4merper4mer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It was an AZ media guy who tweeted it. They don't get the internet in Arizona? OK so maybe the rumor didn't originate here but it makes me think we could start a thread that did end up getting some play. Now is a good time with the Bills making all these trades and the season starting soon. I'd say it would have to be a non-blockbuster but also not a yawner. Dareus seems obvious but might be too big a rumor. Dareus for Bortles rumor? Someone could start a thread about having heard something and a few others can him in with Hmmm I didn't hear that but it makes sense because I heard....etc. I think there is a good chance it gets play on Twitter and maybe eventually gets reported as a rumor. The players I could see being believable: Clay, Glenn, Shaq, Dareus, Hughes, Lorax. Of those I think Hughes works best. A team with a need for a pass rush guy that is on the verge of contending would be the recipient and based on which team that is, we could get back a pick or WR/OL/scrap heap Gabbert type QB. Jax, Philly or Chargers would also work because of Marrone/Schwartz/Lynn. We could probably figure out a scenario to make the whole thing feed on itself. Hughes and Clay for Hunter Henry and a 6th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He also couldn't catch a cold and didn't have Goodwin speed. Goodwin definitely the best of the 3. on the field goodwin was more agile. straight line speed, graham seemed faster. on the track graham blew goodwin away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I understand speed. But I also don't think we need speed for speed's sake. I don't want a decoy. Does the WC offense need someone who runs fast? I don't care what the offensive scheme is, any team would want speed on the outside. If it's not there the S will not have to double over the top and running gets more difficult, passing over the middle gets tougher too. You need someone out there to take the top off a D once in awhile. Dennison says he believes in the Shanahan philosophy that you need 4 big plays to win, so you need to try 8. Speed = big plays. I noticed Shanahan sent Goodwin on a deep post the other night, TD. They blew the coverage, but speed takes advantage of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Anyone tracking the jet? Wondering if it is still there On the way back, be here about 11:15. Stopped in KC again. That means Ragland failed his physical and we had to take him back (titty-boom) I'll be here all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I dont understand why Arizona would trade him. John Brown can't stay healthy. Sure they have Jaron but hes terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Maybe they decided to tank too? Too funny ! on the field goodwin was more agile. straight line speed, graham seemed faster. on the track graham blew goodwin awayGraham's catch radius required a micrometer to measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I don't like this move at all. Tyrod can throw the deep ball to a fast receiver, but Peterman doesn't have the arm strength to hit a super fast receiver deep. We need a receiver that is kind of fast but not too fast. 4.28 speed is too fast and deep for Peterman..find one that's 4.34 - 4.40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He also couldn't catch a cold and didn't have Goodwin speed. Goodwin definitely the best of the 3. Roscoe belongs in his own category. It's always overlooked that he was one of the great punt returners in league history. Over 11 ypr. #5 all time since the merger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) I don't like this move at all. Tyrod can throw the deep ball to a fast receiver, but Peterman doesn't have the arm strength to hit a super fast receiver deep. We need a receiver that is kind of fast but not too fast. 4.28 speed is too fast and deep for Peterman..find one that's 4.34 - 4.40.We're basing roster moves on the back up QB now? Edited August 30, 2017 by JM57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 We're basing roster moves on the back up QB now? Well, that's all we have in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 JJ Nelson got me quoted on Twitter like I was an insider for a second. I love him already Bloke, what's your Twitter handle? The JJ Nelson Story: Yesterday was a busy one. About 8:30 yesterday I got the FlightAware email that one of Pegula's jets was flying to Kansas City and on to Phoenix. Wheeler airport in KC is often used by Pegula as a waypoint to eat and refuel, but it's darn close to the Chiefs' facilities. We knew that Ragland was