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Hughes doesn't get why Jim Kelly is on the field in 2017


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...sadly, "older than dirt" as in "back to '62"........and I like my Sundays full of football and devoid of politics.....did I say something wrong?......

."EXACTLY....let them establish their own identity.......Kelly's yap only degrades HIMSELF......who and where was HIS ownership group (COUGH)?......Grandma said, "better seen and not heard sonny".................why pick on Kelly.. there are enough asshats on here that are now doing that.. just surprised.. those of us who go back.. know what Kelly means.. meant.. to the city.. franchise.

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It's unfortunate that the issue of having alumni players on the sidelines at every game has to come up in the light of the player protests controversy, but I've been saying for years that too much of it is not a good thing. Once in a while sure, have the HOF greats be a presence at a game but every week encroaches on the legacies that current players are trying to mold. Kelly, Thurman and the other home town resident players are secure in their legacies and can enjoy games from the luxury suites available to them. Sidelines should be off limits on a regular basis.

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It's unfortunate that the issue of having alumni players on the sidelines at every game has to come up in the light of the player protests controversy, but I've been saying for years that too much of it is not a good thing. Once in a while sure, have the HOF greats be a presence at a game but every week encroaches on the legacies that current players are trying to mold. Kelly, Thurman and the other home town resident players are secure in their legacies and can enjoy games from the luxury suites available to them. Sidelines should be off limits on a regular basis.

 

Is this a normal thing throughout the rest of the league?

 

edit: legacy players on the sidelines

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It's unfortunate that the issue of having alumni players on the sidelines at every game has to come up in the light of the player protests controversy, but I've been saying for years that too much of it is not a good thing. Once in a while sure, have the HOF greats be a presence at a game but every week encroaches on the legacies that current players are trying to mold. Kelly, Thurman and the other home town resident players are secure in their legacies and can enjoy games from the luxury suites available to them. Sidelines should be off limits on a regular basis.

I'm not surprised Jimbo's riled up, but I side with Hughes on this one.

 

Jimmy has to realize he's not a member of the the 2017 Bills. If he want's to express his opinion, he should do so without question. But the gray area he's crossing is to stand in that line of players and act like he's one of them. He's not, and that reality better sink in pretty fast if this isn't going to fester into something larger...

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doesnt matter.. moot as far as this discussion IMHO.. kelly has done more for this franchise than anyone on that field yesterday.. Quibble if you will .. but it is true.. again.IMHO

 

Ahhhhh, nostalgia. And it does matter. It wasn't his place.

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."EXACTLY....let them establish their own identity.......Kelly's yap only degrades HIMSELF......who and where was HIS ownership group (COUGH)?......Grandma said, "better seen and not heard sonny".................why pick on Kelly.. there are enough asshats on here that are now doing that.. just surprised.. those of us who go back.. know what Kelly means.. meant.. to the city.. franchise.

 

 

....not picking on him by any means...look how many ex-Bills still live in Buffalo/WNY and contribute substantially to the community...Thurmal and Tasker immediately come to mind.....so don't add fuel to the fire which he apparently did to get Hughes to comment.....the whole thing is a gigantic mess and messing with my Sundays....I'm not here to debate the politics bud...........

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Is this a normal thing throughout the rest of the league?

 

edit: legacy players on the sidelines

 

Good question probably far more regular then we know. I don't watch all 256 games though haha.

 

I know for the Bills especially since I'd say 2008ish they really have amped up the 90s guys being around a lot.

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....not picking on him by any means...look how many ex-Bills still live in Buffalo/WNY and contribute substantially to the community...Thurmal and Tasker immediately come to mind.....so don't add fuel to the fire which he apparently did to get Hughes to comment.....the whole thing is a gigantic mess and messing with my Sundays....I'm not here to debate the politics bud...........

ok if you say so.. but not the impression i got...anyway.. and i agree .. i dont want this.. but ill be g-damned if a guy like Hughes can say what he wants its OK..Kelly offers his opinion.. Hughes doesnt like it? dont get it

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Is this a normal thing throughout the rest of the league?

 

edit: legacy players on the sidelines

I love Jimbo, but to me it's not a matter of just being on the field--it's him wanting to take an active role while being there, like some sort of junior John Elway.

 

Sorry Jimmy, but I don't think that's appropriate, despite your name being up on the WOF...

