N.Y. Orangeman Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/30309/sean-mcdermott-defends-players-after-jim-kelly-questions-response-to-hit Why does Jim insert himself into every situation with this team? It's embarrassing and ridiculous. He has managed to make the national media 2x this year. Please go away, Jim. You retired 20 years ago and are of absolutely no relevance to this franchise going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I haven't read or listened to exactly what he said, but his general position is correct. McDermott's response is symbolic of the Bills consistently bending over and spreading them for the Patriots. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hughes vs Kelly part deux coming to a theater near you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I agree with Jim and Aaron Williams that the Bills should have retaliated against Gronkowski. IMO, this is worse than the Milan Lucic hit on Ryan Miller. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I haven't read or listened to exactly what he said, but his general position is correct. McDermott's response is symbolic of the Bills consistently bending over and spreading them for the Patriots. He may be right (I tend to agree). However, this isn't about right/wrong. This is about Jim and his ridiculous ego and what he thinks he means to the franchise today. Again, he is trying to create wedge issues with the team. Go hunting, Jim....actually, go anywhere. Edited December 4, 2017 by N.Y. Orangeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I think the takeaway is that the players all should have attacked Gronk while singing the national anthem. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: I think the takeaway is that the players all should have attacked Gronk while singing the national anthem. Or kneel on his neck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 soft team. "defend your dirt"..."family" this, "family" that... but when it boils down to it, you allow the player that just injured your star rookie, walk away. please. i've been over McD and his cliches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hughes vs Kelly part deux coming to a theater near you Just stand in the pocket Jim, Hughes never gets around the edge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I haven't read or listened to exactly what he said, but his general position is correct. McDermott's response is symbolic of the Bills consistently bending over and spreading them for the Patriots. thats hilarious dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, 87168 said: soft team. "defend your dirt"..."family" this, "family" that... but when it boils down to it, you allow the player that just injured your star rookie, walk away. please. i've been over McD and his cliches The only dirt this Bills team is defending are their collective "dirt chutes". Although they are doing a poor job at that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Jim Kelly > Tryhard and these cream puffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Glad I am not the only one sick of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He is right. Who will speak for us if he doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 There's Kelly being a big flopping DB again. How people have ever liked him or looked at him as a role model is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, DisplacedBillsFan said: There's Kelly being a big flopping DB again. How people have ever liked him or looked at him as a role model is beyond me. I figure it is on account of he played good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 29 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/30309/sean-mcdermott-defends-players-after-jim-kelly-questions-response-to-hit Why does Jim insert himself into every situation with this team? It's embarrassing and ridiculous. He has managed to make the national media 2x this year. Please go away, Jim. You retired 20 years ago and are of absolutely no relevance to this franchise going forward. Not surprised by his response. I think if you ask any ex-NFL player they'd tell you the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, BadLandsMeanie said: I figure it is on account of he played good. Winning excuses all else I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Jim is correct. Gronk should have been pummeled by the 10 remaining players on the field. You must defend your teammates when they are subjected to such a cheap shot. He could have done permanent neck or spinal damage. I thought the culture of the team was changing when they cleared the bench to celebrate a first down. Now they allow cheap shots. Soft team going nowhere fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said: Winning excuses all else I suppose. I don't think it excuses all else. The Pats are an example of that. It answers the question of why would people listen to a leader of the only team to go to the Superbowl 4 times in a row. A team that was known for their resilience. Guys who are still friends to this day. So when he mentions something about how a team should act to be a team, it makes perfect sense to consider his opinion. It does not make any sense to say, what does he know? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don't know how I feel about my team responding and retaliating in yesterday's game. I really don't know. What I do know are my feelings regarding Jim Kelly, and that is that I don't care what he has to say about the current state of the bills. He needs to stop this or politely decline to answer or give a boring response. I don't think he's doing a service to the team by making those comments. I can only see how the comment could hurt the team (and I don't think it truly 'hurts' the team, but it is divisive), and I can't see how that helps the current team and organization in any way. He can say the things he does as that is his right, I just disagree with doing so. Should I assume that Jim's best interests are the teams best interest? Probably not. And has he done a tremendous amount of good in the community? Of course. Just fatigued from this kind of thing which I'm sure is a direct result of the fatigue caused by being a Buffalo Bills fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 They'll get another shot at Gronk in a few weeks. We'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gomper said: They'll get another shot at Gronk in a few weeks. We'll see what happens. You get revenge by winning the game. Nothing would satisfy me more than winning that Game and taking the high road and thus make the Pats and Gronkowski bad. Edited December 4, 2017 by Woodman19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I'm with Jim. Don't have to be dirty but take a stand. Show some support for your guy who took a cheap shot. It was like a