not a fit for the 4-3, and that Preston Brown was killing it, so I tweeted that a trade could be going down between Bills and Chiefs (DraftTek's Chiefs Analyst has 3-4 MLB listed as a team need). When the trade with KC was announced, I felt vindicated, as I was taking some heat on Twitter. I decided to check reasons why the jet was on to Phoenix, and started checking WR. I went to Ourlads depth chart of the Cardinals first, as they seem to be most up to date. There was a glut of WRs, Fitz, the 2 Browns, Nelson, Chad Williams, Aaron Dobson, John Ross, etc. I checked several articles referring to Cards WRs, and found out Nelson, likely one of the five fastest men in the NFL, was in HC Ariens' doghouse. Besides, Nelson hardly played in the 3rd preseason game; when they needed to take the top off the Falcons' defense, they used John Ross and later Aaron Dobson. Perhaps JJ Nelson had become expendable with Ross being drafted. I posted my thoughts on Twitter. A head of a startup sports network, GGSN, tweeted that "sources" he'd spoken with had said JJ Nelson was the guy, and that Bills were trading their acquired Ragland pick for him. This opened a storm of scoffs from pundits saying this was a conditional pick, and couldn't be used as such. That's a story for a different day. I also direct messaged Chris Brown, lead reporter, who said Nelson was on his list of possible acquisitions in a Ragland trade, but that he hadn't heard anything. The jet stayed in PHX about 24 hours. The flight plan was scheduled for PHX to KC, but not to BUF, so I assumed a Cardinals player is being dropped off in KC, and that the Bills are spending the night in Kansas City. An hour later, I get another FlightAware email saying they'll proceed to BUF for a 9:35 arrival. FlightAware sends me another email saying the Bills' flight home was delayed in KC, and won't be taking off until 8:35, arriving back in BUF at 11:35. We'll find out soon, but my money will be on the speed WR, JJ Nelson. He received almost zero snaps, he's the speed we lost by trading Sammy and releasing Listenbee and waiving Rashad Ross. WR is the Cardinals ' biggest glut. He's in Ariens' doghouse, and the PHX paper says he's on the bubble. Second would be Aaron Dobson, likely the Cards' sixth receiver, and still a 4.4 guy (JJ is 4.28). A distant third would be QB, but I don't want to go there. ...Astro. TCBIlls_Astro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Terry is going to fly the jet to the other 31 NFL cities just to mess with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Bloke, what's your Twitter handle? The JJ Nelson Story: Yesterday was a busy one. About 8:30 yesterday I got the FlightAware email that one of Pegula's jets was flying to Kansas City and on to Phoenix. Wheeler airport in KC is often used by Pegula as a waypoint to eat and refuel, but it's darn close to the Chiefs' facilities. We knew that Ragland was not a fit for the 4-3, and that Preston Brown was killing it, so I tweeted that a trade could be going down between Bills and Chiefs (DraftTek's Chiefs Analyst has 3-4 MLB listed as a team need). When the trade with KC was announced, I felt vindicated, as I was taking some heat on Twitter. I decided to check reasons why the jet was on to Phoenix, and started checking WR. I went to Ourlads depth chart of the Cardinals first, as they seem to be most up to date. There was a glut of WRs, Fitz, the 2 Browns, Nelson, Chad Williams, Aaron Dobson, John Ross, etc. I checked several articles referring to Cards WRs, and found out Nelson, likely one of the five fastest men in the NFL, was in HC Ariens' doghouse. Besides, Nelson hardly played in the 3rd preseason game; when they needed to take the top off the Falcons' defense, they used John Ross and later Aaron Dobson. Perhaps JJ Nelson had become expendable with Ross being drafted. I posted my thoughts on Twitter. A head of a startup sports network, GGSN, tweeted that "sources" he'd spoken with had said JJ Nelson was the guy, and that Bills were trading their acquired Ragland pick for him. This opened a storm of scoffs from pundits saying this was a conditional pick, and couldn't be used as such. That's a story for a different day. I also direct messaged Chris Brown, lead reporter, who said Nelson was on his list of possible acquisitions in a Ragland trade, but that he hadn't heard anything. The jet stayed in PHX about 24 hours. The flight plan was scheduled for PHX to KC, but not to BUF, so I assumed a Cardinals player is being dropped off in KC, and that the Bills are spending the night in Kansas City. An hour later, I get another FlightAware email saying they'll proceed to BUF