re enlightener Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Tolbert over J.Williams Remember all the game closing TD runs by K.Williams in 2015? then all of the game closing TD runs by Gillislee last year? Well this year we have fat, lumbering Tolbert running into the pile when we really need big plays. Last week he dropped an easy TD, this week he fumbled on a run. Both were bailed out by other players, notably Holmes catching Zay's miss for a TD and Dawkins recovering his fumble. But where are the big plays? or even the first downs? J. Williams was ripping off big runs in pre season and looked great, he would be doing the same in Denver if he wasnt behind 2 studs. McDermott is great but just doesnt believe in the electrifying skill players, im surprised he didnt trade Shady. Edited October 2, 2017 by re enlightener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Totally agree. McDermott has made a lot of good decisions, in and out of the game stuff. The Tolbert love is the one thing I think is glaringly bad. Tolbert should be on the team. I understand his usefulness in a bunch of roles. But he should not, at all, be getting all these backup RB carries that Karlos and Gillislee and (in preseason) Jwilliams was getting. It's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 100% agreed. We need J williams back. He looked really good in camp and pre season and letting him go made absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Yep. Bad decision IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 And they use him in dumb situations. They ran a draw play today on 2nd and 19, to TOLBERT. He has his usefulness in certain situations.... that is NOT one of those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The fact that it appears so straight forward makes you wonder what went on behind the scenes that no one knows of. Considering how many people here on this board totally wrote the Bills off, ripping practically every decision they made, shows that most here on this site know very little compared to what they think they know. Think I trust the Bills judgment more than those here who actually think they know anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The Bills can sign him off whatever practice squad he's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Remember all the game closing TD runs by D.Williams in 2015? Karlos Williams..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The Bills can sign him off whatever practice squad he's on. And should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 The fact that it appears so straight forward makes you wonder what went on behind the scenes that no one knows of. Considering how many people here on this board totally wrote the Bills off, ripping practically every decision they made, shows that most here on this site know very little compared to what they think they know. Think I trust the Bills judgment more than those here who actually think they know anything. i didnt. i thought theyd be better and backed tyrod even after carolina, my only rips this year were of Dennison not using play action, which he fixed, and this. i do know whats going on look up any post of mine. This is obviously a mistake, and 4 games in if you cant see it then you just dont want to see it. Karlos Williams..... no remember when duke williams scored 3 tds in one game?/ fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Totally agree. McDermott has made a lot of good decisions, in and out of the game stuff. The Tolbert love is the one thing I think is glaringly bad. Tolbert should be on the team. I understand his usefulness in a bunch of roles. But he should not, at all, be getting all these backup RB carries that Karlos and Gillislee and (in preseason) Jwilliams was getting. It's embarrassing. I always preface my takes regarding Tolbert with the appreciation I used to have for his game..........but he is a problem as the #2 RB........his skills have eroded and as noted in the broadcast he just isn't a patient enough runner for this scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhDozeBills Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 And they use him in dumb situations. They ran a draw play today on 2nd and 19, to TOLBERT. He has his usefulness in certain situations.... that is NOT one of those situations. Yup, said the same thing when they ran that play. Tolbert is fine for some of those quick hits up the middle, but he shouldn't be getting the ball more than 4-5 times a game. In no way should he ever be part of a draw play. Seeing that JWill is gone, would like to see Banyard get some of those opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) I think McD decided long ago he wanted Tolbert's "character and leadership" on the team, regardless of who had to be cut. But now that the team has jelled and we have a season here, maybe that will be rethought. Edited October 2, 2017 by BillnutinHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Im just not seeing it with Tolbert.... If the concern was fumbles...Tolbert is losing it just as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Definitely a head-scratcher. Tolbert is fine for what he is - a limited use battering ram. Williams was the better RB. Edited October 2, 2017 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Agreed on Tolbert. But J Will is just a guy. We could get him or anyone like him off about 30 practice squads. But surprised that they don't consider giving Taiwan Jones some touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Agreed on Tolbert. But J Will is just a guy. We could get him or anyone like him off about 30 practice squads. But surprised that they don't consider giving Taiwan Jones some touches. We have Jones. We should use him. I think JWill is a better RB than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Tolbert's chief problem seems to be that he thinks he's a RB, when in fact he's a FB. Sort of like the Saint Bernard that thinks he's a Greyhound.... Edited October 2, 2017 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Baynard. Why is he inactive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 At this point, I'm not arguing against McDermott. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The fact that it appears so straight forward makes you wonder what went on behind the scenes that no one knows of. Considering how many people here on this board totally wrote the Bills off, ripping practically every decision they made, shows that most here on this site know very little compared to what they think they know. Think I trust the Bills judgment more than those here who actually think they know anything. We all watch the games, Tolbert adds very little and he has been fairly ineffective for the last few seasons. It's one thing to question moves before any games are played, this isn't what we are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Agreed on Tolbert. But J Will is just a guy. We could get him or anyone like him off about 30 practice squads. But surprised that they don't consider giving Taiwan Jones some touches. Then we should get one of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 DeAngelo Williams is waiting by the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 DeAngelo Williams is waiting by the phone. Ray Rice is ready to go. He's been practicing punishing opponents by visiting the nearest elevator daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I know he was asking for tooooo much but AP would have been a perfect fit in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 He's a short yardage back at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Imo it would be A. Sammy Watkins B. Jonathan Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Honestly, to me its more about Taiwan Jones...meaning, hes a gifted runner and has time to learn Offense since they got him, give him a chance to run the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tolberts the slowest guy on the field and his power running is gone. Not to mention he almost fumbled away a drive that the entire offense worked their butts off for. He is worthless and its clear they cant afford to give mccoy a break.... god help us if he gets hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Ray Rice is ready to go. He's been practicing punishing opponents by visiting the nearest elevator daily. Bad comparison and bad joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Bad comparison and bad joke. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Totally agree. McDermott has made a lot of good decisions, in and out of the game stuff. The Tolbert love is the one thing I think is glaringly bad. Tolbert should be on the team. I understand his usefulness in a bunch of roles. But he should not, at all, be getting all these backup RB carries that Karlos and Gillislee and (in preseason) Jwilliams was getting. It's embarrassing. May be he brings that leadership skills that this team was devoid in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 His worst decision was extending Wood at $8M/year. It makes no sense anyway you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 IDK - the Bills are 3-1 and in first place and they've done that by beating teams that everyone is saying they can't beat and they are one completion from beating Carolina and a 4-0. So not sure how anyone can second guess the coach at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 what's up with Banyard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I'm trusting the process right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Ray Rice is ready to go. He's been practicing punishing opponents by visiting the nearest elevator daily. Yeah but can he go in the wrestling ring like Deangelo? We all know McD was a wrestler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 May be he brings that leadership skills that this team was devoid in the locker room.I said I want him on the team. He serves a purpose. He shouldn't get the backup carries that Karlos and Gillislee got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 And they use him in dumb situations. They ran a draw play today on 2nd and 19, to TOLBERT. He has his usefulness in certain situations.... that is NOT one of those situations. That draw play on 2nd and 19 had me screaming at the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Baynard. Why is he inactive? every week. i have no idea why either. color me confused as tell. there's definitely a place for tolbert for short, grind it out type yards, but what the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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