oldmanfan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Apparently there is a movement afoot to boycott games that day, the day after Veteran's Day. My daughter and I have planned to attend; it will be her first game ever at the stadium and is the only game she can get to because of rehearsals(she's an actor/singer and it's the one weekend she has free). Here's what we will do. We'll drive in the day before. We'll visit the site where her grandfather's ashes are kept and pay our respects to that Navy veteran. We'll get wings at Duff's and see her cousins. The next day we'll go to New Era and we'll shake the hands of veterans we see there and thank them for their service. We'll party at different tailgates. We'll stand and place our hands over our hearts when the anthem is played, and we'll respect the rights of players to kneel if they do choose even if we don't agree. Then we'll enjoy watching the Bills pound the Saints. Will you be with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) The "protesters" may sell their tickets, but the won't eat them. They will sell them and someone will buy them, the stadium will be full. Players are still going to get paid if the stadium is empty, tickets are mostly already paid for. I think everyone should stand on the seats for the anthem and sing as loud as possible, would send a better message. Edited September 27, 2017 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 So, now the affronted Trumpbots are going target veterans, attempting to disrupt the ceremonies the Bills regularly put on for military vets in honor of Veterans' Day in their pique that the NFL players and owners stood up to their draft-dodger hero and his bullying. Oh, yes! Anybody can claim they're boycotting anything on social media. My guess is that the loudest voices for boycotting the games come from those who don't have tickets to the games, including many who have probably never been to an NFL football game ... as well as those who have never served, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 So, now the affronted Trumpbots are going target veterans, attempting to disrupt the ceremonies the Bills regularly put on for military vets in honor of Veterans' Day in their pique that the NFL players and owners stood up to their draft-dodger hero and his bullying. Oh, yes! Anybody can claim they're boycotting anything on social media. My guess is that the loudest voices for boycotting the games come from those who don't have tickets to the games, including many who have probably never been to an NFL football game ... as well as those who have never served, either. other than the fact that not all veterans stand United, what should that matter to your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The "protesters" may sell their tickets, but the won't eat them. They will sell them and someone will buy them, the stadium will be full. Players are still going to get paid if the stadium is empty, tickets are mostly already paid for. I think everyone should stand on the seats for the anthem and sing as loud as possible, would send a better message. Fair points. NFL doesn't make it's money on attendance anymore anyway. I like the idea of standing and singing. To the OP, you don't have to justify "breaking the boycott". Do whatever you see fit, it is your perogative, and you should not miss an opportunity to see a game with your daughter because others want to boycott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Fair points. NFL doesn't make it's money on attendance anymore anyway. I like the idea of standing and singing. To the OP, you don't have to justify "breaking the boycott". Do whatever you see fit, it is your perogative, and you should not miss an opportunity to see a game with your daughter because others want to boycott. . Yeah. I was just wondering what others were thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 No way in hell I'm honoring that boycott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just curious... if you support the players protest and ridicule those who don't, should you criticize those who plan to protest against the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I must have missed something. Why are we protesting against veterans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) I must have missed something. Why are we protesting against veterans They hate America. Edited September 27, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 I must have missed something. Why are we protesting against veterans I think what folks are saying is they will boycott these games to support veterans, in that Veteran's Day is the day before and they feel veterans have been disrespected by the protests last week. I suspect each NFL team will be honoring veterans that Sunday, as will I when I see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I think what folks are saying is they will boycott these games to support veterans, in that Veteran's Day is the day before and they feel veterans have been disrespected by the protests last week. I suspect each NFL team will be honoring veterans that Sunday, as will I when I see them. Must be getting feeble in my old age. If I understand this then, On a week when the NFL is honoring veterans, those that support veterans are going to boycott the supporting ceremonies because there was a previous disrespect of said veterans at a protest that wasn't really about veterans per se. Either I am incapable of understanding the collective mindset of 2017 USA or the whole country has gone freakin' nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I think what folks are saying is they will boycott these games to support veterans, in that Veteran's Day is the day before and they feel veterans have been disrespected by the protests last week. I suspect each NFL team will be honoring veterans that Sunday, as will I when I see them. I love this idea of being offended FOR veterans. Not all veterans care and many that I have talked to support the right to protest but not all. That's the thing everyone can have their opinion on this and even voice it. That is what the flag represents. That