YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, Boatdrinks said: I'm assuming that means 3-4 weeks from the date of the injury or subsequent surgery, not from today? Correct, injury occurred 11/19 so 3-4 weeks from there, guessing it could be sooner based on McD comments. Not sure how severe it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Torn meniscus isn’t good news, but it’s not a “serious” injury. He’s already missed two weeks, and I suspect he will miss 2 more. The fact that he hasn’t had to have his knee scopes to clean up the meniscus suggests to me that it’s a minor tear. I’ve torn the meniscus in both my knees throughout my sports career. One of them needed to be scoped. No biggie. Was back to full swagger in less than a month. No pain or swelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It's not too bad, honestly. My wife just had it and my boss just had it. They haven't had great experiences, but certainly it depends on the extent. Microfracture is the worst-case scenario, if I recall correctly. Edited November 27, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: My wife just had it and my boss just had it. They feel differently! If KB didn't have surgery, it sounds like he's having mild symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, jmc12290 said: If KB didn't have surgery, it sounds like he's having mild symptoms. Yep, could be. It depends on the extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 56 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Wow. That's a bad injury--make no bones about it. Not really. it's pretty common to tear cartilage and not even need surgery... https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/torn-meniscus/symptoms-causes/syc-20354818 "A torn meniscus is one of the most common knee injuries. Any activity that causes you to forcefully twist or rotate your knee, especially when putting your full weight on it, can lead to a torn meniscus. Each of your knees has two menisci — C-shaped pieces of cartilage that act like a cushion between your shinbone and your thighbone. A torn meniscus causes pain, swelling and stiffness. You also might feel a block to knee motion and have trouble extending your knee fully. Conservative treatment — such as rest, ice and medication — is sometimes enough to relieve the pain of a torn meniscus and give the injury time to heal on its own. In other cases, however, a torn meniscus requires surgical repair." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 This team simply can't catch a break. But at this point is there any real reason to not shut down Benjamin completely for the rest of the season? It's not like this team is going to the playoffs and it's time to start thinking about next year and beyond which Benjamin is obviously going to be a part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Lurker said: Not really. it's pretty common to tear cartilage and not even need surgery... https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/torn-meniscus/symptoms-causes/syc-20354818 "A torn meniscus is one of the most common knee injuries. Any activity that causes you to forcefully twist or rotate your knee, especially when putting your full weight on it, can lead to a torn meniscus. Each of your knees has two menisci — C-shaped pieces of cartilage that act like a cushion between your shinbone and your thighbone. A torn meniscus causes pain, swelling and stiffness. You also might feel a block to knee motion and have trouble extending your knee fully. Conservative treatment — such as rest, ice and medication — is sometimes enough to relieve the pain of a torn meniscus and give the injury time to heal on its own. In other cases, however, a torn meniscus requires surgical repair." I've been influenced by its impact on people in my real life. It's been some tough sledding for them, but again, it really depends on the extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 IF he's good to go, trot him out there. If ever there was a game for all hands on deck, Sundays game seems like it could be the one. Unless, "the deck" is on the Titanic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21588923/kelvin-benjamin-torn-meniscus-right-knee-buffalo-bills-say-wr-day-day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 This is becoming the Curious Case of Benjamin's Meniscus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 what's our consensus on Kelvin Benjamin? I think he's immediately our best receiver on the roster, but that's not saying much, and his best season has been his rookie year, barely scratched 1000 with Cam Newton, pre ACL tear. I hope he can get healthy soon and develop a rapport with Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 This thread is now OBE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: This is becoming the Curious Case of Benjamin's Meniscus. I think it's time for a nick name for the young lad .... Benjameniscus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I've had a meniscus tear for a couple years and can still play beer league softball on it. Ipso fatso Kelvin Benjamin should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 He did tear it. McD misspoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/27/sean-mcdermott-refutes-report-that-kelvin-benjamin-has-torn-meniscus/ Yeah, as Art said and the article above explains, he does indeed have a torn meniscus. The Bills confirmed it. McDermott thought they said torn ligament, which is why he refuted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I've been influenced by its impact on people in my real life. It's been some tough sledding for them, but again, it really depends on the extent. It also depends greatly on a person’s age/physical wellness. Grandma ain’t doing the jitterbug for a long time after tearing her meniscus. Not such a huge deal for a well-conditioned, young professional athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: It also depends greatly on a person’s age/physical wellness. Grandma ain’t doing the jitterbug for a long time after tearing her meniscus. Not such a huge deal for a well-conditioned, young professional athlete. The other factor is pain threshold. Suffice it to say that the people I know do not have the pain thresholds of NFL players. If I ever took an NFL hit, I'd be in traction for weeks. Edited November 27, 2017 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Lol McDermott may be trying to confuse the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: The other factor is pain threshold. Suffice it to say that the people I know do not have the pain thresholds of NFL players. If I ever took an NFL hit, I'd be in traction for weeks. Really? Your wife? Married to you? No pain threshold? Even after showing her statistics that since 1978, NYC wives have lost 52.71% of arguments with their husbands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 You can play with a torn miniscus, depending on the tear. Mostly it just feels funky. I played basketball with a torn miniscus for a while. It didn't slow me down but it was hard to get out of my mind because my knee just felt strange. I'm sure the docs are helping him figure out what's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Technically correct. The meniscus is considered cartilage. But calling it cartilage tear suggests a more serious injury. https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/knee-pain/cartilage-of-the-knee Edited November 27, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Torn knee bone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Doesn’t matter what you call it, the treatment is the same: amputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: Lol McDermott may be trying to confuse the Pats Or he just did what a lot of ppl do and tuned out the reporter when he heard tear and assumed the guy was saying ligament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Bills just confirmed he did...McD said he thought it was a question regsrding ligaments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks a lot Nate. This wouldn’t have happened if Tyrod was still the starter since Benjamin wouldn’t have even been targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The other factor is pain threshold. Suffice it to say that the people I know do not have the pain thresholds of NFL players. If I ever took an NFL hit, I'd be in traction for weeks. I coach HS lacrosse. A player of mine won 4 wrestling matches on his way to a state championship on a torn meniscus. He had surgery two days after the championship match, and 5 weeks later was a full participant on the lacrosse field without a problem (and his tear was moderate/severe). The kid is an animal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, SaviorPeterman said: This team simply can't catch a break. But at this point is there any real reason to not shut down Benjamin completely for the rest of the season? It's not like this team is going to the playoffs and it's time to start thinking about next year and beyond which Benjamin is obviously going to be a part of. You don't think Miami games and the Colts are winnable? 9 - 7 probably does make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Really? Your wife? Married to you? No pain threshold? Even after showing her statistics that since 1978, NYC wives have lost 52.71% of arguments with their husbands? Those statistics are most certainly wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, GG said: Those statistics are most certainly wrong. Well I don't know where he gets most of his anyway. He quotes acronyms that look like the gobbledygook that replaces cuss words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Thanks a lot Nate. This wouldn’t have happened if Tyrod was still the starter since Benjamin wouldn’t have even been targeted. Hahaha that reminded me of jm2009 blaming EJ for throwing Sammy into injury. Funny with the SW injuries post EJ. Edited November 27, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Do we know if it is DTD because of our inept training/med staff? Or is the tear a degree of severity where he could return with a fairly quick recovery? I'd imagine this is something that is relatively certain as to the severity that by this point they should know how long he'll be out (at least an estimate) Edited November 27, 2017 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ctk232 said: Do we know if it is DTD because of our inept training/med staff? Or is the tear a degree of severity where he could return with a fairly quick recovery? I'd imagine this is something that is relatively certain as to the severity that by this point they should know how long he'll be out (at least an estimate) Cordy Glenn has been described as "day-to-day" and has now missed his 3rd consecutive game. That should tell you something about Benjamin's availability. Edited November 27, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 KB won’t play this week or next.... Maybe week 15. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: Really? Your wife? Married to you? No pain threshold? Even after showing her statistics that since 1978, NYC wives have lost 52.71% of arguments with their husbands? More like 54.7 percent, but I won't niggle about the error. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Do we need two threads on Kelvin Benjamin's meniscus? One is enough, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Do we need two threads on Kelvin Benjamin's meniscus? One is enough, isn't it? Only this thread has the nickname Benjaminiscus though. As far as I know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Son of a bleeping bleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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