust more.  I think of the 3 trade possibilities the 3rd option would cost the least but another Qb would need to be on the roster to remove any forced action if the guy isn't ready week 1.   

[PaattMaann]

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I can confirm that the Bills really like Cousins and Darnold. However what i have been told Rudolph is also well liked in the Scouting Department along with Rosen. Yes they also like Allen. 

 

 

Tying to get anything on Dennison from my friend is like pulling teeth. 

 

However my other Buddy that works for another Organization says there is a general feel around the league that Dennison will be fired 

 

 

 

dear god no on Rudolph....hope its only the scouting department and stops with the GM/Coach. I don't get whats to like with Rudolph. Product of a pass happy, spread, QB friendly offense/coach, with the best WR corp in college football for two years now. Mahomes was at least reading defenses and going through progressions...noooooooo to Rudolph

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't think Sullivan has anything to do with that. McAdoo was running the show. Their offensive line is worst in the league, receivers are injured, and Eli is old. If you're going to bring in Kirk Cousins it makes a lot of sense to get the guy that coached Eli Manning in his best seasons.

 

 

Ask your source about Mike Sullivan if he knows anything

 

Will do. Just warning you he has been very Hush Hush about Dennison. 

 

I will ask my buddy in the other Organization if the general thought around the league is Dennison Canned what is the thought toward replacement 

[Wayne Arnold]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't think Sullivan has anything to do with that. McAdoo was running the show. Their offensive line is worst in the league, receivers are injured, and Eli is old. If you're going to bring in Kirk Cousins it makes a lot of sense to get the guy that coached Eli Manning in his best seasons.

 

I'd prefer someone young and creative but as long as they replace Dennison, I'm willing to give anyone a chance. Dennison has failed.

[essential]

38 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Take a shot on ANY of the top QBs. If you like a guy go get him. Don't sit on your hands and wait till the next round(Like this franchise has done forever).

 

Hope the info is false.

 

I'd be fine with that if they were all one year deals.  In any of these cases (besides Peterman or a rookie), you're likely making multi-year big dollar investments.  You can't do that with an average QB, and while Cousins may be above average he's not on the level his contract is going to demand. 

Edited December 13, 2017 by essential

[BrooklynBills]

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I can confirm that the Bills really like Cousins and Darnold. However what i have been told Rudolph is also well liked in the Scouting Department along with Rosen. Yes they also like Allen. 

 

 

I kind of like the Cousins idea with all the cap room and early picks we have.  We currently have about 54 million of free cap next year and that includes almost 20 mil for Taylor.

 

Could surround him with weapons and wait for a talented but developmental type QB to drop to us in another less hyped draft year, a la Bridgewater/Jimmy G/Carr. It'll be big money but it's not a lifetime contract. We have can take an offensive player in each of the first 3 rounds and still add 2 starters on D.

[Wayne Arnold]

4 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Paying a QB 30 mil a year, you are saying he is good enough to win you a superbowl.  I dont see that with Cousins.  I think he would give us the best chance to make the Playoffs and if the Brady and Big ben retire he may get us to a Superbowl.  I dont see him beating any of the guys in the NFC.  There are 5 guys that really intrigue me that could come out this year.  Rosen and Darnold are the cream of the crop.  Rosen is best thrower of the Football and can make any throw you want with accuracy.   My #1 priority would be to go after which ever one of those guys dont go #1.  With the recent success of the 49ers I expect the top two teams to be both QB needy.  Plan B I would first kick the tires on Andrew Luck.  If he is available for trade I would roll the dice to get him.  He is a better Qb than anything available.  I would hope for a Drew Brees type recovery.  If he is not attainable I would shift my attention to whoever I determine is the next guy below Rosen or Darnoald.  I think that could be any of the following Jackson, Mayfieled, or Jackson.  This is really personal preference and who do you trust more.  I think of the 3 trade possibilities the 3rd option would cost the least but another Qb would need to be on the roster to remove any forced action if the guy isn't ready week 1.   

 

Cousins can absolutely win you a Super Bowl. 

 

Rosen is soft and doesn't have the love for football or chip on his shoulder to be great. I like Darnold's potential but he needs a lot of work and won't be close to ready to carry a team right away. 

[BigBuff423]

20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I can confirm that the Bills really like Cousins and Darnold. However what i have been told Rudolph is also well liked in the Scouting Department along with Rosen. Yes they also like Allen. 

 

 

Tying to get anything on Dennison from my friend is like pulling teeth. 

 

However my other Buddy that works for another Organization says there is a general feel around the league that Dennison will be fired 

 

 

 

Wait for it....they'll be running you out of here with torches and pitchforks....

 

Although, personally I appreciate the info / validation....regardless of accuracy, the effort is appreciated.

[Happy]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

Cousins can absolutely win you a Super Bowl. 

I don't know on Cousins.  I keep thinking back to week 17 Redskins vs Giants last year where he threw the pick in the end zone, which ended the game and the Redskins chances of making the playoffs.  Maybe Cousins learned and moved on from that, but maybe not.  Just seems like he's kind of a risk and not worth what he'll be commanding as far as salary.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, GG said:

 

Remember all the happy talk about Chudzinski and McD last week?

 

No, refresh my memory.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Dunkirk Don?

 

You do realize that nobody on here knows who the heck you are....right? If you're going to enter a chat room and then demand respect and recognition of your self proclaimed authority you may need to slow down a bit.

 

Keep posting Don.  It's only a chat room for heavens sake!

in today's  terminology  they are now called a Forum 

 

Queue the commercial with the  young teen  -  Whats a Chat Room  

[HappyDays]

12 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

I'd prefer someone young and creative but as long as they replace Dennison, I'm willing to give anyone a chance. Dennison has failed.

 

I'm ok with Dennison getting a year with Cousins if that's what it comes to. The run game has looked better the past few games when Tolbert isn't on the field, and Tyrod isn't able to execute what he wants done in the passing game.

[BillsFan130]

4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

I don't know on Cousins.  I keep thinking back to week 17 Redskins vs Giants last year where he threw the pick in the end zone, which ended the game and the Redskins chances of making the playoffs.  Maybe Cousins learned and moved on from that, but maybe not.  Just seems like he's kind of a risk and not worth what he'll be commanding as far as salary.

I'm with you on that. I think he is an above average QB, but I don't think I would pay him 25-28 mil per year or whatever the rate is now.

 

He makes beautiful throws but has flaws in his game. The first one that comes to mind is untimely interceptions

[Wayne Arnold]

2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

I don't know on Cousins.  I keep thinking back to week 17 Redskins vs Giants last year where he threw the pick in the end zone, which ended the game and the Redskins chances of making the playoffs.  Maybe Cousins learned and moved on from that, but maybe not.  Just seems like he's kind of a risk and not worth what he'll be commanding as far as salary.

 

Even the great ones can fall short. No one is undefeated. Rodgers has only won a single Super Bowl. Brady has lost two Super Bowls and should've lost a third before the Russell Wilson pass at the goal line. You haven't seen Eli Manning and Joe Flacco throw interceptions? They suck and have three rings between them.

 

Cousins is in just his third season as a starter in the NFL. In his first season he finished 5th in passer rating, 7th in DYAR, 6th in QBR. His second season - 3rd in DYAR, 6th in QBR, 3rd in total passing yards.

 

The guy is a stud. We should throw a parade if Cousins ever puts on a Bills jersey.