for a 9:35 arrival. FlightAware sends me another email saying the Bills' flight home was delayed in KC, and won't be taking off until 8:35, arriving back in BUF at 11:35. We'll find out soon, but my money will be on the speed WR, JJ Nelson. He received almost zero snaps, he's the speed we lost by trading Sammy and releasing Listenbee and waiving Rashad Ross. WR is the Cardinals ' biggest glut. He's in Ariens' doghouse, and the PHX paper says he's on the bubble. Second would be Aaron Dobson, likely the Cards' sixth receiver, and still a 4.4 guy (JJ is 4.28). A distant third would be QB, but I don't want to go there. ...Astro. TCBIlls_Astro Ranks Rastro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Second would be Aaron Dobson, likely the Cards' sixth receiver, and still a 4.4 guy (JJ is 4.28). Ah, finally revenge on Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Thanks for the info Astro Nelson is competent as a speed guy like we had in Goodwin, although he is a bit smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Are teams allowed to announce trades before a player physically arrives in an airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I would not mind Nelson at all CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 This would be the best. Will be checking tbd with ferocity all damn day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Guys, let's use logic here. If the Bills traded for Nelson or any other Cardinal and they were transporting him back they would have announced the trade before the flight arrived. They would have been required to file with the league and it would have gotten out that way. Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Guys, let's use logic here. If the Bills traded for Nelson or any other Cardinal and they were transporting him back they would have announced the trade before the flight arrived. They would have been required to file with the league and it would have gotten out that way. Geez. Agreed. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but Jordan Matthews arrived via Buffalo Airport and they send the private jet for JJ Nelson? Not likely. This is the only site that has any report of this being a possibility. Not going to hold my breath on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He does have two years left on his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Agreed. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but Jordan Matthews arrived via Buffalo Airport and they send the private jet for JJ Nelson? Not likely. This is the only site that has any report of this being a possibility. Not going to hold my breath on this one. But keep in mind, this site also reported Ritchie kicked Dareus' ass in the parking lot of the Mongolian Buffet because he forgot the coupon...so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 But keep in mind, this site also reported Ritchie kicked Dareus' ass in the parking lot of the Mongolian Buffet because he forgot the coupon...so there's that. Makes sense. So where do I order my J.J. Nelson jersey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Makes sense. So where do I order my J.J. Nelson jersey? here ya go. http://m.nflshop.com/league/NFL/team/Arizona_Cardinals/category/14012/browse/featuredproduct/2220502/source/ak1944nfl-pla?sku=7260184&003=14180831&CS_010=2220502 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Give us Jordy Nelson Edited August 30, 2017 by Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Bloke, what's your Twitter handle? The JJ Nelson Story: Yesterday was a busy one. About 8:30 yesterday I got the FlightAware email that one of Pegula's jets was flying to Kansas City and on to Phoenix. Wheeler airport in KC is often used by Pegula as a waypoint to eat and refuel, but it's darn close to the Chiefs' facilities. We knew that Ragland was not a fit for the 4-3, and that Preston Brown was killing it, so I tweeted that a trade could be going down between Bills and Chiefs (DraftTek's Chiefs Analyst has 3-4 MLB listed as a team need). When the trade with KC was announced, I felt vindicated, as I was taking some heat on Twitter. I decided to check reasons why the jet was on to Phoenix, and started checking WR. I went to Ourlads depth chart of the Cardinals first, as they seem to be most up to date. There was a glut of WRs, Fitz, the 2 Browns, Nelson, Chad Williams, Aaron Dobson, John Ross, etc. I checked several articles referring to Cards WRs, and found out Nelson, likely one of the five fastest men in the NFL, was in HC Ariens' doghouse. Besides, Nelson hardly played in the 3rd preseason game; when they needed to take the