YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) @mikerodak Bills DE Jerry Hughes said Monday he does "not understand" why Jim Kelly is on the field before games, adding, "We are the 2017 Buffalo Bills. Were focused on the future. Were focused on winning games. If he wants to offer anything of encouragement to our team, to our quarterbacks, to our offense, please provide all of that. We could use all the encouragement we need to figure out how they won games back in those days and be successful as they were. But were trying to bring a team together, were trying to bring a community together, were trying to bring a nation together. And by dividing us, by dividing the team, that doesnt work." Edited September 25, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Best way to bring people together is to exclude those with a different view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Oh yes, the "he criticized our beliefs and that was wrong, so let me criticize his beliefs" argument. Â But the statement that he hid that sentiment behind has merit. I have wondered for a while what JK is doing on the sideline, or Ray Lewis in Baltimore, Jim Brown in Cleveland, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) not good.. dont like Hughes comment... like hughes.. dont like his BS after the whistle penalties.. best he just STHU.. No room for diversity Jerry? Edited September 25, 2017 by dwight in philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise Keep winning then they can do/say whatever they want. Â That's why Jim is on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I mean, everyone's opinion about this remark is going to be a reflection of how they feel about the whole kneeling issue. Â However, to the broader point, it is a little odd that we keep him around like we do. Buffalo is a special, tight community compared to other teams in bigger markets, but he doesn't really have a purpose on our sideline during games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise Makes sense. But fans will cling to our most recent success, and unfortunately for us, our most recent success was a generation ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise not blaming the messengerr .. but if true .. thats dumb Edited September 25, 2017 by dwight in philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise  Exactly. Time to forge ahead for the first time in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Hey if you can score sideline passes for every game  Why be somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I mean, everyone's opinion about this remark is going to be a reflection of how they feel about the whole kneeling issue. Â However, to the broader point, it is a little odd that we keep him around like we do. Buffalo is a special, tight community compared to other teams in bigger markets, but he doesn't really have a purpose on our sideline during games. Former NFL players are allowed field passes on a first come first serve basis up to the limit home teams allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I can see his point about wanting Kelly to talk to them before. Agree with it or not, apparently everyone on the team and the coaches talked about what they were going to do, and probably knew who would stand, who wouldn't, ect. If Kelly wasn't in that team meeting, then it might be a suprise to the players if someone else shows up and does something different. It is the opposite of a show of unity that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike22nc Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 As a Bills fan born in the early 80s, obviously I am a big fan of Jimbo. Hughes is right, either you are one of us or you are not. If you are not, please get off of our sideline. That's what I'd expect of a player. They take offense if you criticize them or their teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchiseThere is only way to fix that. Â Move past the success from those guys and then the topic puts them in the rear view mirror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 No disrespect to Jim Kelly, but I kind of agree with Hughes. If he is truely helping the team fine, be on the sideline. Encourage. Give tips. Do some leadership stuff. Don't go there for nostalgia purposes. At this point he is just a glorified fan of the team with special privelages because of who he is. Most of the team probably never even seen him play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbills Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Right or wrong, and in the end, I think Hughes will come to see those comments were very poorly calculated. Edited September 25, 2017 by okbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) just speaking for old-timers like me.. and essentially for myself.. Hughes should not go there.. i know all the millennials do not get Kelly. and what he means.. but not a place i would trespass on .. JMHO.. and i do not want to exclude the non- millennials. im sure there are Kelly haters.. learned that from another thread.. Edited September 25, 2017 by dwight in philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise Until someone new does some winning on the field, that's the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Does Kelly still have some form of an "ambassador" role? He did at one point, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise  This is where I am at and not really because of yesterday just in general. Team success has lacked big time but still need to be a bit more current somehow. Guys like Ruben Brown, Eric Moulds, Moorman, and even Eric Schobel were very good players who played after 2000 that deserve more time. Moulds especially gets kinda lost in the shuffle for some reason and he was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If anything Kelly should have learned from the "bickering Bills" and aired his indifference behind closed doors. Â No disrespect to Jim Kelly, but I kind of agree with Hughes. If he is truely helping the team fine, be on the sideline. Encourage. Give tips. Do some leadership stuff. Don't go there for nostalgia purposes. At this point he is just a glorified fan of the team with special privelages because of who he is. Most of the team probably never even seen him play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Best way to bring people together is to exclude those with a different view.Touché! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) just speaking for old-timers like me.. and essentially for myself.. Hughes should not go there.. i know all the millennials do not get Kelly. and what he means.. but not a place i would trespass on .. JMHO.. and i do not want to exclude the non- millennials. im sure there are Kelly haters.. learned that from another thread.. Â We get what Kelly means, I still watch the 90s highlights because of what those teams did and meant for all of us. Heck I have a picture with my wife with Jim from years back that is in my office. My issue with JK is he is a Bills employee/representative and in that capacity you shouldn't undercut your own organization. It seems the team, coaches, and owners had a good meeting Saturday to discuss the issues at hand and how to handle Sunday. Jim had zero reason to be on the field given the circumstances. If Kelly was in the same shoes in the late 80s and OJ was throwing his .02's back when OJ was the face it wouldn't have went well. Â At this point I just hope it blows over quickly so everyone focuses on ATL. I still love Jim regardless of politics and want the team to keep moving forward playing good football. Edited September 25, 2017 by corta765 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) @mikerodak Bills DE Jerry Hughes said Monday he does "not understand" why Jim Kelly is on the field before games, adding, "We are the 2017 Buffalo Bills. Were focused on the future. Were focused on winning games. If he wants to offer anything of encouragement to our team, to our quarterbacks, to our offense, please provide all of that. We could use all the encouragement we need to figure out how they won games back in those days and be successful as they were. But were trying to bring a team together, were trying to bring a community together, were trying to bring a nation together. And by dividing us, by dividing the team, that doesnt work." Â He's not a part of the team, yet he criticizes them to the media. It's not a good look. Â No one from the actual team made a critical statement, or caused a rift in the locker room. The former QB who retired 20+ years ago did. Â If you want to be on the sideline and be a helpful mentor, you're more than welcome. If you're going to be on the sideline, push an agenda, and make it about you.. maybe you shouldn't be on the sideline. Your time has passed... Edited September 25, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It was also reported that Kelly was yelling at players after the anthem was finished. Â So the current team met, agreed to stand/kneel united, and an ex-player (still paid by the team, no less), decided to make his own statement and yell at current players in the process? Â Sorry Jim. Not your place anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise Good.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Best way to bring people together is to exclude those with a different view. Ahhhhhhhhh. I just spit my coffee out of my nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It was also reported that Kelly was yelling at players after the anthem was finished. Â So the current team met, agreed to stand/kneel united, and an ex-player (still paid by the team, no less), decided to make his own statement and yell at current players in the process? Â Sorry Jim. Not your place anymore. This franchise needs to move past the old glory days.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It was also reported that Kelly was yelling at players after the anthem was finished. Â So the current team met, agreed to stand/kneel united, and an ex-player (still paid by the team, no less), decided to make his own statement and yell at current players in the process? Â Sorry Jim. Not your place anymore. Letting go is hard for Jimbo. This will be interesting to watch play out, especially with coach McD trying to build a new culture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Â We get what Kelly means, I still watch the 90s highlights because of what those teams did and meant for all of us. Heck I have a picture with my wife with Jim from years back that is in my office. My issue with JK is he is a Bills employee/representative and in that capacity you shouldn't undercut your own organization. It seems the team, coaches, and owners had a good meeting Saturday to discuss the issues at hand and how to handle Sunday. Jim had zero reason to be on the field given the circumstances. If Kelly was in the same shoes in the late 80s and OJ was throwing his .02's back when OJ was the face it wouldn't have went well. Â At this point I just hope it blows over quickly so everyone focuses on ATL. I still love Jim regardless of politics and want the team to keep moving forward playing good football. i like jim BECAUSE of his politics.. and forever cementing the Bills back to relevance after a decade of malaise. and quite honestly two decades of irrelevance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Keep winning then they can do/say whatever they want. That's why Jim is on the field. No he's not. He is simply a PAID prop. Has been since the day he retired.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I think the team wants to move past the 90s stars being the face of the franchise   ...EXACTLY....let them establish their own identity.......Kelly's yap only degrades HIMSELF......who and where was HIS ownership group (COUGH)?......Grandma said, "better seen and not heard sonny"................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Before this goes any further, this isn't what he said at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 The organisation went to great lengths to project the idea of unity. Jim threatens to undo all of that with his comments. Â Regardless of what he's done in the past, he's not being helpful at this point in time by making his feeling public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Â Â ...EXACTLY....let them establish their own identity.......Kelly's yap only degrades HIMSELF......who and where was HIS ownership group (COUGH)?......Grandma said, "better seen and not heard sonny"................. and you are an "Old time AFL guy"?wow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Best way to bring people together is to exclude those with a different view. He walked onto the field unannounced, joined the team, then went onto social media to bash the team for something they had a meeting about and agreed upon. Highschool move. Edited September 25, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) and you are an "Old time AFL guy"?wow.. Â ...sadly, "older than dirt" as in "back to '62"........and I like my Sundays full of football and devoid of politics.....did I say something wrong?...... Edited September 25, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Shady never sat for the anthem. It wasn't until the POTUS called his peers SOBs that he got mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Before this goes any further, this isn't what he said at all.it is in quotes. Was he misquoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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