Again, how can a switch to Peterman be any worse?

[Green Lightning]

The loss today was not on him. WRs were MIA, Clay out early and the running game was shut down. Dennison offer no wrinkles or challenge the banged up Bengal secondary. Peterson will not do any better.

Not sure at this point. TT was flat out terrible today. NP will turnover the ball more but at least he'll throw the damn ball before a receiver is wide open and jumping up and down for the ball.

[Scott7975]

Trubisky has Chicago fans on crack just to see if they might have a franchise QB. They are giving him his 1st start on Monday night.

 

The Bears also have horrid offensive weapons that the QB before him couldn't utilize. The WR's on the Bears are not good but they have been open on more than a few plays where Glennon's poor field vision has killed the offense.

 

I'm pretty sure Peterman can pass for 190 and a TD right out of the gates.

I'm pretty sure in the last couple years you were begging to bring Glennon in here.

[Luka]

Might be a sorry looking group, but if Peterson can anticipate plays better it may help these guys out. Watching Tyrod, it makes me think he doesnt even know the routes these guys are running sometimes. Like hes just waiting for someone to break free and be completely open.

That's exactly what he's looking for. He can't read a defense, he can't anticipate a throw. It has ALWAYS been this way with him.

[BananaB]

I dont care at this point. Offense has been terrible. A game like today with 3 defensive turnovers and the punt returned inside the Bengals redzone our O cant settle for 16 points. Its that simple.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Switching to Peterman cant be any worse. Taylor's stats are almost ALWAYS the same regardless of who he has playing reciever.

 

It's time to make the switch

It could actually in fact be much, much worse.

[Perk71]

Not a Peterman lover. But Tyrod does suck. Why stick with suck. Give another one a crack at sucking.

For the record... I am old school, I even think platooning works if you can get past the way some players think.

Thanks for this post

[26CornerBlitz]

It could actually in fact be much, much worse.

 

People who pose a question like this must not have much football acumen.

[Scott7975]

Peterman can't run as fast as Taylor, put a slower QB behind our line and we may see manslaughter on the field.

On the flipside he gets rid of the ball faster. While I don't think Peterman would play any better than Tyrod, there are pros to his play that Tyrod doesn't have. There are pros to Tyrods play that Peterman doesn't have. I'm not advocating a switch. There is a reason the coaching staff continues to say Tyrod is our starter.

[fridge]

 

Not going to happen and shouldn't.

 

I agree that it's never going to happen. The defense had three big turnovers and a huge punt return, and the offense just did not step up. That last series has happened way too many times with Tyrod under center.

 

It's still very early, but at this point it's really just see what happens this season, then leverage our picks to try and get a franchise QB. Let him battle with Peterman in the offseason.

 

Edit: "try to get" added.

Edited October 8, 2017 by fridge

[Perk71]

I think it would be hard for a defense not to begin to build resentment towards a quarterback like Taylor. the defense has put us in a position to be 5-0 easily

I agree

[26CornerBlitz]

On the flipside he gets rid of the ball faster. While I don't think Peterman would play any better than Tyrod, there are pros to his play that Tyrod doesn't have. There are pros to Tyrods play that Peterman doesn't have. I'm not advocating a switch. There is a reason the coaching staff continues to say Tyrod is our starter.

 

There is not some blue chip rookie waiting in the wings to take this team to the promised land.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I'm for it, Tyrod is too inconsistent, some plays are awesome and others are terrible, can't win enough like that.

[fridge]

 

There is not some blue chip rookie waiting in the wings to take this team to the promised land.

 

 

They say this every year. Tyrod is also not going to take this team to the promised land. It's not really worth debating though. The franchise will make the right call here. For once I have faith.

[Putin]

What I fail to understand is why Tyrod is not taking off and running more. Is he being told to stay in the pocket and go through progressions? If so thats a big fail by Dennison. Tyrods game is taking off and running when things break down. Thats when he has success

Why is it so hard to understand??

I agree with Dennisn 100% , Tyrod had his ALL-STAR WR/TE healthy ready to roll , NICE WEATHER to throw the ball , on a day like today there was no reason to even try and run ,

[Albany,n.y.]

Not a Peterman lover. But Tyrod does suck. Why stick with suck. Give another one a crack at sucking.

 

For the record... I am old school, I even think platooning works if you can get past the way some players think.

If you're really old school, then Peterman shouldn't start for another 4 years.

[Steptide]

It could actually in fact be much, much worse.

How? Taylor averages 180 yards a game. Has he ever lead a 2 min drill to win a game? What has Taylor done that you think Peterman would be THAT much worse?