is what the anthem represents. I stand and honestly get chills EVERY time I hear (which is quite often due to being a sports official). I don't really care if others do and definitely don't care to get upset on someone else's behalf. That is their right as an American period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Veterans, the flag and the national anthem were not disrespected no Matter what the Dotard and his minions say. IT was a protest to the comments he made about firing folks who kneel out of protest against the social injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 We'll get wings at Duff's and see her cousins Will you be with me? It depends which Duff's you are going to. If it's the Orchard Park Duff's, I'M IN!!! (love the waitresses there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 I love this idea of being offended FOR veterans. Not all veterans care and many that I have talked to support the right to protest but not all. That's the thing everyone can have their opinion on this and even voice it. That is what the flag represents. That is what the anthem represents. I stand and honestly get chills EVERY time I hear (which is quite often due to being a sports official). I don't really care if others do and definitely don't care to get upset on someone else's behalf. That is their right as an American period. I agree It depends which Duff's you are going to. If it's the Orchard Park Duff's, I'M IN!!! (love the waitresses there). Never been to the OP one. Grew up near Sheridan and worked at the McD's down the street so always went to the one on Sheridan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I must have missed something. Why are we protesting against veterans Because we're mad as hell, and we aren't going to take it anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Must be getting feeble in my old age. If I understand this then, On a week when the NFL is honoring veterans, those that support veterans are going to boycott the supporting ceremonies because there was a previous disrespect of said veterans at a protest that wasn't really about veterans per se. Either I am incapable of understanding the collective mindset of 2017 USA or the whole country has gone freakin' nuts. plus one. I don't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 This whole issue will blow over and be largely forgotten in 2 weeks. That game will be sold out and the stadium packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Because we're mad as hell, and we aren't going to take it anymore! Also I for one will be there. Birthday present was some great seats, and I won't be passing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 No way in hell I'm honoring that boycott. You Tell em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 No way in hell I'm honoring that boycott. no way. have a great time with your daughter old. i wouldn't let any of this nonsense stop you from making a fun memory. i can't tell you the number of times i fondly think back to games with family and friends. it's a game. have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I agree Never been to the OP one. Grew up near Sheridan and worked at the McD's down the street so always went to the one on Sheridan. Yeah, I grew up near the Sheridan one too. Went to Kenmore West in the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 This whole issue will blow over and be largely forgotten in 2 weeks. That game will be sold out and the stadium packed. I agree. If Buffalo is playing well it will be a sell out. If Buffalo doesn't win a game from now til than the stands may be empty. The only thing being protested would be the bad play on the field. Its easy for all of those Giants and Bengals fan to burn their season tickets in protest lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 People are so stupid. If they really believe the crap they are saying then they would just boycott all the NFL games and not just one. That includes not watching it on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Apparently there is a movement afoot to boycott games that day, the day after Veteran's Day. My daughter and I have planned to attend; it will be her first game ever at the stadium and is the only game she can get to because of rehearsals(she's an actor/singer and it's the one weekend she has free). Here's what we will do. We'll drive in the day before. We'll visit the site where her grandfather's ashes are kept and pay our respects to that Navy veteran. We'll get wings at Duff's and see her cousins. The next day we'll go to New Era and we'll shake the hands of veterans we see there and thank them for their service. We'll party at different tailgates. We'll stand and place our hands over our hearts when the anthem is played, and we'll respect the rights of players to kneel if they do choose even if we don't agree. Then we'll enjoy watching the Bills pound the Saints. Will you be with me? Sent you a PM Boycott buying anything Bills related till this is over. I still love my Bills, been a fan way to long to totally walk away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 boycott the boycotters, meanwhile enjoy the game. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Ho ho ho Chi Minh. My father was totally messed up from Vietnam. Be Antiwar altogether. Sister a nurse for air force. Horror stories all the way around. Paid global police for corporate power. Work with 100 vets. Mostly poor kids. Few options. Feel sorry for them. Universal soldier- Donovan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Ho ho ho Chi Minh. My father was totally messed up from Vietnam. Be Antiwar altogether. Sister a nurse for air force. Horror stories all the way around. Paid global police for corporate power. Work with 100 vets. Mostly poor kids. Few options. Feel sorry for them. Universal soldier- Donovan Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Must be getting feeble in my old age. If I understand this then, On a week when the NFL is honoring veterans, those that support veterans are going to boycott the supporting ceremonies because there was a previous