bully hit us and we didn't do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: He may be right (I tend to agree). However, this isn't about right/wrong. This is about Jim and his ridiculous ego and what he thinks he means to the franchise today. Again, he is trying to create wedge issues with the team. Go hunting, Jim....actually, go anywhere. ....naw he's just appeasing his "buying group" in the event Pegula pulls the plug......he sweeps in as the new Owner (prolly has the check written-COUGH) and saves the day............. Edited December 4, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 stand up for your teammates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 54 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: I agree with Jim and Aaron Williams that the Bills should have retaliated against Gronkowski. IMO, this is worse than the Milan Lucic hit on Ryan Miller. Who will be the Bills version of Paul Gaustad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said: Who will be the Bills version of Paul Gaustad? Forget that, we need the boogyman, rayzer, may, and Barnaby. This 96 Sabres team was horrible, didn't make the playoffs, but nobody, I mean NOBODY messed with them: Also, the "hardest working team in hockey" parlayed this team building suckitude into an outstanding team from 98-01. Now, if the Bills could only get their version of Hasek... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Get a life OP, you sound disgruntled because an icon of the franchise won't go away like you want. He can say whatever he wants and he's earned it. Amazing how jealous some of the younger posters are who missed the glory years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, Corp000085 said: Forget that, we need the boogyman, rayzer, may, and Barnaby. This 96 Sabres team was horrible, didn't make the playoffs, but nobody, I mean NOBODY messed with them: Also, the "hardest working team in hockey" parlayed this team building suckitude into an outstanding team from 98-01. Now, if the Bills could only get their version of Hasek... Boy was that an entertaining team to watch... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 This whole mess can be made good if someone has the balls to take corrective action on Gronk in the next game. If that happens, none of this crap matters. If it does not happen, I hope it blossoms into a big thing, b/c this team cannot let Gronk's actions go unpunished. And I'm not talking about some freaking suspension issued by the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Count me among those sick of Kelly. Love him as a football player and ambassador for Buffalo. But tired of his interjection in everything with everyone going to him for sound bites like he IS the organization and city and the fans. Wish him nothing but health and prosperity but STFU already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, 87168 said: soft team. "defend your dirt"..."family" this, "family" that... but when it boils down to it, you allow the player that just injured your star rookie, walk away. please. i've been over McD and his cliches It's important to avoid STUPID penalties (like Gronk's). Having your teammate's back is not a stupid penalty especially given the game situation. The outcome was not in doubt, so taking a 15 yard penalty to establish the unity of your team would not detract from a chance to win. I'm not saying anyone had to come in and start a Crabtree type brawl, but a shove and making it clear that he cannot do that to one of ours would deliver a far better message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 53 minutes ago, gomper said: They'll get another shot at Gronk in a few weeks. We'll see what happens. No they will absoloutley not......its the part of this stupid process remember...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/30309/sean-mcdermott-defends-players-after-jim-kelly-questions-response-to-hit Why does Jim insert himself into every situation with this team? It's embarrassing and ridiculous. He has managed to make the national media 2x this year. Please go away, Jim. You retired 20 years ago and are of absolutely no relevance to this franchise going forward. Because he cares. It may be a long time since he played but he's still a Buffalo area resident and a Bills' fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, BadLandsMeanie said: He is right. Who will speak for us if he doesn't? He is right and some of these melenials are all butt hurt that he speaks out. He's more than earned the right to say his peace. Especially when he's 100% right. Yesterday was a joke and an embarrassment with the way our soft players sat on their hands. Maybe someone will have the stones to go after Gronk in 3 weeks. Probably not. They'll just line up after the game for Tom's autograph. Edited December 4, 2017 by LABILLBACKER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, familykwi said: It's important to avoid STUPID penalties (like Gronk's). Having your teammate's back is not a stupid penalty especially given the game situation. The outcome was not in doubt, so taking a 15 yard penalty to establish the unity of your team would not detract from a chance to win. I'm not saying anyone had to come in and start a Crabtree type brawl, but a shove and making it clear that he cannot do that to one of ours would deliver a far better message. exactly. i'm not looking for anyone to square up...but even a little lip service or shoving. all they did was stand there and point like "ooooh, i'm telliiiiin'!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don't blame him for criticizing the lack of response. Any team that I ever played on would have had Whites back on that play. The Bills took the high road and how did that work out? Somehow they were the team that was penalized 15 and had to start 1st and 25. What would have been different if someone retaliated? McDermott and the Bills come away looking soft which is not a good look for a football team. At least they were good sports and got the moral victory. When do they award the Moral Victory trophy? I feel McD Bills could win multiple years and become a moral dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I agree with him 100%. The only thing worse than the hit was the players standing around looking for a flag, you're playing the pats, there's no flags coming. Hit the guy that knocked your player out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, 87168 said: exactly. i'm not looking for anyone to square up...but even a little lip service or shoving. all they did was stand there and point like "ooooh, i'm telliiiiin'!" Exactly, if the game was close I could understand, but the game was over and they allowed that neanderthal to do that to their young star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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