[MarlinTheMagician]

I like Peterman, but OP must be young. If you have not seen the likes of Dennis Shaw, Dan Darragh and countless others, you may not have a full appreciation of just how bad it could be. I do trust this admin to know if there is a point where it is likely Peterman can give us a better chance than TT. I don't think that is likely this year, but these guys should know if he is ready.

[Real McClappy]

It could actually in fact be much, much worse.

And on the flip with his quick release it could be much, much better.

[Scott7975]

 

There is not some blue chip rookie waiting in the wings to take this team to the promised land.

I never said there was, nor do I think there is.

How? Taylor averages 180 yards a game. Has he ever lead a 2 min drill to win a game? What has Taylor done that you think Peterman would be THAT much worse?

You don't watch enough NFL if you don't think it could get worse.

[26CornerBlitz]

I never said there was, nor do I think there is.

 

I was agreeing with your bottom line point of no QB change at this point.

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

What I fail to understand is why Tyrod is not taking off and running more. Is he being told to stay in the pocket and go through progressions? If so thats a big fail by Dennison. Tyrods game is taking off and running when things break down. Thats when he has success

I thought the same thing. He danced around as the middle of the pocket collapsed with Duckass in there. He had lanes to run. I'd like to see what the all 22 reveals but it seemed that TT left plays all over the field, whether it was a lane to run or an open receiver. I think he let the pressure and the rain get to him.

[Scott7975]

 

I was agreeing with your bottom line point of no QB change at this point.

Sorry, I misread your intent.

[PromoTheRobot]

If Taylor is the problem then Peterman might help. If the problem is the O-line, receivers or run game, then changing QB isn't going to help much, is it?

[Luka]

I never said there was, nor do I think there is.

You don't watch enough NFL if you don't think it could get worse.

Well he's current 28th in passing yards, with a guys like Case Keenum and Deshone Kizer ahead of him lol. So I guess it could get worse but it wouldn't be that much worse. Already bottom 5 in the league.

[26CornerBlitz]

Well he's current 28th in passing yards, with a guys like Case Keenum and Deshone Kizer ahead of him lol. So I guess it could get worse but it wouldn't be that much worse. Already bottom 5 in the league.

 

Plug Keenum or Kizer into the Bills' lineup and are they better?

Edited October 8, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz

[The Process]

Do I need to remind you who Peterman would have to be throwing to?

 

Without Charles Clay, he would be throwing to the worst group of receivers in the NFL.

 

Is it even fair to evaluate any QB in that situation?

 

Need I remind you this is a team sport?

 

Most good QBs in the NFL have a solid group of receivers and/or a dominant receiver (AJ Green) that can make 2 plays that will decide a game.

 

Sammy Watkins was finally healthy this season and Tyrod could have finally had a premium receiver that he could depend on being in the lineup every week.

 

But the Bills got rid of that for what looks like a very low first 2nd round pick.... because the LA RAms are playoff bound (and the Chiefs are the best team in the NFL too)

Peterman would be throwing to the worst receivers in the NFL who are often open on replays from higher angles!

[Magox]

They aren't considering Peterman.....

Yet.

 

TT still deserves to be the starter despite today's game.

[oldmanfan]

The coaching staff has shown they're about putting who they feel have earned the position on the field. Note Dareus and Glenn, with younger guys playing for them. I have no doubt if they feel Peterman would perform better that they'd start him.

[Boatdrinks]

It's no different now than at the start of the season. The HC won't go with a rookie unless there is an injury to TT or the record means the playoffs are essentially an impossibility. If anything the record means it will be even longer before any thought of a QB change.

Edited October 8, 2017 by Boatdrinks

[Scott7975]

Well he's current 28th in passing yards, with a guys like Case Keenum and Deshone Kizer ahead of him lol. So I guess it could get worse but it wouldn't be that much worse. Already bottom 5 in the league.

Yards are not the end all be all. Great so we throw in Big Ben who threw over 300 yards and walked away with 9 points getting killed by the Jags. Obviously Big Ben is leagues better than Tyrod is. My point is that yards don't mean jack. There are a lot worse QBs out there. Yes it can get worse. Jeff Tuel started a football game.

[Putin]

What I fail to understand is why Tyrod is not taking off and running more. Is he being told to stay in the pocket and go through progressions? If so thats a big fail by Dennison. Tyrods game is taking off and running when things break down. Thats when he has success

Really you fail to understand ? its very simple , Tyrod had TRASH for WR/TE on the field , the bad WEATHER / RAIN makes perfect sense to stay in the pocket and try to throw the ball 35 times

[BuffaloBillyG]

At the end of the day Taylor simply isn't a fit for this offense and what Dennison/McD are trying to do.