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Shame on Jim for saying something that wont help the team play better football, and cause a distraction.

 

This is a polarizing issue so anything to fire players about anything other than football is counter productive.

 

He should understand the importance of pulling a team together, rather than ripping it apart.

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Shame on Jim for saying something that wont help the team play better football, and cause a distraction.

 

This is a polarizing issue so anything to fire players about anything other than football is counter productive.

 

He should understand the importance of pulling a team together, rather than ripping it apart.

 

In the past I'd be more fearful of the impact on the team but McD seems to really have this group buying into each other so its more of an annoying headache then issue. Not sure how many wins the whole buy in thing is worth this year but long term I think it will help.

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Shame on Jim for saying something that wont help the team play better football, and cause a distraction.

 

This is a polarizing issue so anything to fire players about anything other than football is counter productive.

 

He should understand the importance of pulling a team together, rather than ripping it apart.

 

 

bickering bills ring a bell?

 

 

I agree though, keep your nose out of it Jimbo!

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He didn't understand why he was on the field, as in, across the sidelines where the team stood for the anthem, as they discussed in their meeting. Not literally why he was on the field period. This was Rodak fake news.

 

This is the grey area for me...lining up with the players when you are no longer an active member of the team. Maybe that's what Hughes is confused about...

 

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doesnt matter.. moot as far as this discussion IMHO.. kelly has done more for this franchise than anyone on that field yesterday.. Quibble if you will .. but it is true.. again.IMHO

i see your point. I do think the organization wants to encourage and welcomes a healthy alumni involvement. But it was so long ago and we have new ownership . I'm not a millennial or a Kelly hater by any means. But to me it seems like an entirely different organization post-Ralph. Too much of the past can feel like a strange component and smothering toward a team trying to estabish its own identity. Again jmo.
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i see your point. I do think the organization wants to encourage and welcomes a healthy alumni involvement. But it was so long ago and we have new ownership . I'm not a millennial or a Kelly hater by any means. But to me it seems like an entirely different organization post-Ralph. Too much of the past can feel like a strange component and smothering toward a team trying to estabish its own identity. Again jmo.

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Hughes made a great statement, except for questioning why Jimbo is out on the field. That is not his business, it was divisive, the rest is very acknowledging and respectful.

 

All this should have been done behind closed doors. I think because Jim did not, it motivated Jerry to go public.

 

I did not see the game. If LeSean was stretching while the anthem was playing that crosses my line for being disrespectful. I think the kneeling makes a statement but is respectful because they at least assume a still position and focus that respectfully acknowledges the anthem.

 

Stretching, doing other things and ignoring the anthem, not respectful.

 

Interesting to see what the NFL does moving forward. Last thing they ever want is to lose customers with things like this. Honestly, I feel they should fine LeSean for the stretching.

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just speaking for old-timers like me.. and essentially for myself.. Hughes should not go there.. i know all the millennials do not get Kelly. and what he means.. but not a place i would trespass on .. JMHO.. and i do not want to exclude the non- millennials. im sure there are Kelly haters.. learned that from another thread..

They both should refrain from commenting on politically divisive comments.

Actually lots of People would be better served avoiding strong commentary and try listening a bit more

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or know who he is.. thats the point.. jerry f-g hughes?? are u(not specifically u) serious. who cares what he thinks or says!

The sideline and field are Jerry's place of business.

 

Like it or not, Jimbo is guest there today and he's inserted himself into a team issue inappropriately, in Jerry's (not incorrect) view...

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Jim Kelly lined up with the bills and decided to do something completely different than what everyone else was doing. By putting his hand over his heart and raising the Bills hat is him basically trying to speak for the entire bills team. It's wrong.

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If i were McD.. I would nip this in the bud.. this board is obviously not representative from what most people think .. Kelly is revered in this town.. and a chump like hughes should STFU.

I find this kinda funny because I grew up in a small town and everyone revered the guy from decades ago because of what he did when he was in his prime. 20+ years later they still do because that's what they remember.

 

I get it. Kelly was a spectacle of buffalo sports for a long time and nothing has come to replace him yet. He's still held in high regard because of his professional accomplishments and personal experiences but he's not the face of the franchise and really doesn't have a place to speak about what the team decides to do as a team when he is no longer one of the leaders of that team.

for sure it does.

 

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