top off the Falcons' defense, they used John Ross and later Aaron Dobson. Perhaps JJ Nelson had become expendable with Ross being drafted. I posted my thoughts on Twitter. A head of a startup sports network, GGSN, tweeted that "sources" he'd spoken with had said JJ Nelson was the guy, and that Bills were trading their acquired Ragland pick for him. This opened a storm of scoffs from pundits saying this was a conditional pick, and couldn't be used as such. That's a story for a different day. I also direct messaged Chris Brown, lead reporter, who said Nelson was on his list of possible acquisitions in a Ragland trade, but that he hadn't heard anything. The jet stayed in PHX about 24 hours. The flight plan was scheduled for PHX to KC, but not to BUF, so I assumed a Cardinals player is being dropped off in KC, and that the Bills are spending the night in Kansas City. An hour later, I get another FlightAware email saying they'll proceed to BUF for a 9:35 arrival. FlightAware sends me another email saying the Bills' flight home was delayed in KC, and won't be taking off until 8:35, arriving back in BUF at 11:35. We'll find out soon, but my money will be on the speed WR, JJ Nelson. He received almost zero snaps, he's the speed we lost by trading Sammy and releasing Listenbee and waiving Rashad Ross. WR is the Cardinals ' biggest glut. He's in Ariens' doghouse, and the PHX paper says he's on the bubble. Second would be Aaron Dobson, likely the Cards' sixth receiver, and still a 4.4 guy (JJ is 4.28). A distant third would be QB, but I don't want to go there. ...Astro. TCBIlls_Astro I'm exhausted just reading this--but it's very interesting to read about the work and thought process that went into all this. good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 here ya go. http://m.nflshop.com/league/NFL/team/Arizona_Cardinals/category/14012/browse/featuredproduct/2220502/source/ak1944nfl-pla?sku=7260184&003=14180831&CS_010=2220502 Ninety-nine doll hairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Folks, I was wrong on this one. I over-relied on FlightAware (jet was leased by someone other than Bills) and on GGSN (who have had questionable "Breaking News" stories). I'll try to do better than this. Astro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Noooo we suck again Jk Astro thanks for looking out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Folks, I was wrong on this one. I over-relied on FlightAware (jet was leased by someone other than Bills) and on GGSN (who have had questionable "Breaking News" stories). I'll try to do better than this. Astro even Bernstein and Woodward missed once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 While we're on the subject....anyone know any good chili sauce recipes for hot dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I am sure we'll make a move at WR, but probably someone who gets cut Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 here ya go. http://m.nflshop.com/league/NFL/team/Arizona_Cardinals/category/14012/browse/featuredproduct/2220502/source/ak1944nfl-pla?sku=7260184&003=14180831&CS_010=2220502 Lol he's #14, how ironic. While we're on the subject....anyone know any good chili sauce recipes for hot dogs? http://www.food.com/recipe/coney-island-chili-dog-sauce-266019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I am sure we'll make a move at WR, but probably someone who gets cut Saturday. Which will most likely be JJ Nelson or Aaron Donald, two speedsters, one of whom won't be needed with JohnRoss coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Which will most likely be JJ Nelson or Aaron Donald, two speedsters, one of whom won't be needed with JohnRoss coming in. Isn't John Ross on the Bengals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 http://www.food.com/recipe/coney-island-chili-dog-sauce-266019 Thanks man...this looks promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Isn't John Ross on the Bengals? He meant to say John Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Folks, I was wrong on this one. I over-relied on FlightAware (jet was leased by someone other than Bills) and on GGSN (who have had questionable "Breaking News" stories). I'll try to do better than this. Astro Just for that, we're knocking your title of Training Camp Reporter to Training Camp Junior Reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He meant to say John Brown I think he meant Jeremy Ross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think he meant Jeremy Ross. I think he meant Ross Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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