 

They have been fortunate to win with smoke and mirrors so far and I certainly don't blame Taylor for the injuries that are piling up right on cue this time of year in Buffalo, but at the end of the day you have to give your offensive skill players a chance and Taylor doesn't do that.

 

The book is out on this offense and the days of seeing McCoy and the running game go for 150+ a week are long over and not coming back until we can prove we can get the ball downfield and find guys in the middle open.

 

And once again Taylor proved he can't lead a 4th quarter comeback and turned the ball over the first chance he's actually taken in weeks. It's time for a change and both fans and the Bills organization is kidding themselves if they believe otherwise.

I do not like Tyrod as a player. I think he is severely limited in his passing ability, doesn't settle in the pocket and is way too tentative in throwing the ball.

 

That said, he is the best option we have on the roster right now. Peterman, a rookie who looked "ok" against 2nd team, 3rd team and fodder players in the preseason is not going to fare well.Some want to say...well Dak did it...but really it's no true comparison. Dak DOMINATED those low roster players whereas Peterman just looked "ok".

 

If we had a back up that had some experience I would fully endorse a switch. But putting a green rookie behind that line, with those receivers, with the running game getting stuffed and the play calling being iffy at best is a quick way to not win again this year.

[HuSeYiN_NYC]

You'd think we were 1-4....

Taylor did not play well but that doesn't warrant the hook.

Whatever our record is, none of the wins are because the offense played well...

 

Im not on this thread to see or ask for a change at QB, but a change being needed is a fact that can't be denied.

 

Change #1 - Fix the damn run game. I'm not a coach nor do i get paid to be one, but the ones who are getting paid and receive a paycheck from the Pegulas need to fix the run game.

 

Change #2 - Refer to change 1

 

It sucks that Tyrod never comes even close to throwing for 300 yards and rarely throws over 200, but the coaches aren't going to make a change at QB unless Tyrod has an injury, so we need to fix the issues he has (holding on to the ball and looking to scramble right away) and just move on.

 

O-line is horrible... I pray the coaches will move Dawkins to the right side if and when Cordy Glenn gets plugged back in at LT.

[26CornerBlitz]

The coaching staff has shown they're about putting who they feel have earned the position on the field. Note Dareus and Glenn, with younger guys playing for them. I have no doubt if they feel Peterman would perform better that they'd start him.

 

Glenn is strictly an injury situation with Dareus partially being the same. Anyone who thinks Peterman is a better option based on preseason with the available skill players on the team is delusional. It's a silly thought at this juncture of the season.

[KDIGGZ]

Tyrod is not a real NFL QB but at least he has the ability to scramble and make plays when there aren't any. Peterman would get killed. There was literally nobody to throw to on some plays. Zay Jones has bust written all over him. Klay shouldn't even be on a roster. Their best receiver was Tate who is a return specialist. That tells you all you need to know right there. No it's not Peterman time yet because we don't have a real offense for him to run

[Steptide]

Taylor had 39 yards in the 2nd half. THIRTY NINE. cannot be any worse with Peterman

[Bakin]

 

He's not played well for most of the season and without the defense playing over their heads we are probably 1-4 right now.

 

Taylor is a finished product and will be the reason this team doesn't make the playoffs assuming the defense keeps up but don't think that happens either because despite the turnovers they were lit up today.

Taylor has played well.

No big mistakes.

He's playing better than he should be - today we saw some extra wrinkles but he was without his top 2 receiving targets. Plus he had Vlad Ducasse on his line. Ducasse!!

 

I love how so many of you plan for the SUper Bowl after wins - and plan to kill yourselves after a loss.

It's pure comedy.

[26CornerBlitz]

Taylor had 39 yards in the 2nd half. THIRTY NINE. cannot be any worse with Peterman

 

It absolutely can under the same circumstances. Repeating that won't make it come true.

[purple haze]

At the end of the day Taylor simply isn't a fit for this offense and what Dennison/McD are trying to do.

 

They have been fortunate to win with smoke and mirrors so far and I certainly don't blame Taylor for the injuries that are piling up right on cue this time of year in Buffalo, but at the end of the day you have to give your offensive skill players a chance and Taylor doesn't do that.

 

The book is out on this offense and the days of seeing McCoy and the running game go for 150+ a week are long over and not coming back until we can prove we can get the ball downfield and find guys in the middle open.

 

And once again Taylor proved he can't lead a 4th quarter comeback and turned the ball over the first chance he's actually taken in weeks. It's time for a change and both fans and the Bills organization is kidding themselves if they believe otherwise.

Does a new offensive line come with the change at QB that you want? If not, same issues will occur.

[Scott7975]

Taylor had 39 yards in the 2nd half. THIRTY NINE. cannot be any worse with Peterman

It could be. Peterman could have 39 yards and 3 ints in the second half.