disrespect of said veterans at a protest that wasn't really about veterans per se. Either I am incapable of understanding the collective mindset of 2017 USA or the whole country has gone freakin' nuts. The whole country has gone freakin' nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The whole country has gone freakin' nuts been going nuts last 12 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Ill be at that game with my daughter too. I dont anticipate doing anything different than I always do. Ill stand for the anthem, respect the people around me, and hopefully cheer on the Bills in a meaningful (?) game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Im watching for great seats at a great price. Im torn. As a Trump voter I would like to sow his mouth shut. As a conservative Id like to smack the kneelers. As a football fan I would like to congratulate their stand. What to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedGame Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Most of the veterans I know are decent people, and most of the athletes I know are decent people. If a member of the armed services were to introduce himself or herself to an athlete who knelt, the vast majority of athletes would likely say "Thank you for your service. I appreciate the sacrifices you, your families, and your brothers and sisters in service make for our freedom." And I betcha if an athlete who knelt were to walk over and introduce himself to a service member, the majority of service members would say "I will defend to my death your right to expression. Your choice to exercise the freedoms the Constitution affords you is a reminder of why I serve." The only people who act like utter a$&holes to each other are...the rest of us. Edited September 28, 2017 by WickedGame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Very well put....and a great plan. I would have never guessed it, but the NFL since last weekend is imposing a litmus test on fans (and non-fans) for racism. Because those doing the protesting have never so much hinted at any disdain for the military. Nor have they soiled, sullied, or otherwise denigrated the American Flag. They are simply bringing attention to the systematic institutional racism in this nation in total lockstep with the First Amendment. And most of the service men and women I've listened to state that they support the protests. They don't have to agree. Thats...ah...kind of what our Constitution is all about. It's the Constitution and our rights they were and are fighting for - and not for the rights of bigots to tell others what they should do. I actually saw a FB post where an individual (who perhaps no so coincidentally had a poor grasp of English spelling and Grammar) stated he would beat the s*%t out of anyone that did not respect the flag and our military dead. Incredible. SMH. A litmus test. And the results are terrifying. Edited September 28, 2017 by theRalph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The only thing not going to the game will do, is lose home field advantage. The only people benefitting from this are the owners - they've already made the money. Its a stupid move, please sell to me. I can't make many games due to location and I want to take my family. If you are boycotting, at least help one of your brethren out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Veterans, the flag and the national anthem were not disrespected no Matter what the Dotard and his minions say. IT was a protest to the comments he made about firing folks who kneel out of protest against the social injustice.Let's not get things twisted here. Those people are being hypocritical or they are just showing their true feelings that they will oppose Trump no matter what. He expressed HIS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, when he stated his opinion on what he thought should happen to anyone that kneels during the anthem. And in fact he is right considering it is in the NFL rules that the anthem will be played at every game, both teams will be present, the players will be standing along the sideline, facing the flag, and SHOULD be standing at attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Fair points. NFL doesn't make it's money on attendance anymore anyway. I like the idea of standing and singing. To the OP, you don't have to justify "breaking the boycott". Do whatever you see fit, it is your perogative, and you should not miss an opportunity to see a game with your daughter because others want to boycott. I hear this a lot about ticket money is not the big income NFL income source. What I can tell you is you are wrong. Very wrong. 2016 NFL avg ticket price is $172 avg stadium size is 67,861. Most stadium are sold out. So avg team makes $116,720,920 per season for tickets. I know they give 20% to visiting teams and take 20% when on road etc etc. It still calculates out the same. This $116 million does not include PSL, suite sales, club seats, etc... TV revenue is gigantic approx. 6 billion per year or $187.5 million. Other shared revenue brings this up to approx. $7.8 billion per year or $243.7 million. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/nfl-teams-shared-8-billion-2016-10-percent-increase/xq0olewhxo2d1a5mmrll4w4fz This ticket money is huge. Almost half of tv money. It is very very important and that is why NFL is concerned about potential attendance drop from protests and are afraid to do anything about it fearing more backlash if they try to curb it. Edited September 28, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Must be getting feeble in my old age. If I understand this then, On a week when the NFL is honoring veterans, those that support veterans are going to boycott the supporting ceremonies because there was a previous disrespect of said veterans at a protest that wasn't really about veterans per se. Either I am incapable of understanding the collective mindset of 2017 USA or the whole country has gone freakin' nuts.Not the whole country, just a certain vocal, ill-informed segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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