#34fan Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Ground n pound ftl Edited June 17, 2017 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 If you can win by running the ball effectively and the opposing team can't stop you, then the correct number of passes you should throw is around zero. A balanced offense is achieved by mixing the proper ratio of successful running plays with successful passing plays. Unsuccessful passing plays hurt you in three ways...1. no yards gained 2. little time taken off the clock 3. a tired defense put right back out on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I scanned the unavailable stats. The results will shock you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 these stats were last year. "17" may be the season they end the streak? I guess if one wanted to cling on to last seasons stats to rag on the QB, this may be useful but with a new staff and an OC that likely will still rely on the run and may open up the pass game more? maybe they change that stat, maybe not? lets see what happens in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 And the Broncos under Uncle Rico were 18th. The Bills should be passing more this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! Last time I wathced a game there were very few qbs allowed to call their own plays. Offensive coordinators call the plays. Your advice should say note to our OC tell the qb to spray it. It really baffles me how fans dont understand very simplistic concepts regarding football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! The low pass attempt discussions have been going on for awhile now. On the other hand Buffalo averaged over 5 yards a run attempt despite the oppositions knowledge of the Bills intentions. Do you consider the best run game in the NFL a negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Im not going to get into what could have been should the D we worked so hard to biuld was maintained......everybody knows I will just say yes.....I would like to see us pass more....and more importantly....be more effective passing the ball at critical times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Atlanta was 27th overall. How did they end up last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Now that right there is dirty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Well that's just big and dirty. I can't believe there wasn't a Sanchez in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Well that's just big and dirty. I can't believe there wasn't a Sanchez in there Wasn't there? I thought Rex had a tramp stamp of his likeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 The low pass attempt discussions have been going on for awhile now. On the other hand Buffalo averaged over 5 yards a run attempt despite the oppositions knowledge of the Bills intentions. Do you consider the best run game in the NFL a negative? Praising our run game was part of the original post... Perhaps you should read it .. The problem with the run when you have a LOUSY D, is that you can't keep pace with your opponents scoring... even if you have a middle of the pack defense, the run game shouldn't be your mainstay. Get the TE's involved so you can move the chains and score in different ways... I don't see this offense making any strides if the starter doesn't at least TRY to chuck the ball downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! That's dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Praising our run game was part of the original post... Perhaps you should read it .. The problem with the run when you have a LOUSY D, is that you can't keep pace with your opponents scoring... even if you have a middle of the pack defense, the run game shouldn't be your mainstay. Get the TE's involved so you can move the chains and score in different ways... I don't see this offense making any strides if the starter doesn't at least TRY to chuck the ball downfield. Where do you think less pass attempts went? I suppose you could say Rex is one big, dirty... With all due respect OP my point is the G Roman low pass attempts was by design and its something our HC wanted out of the O. Edited June 17, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 Where do you think less pass attempts went? Alot of them went into Taylor Savings & Loan... Well, mostly SAVINGS... That's where Tightwad keeps all the wide open guys he didn't hit, and all the plays he left on the field because he was scared to throw. Yah... guys were hurt... The WR corp. was weak.... Still, there were many opportunities TT let sail by... This year's schedule offers little in the way of forgiveness for such mistakes. Bottom line? -Ball's gotta fly in '17. or we CRY in '17... -AGAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! so, you're saying we should have run the ball less? Because you cant have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/yards-per-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I've said it before and I'll say it again, their may be only 2 or 3 defenses that can stop the passing game in today's NFL and those defenses get torched against the top 10 passers. It's all about the QB's and we still don't have a top 15 passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 The low pass attempt discussions have been going on for awhile now. On the other hand Buffalo averaged over 5 yards a run attempt despite the oppositions knowledge of the Bills intentions. Do you consider the best run game in the NFL a negative? It shouldn't be considered a negative. But there's a reason that we were only 16th in total yards. And that helps to explain the sad facts that while our offense received the 11th best average drive start position in the NFL, they handed back to the defense the 23rd best average drive start position. Field position matters and our offense didn't deliver. If we can win (a Super Bowl) with this amount of runs, I'd be perfectly happy. But to do so you pretty much need the best defense in the league and a good passing QB. I'm not worried about this year. We're almost certainly going to be fairly bad. I'm worried about developing in the right direction in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) I've said it before and I'll say it again, their may be only 2 or 3 defenses that can stop the passing game in today's NFL and those defenses get torched against the top 10 passers. It's all about the QB's and we still don't have a top 15 passer. Being equally as good in the run and pass allows an OC to gameplan what works best aginst every opponent in my humble opinion. It also allows for more adjustment in bad weather conditions. Do you run the ball less against an opponent that struggles stopping the run? no, of course you don't It shouldn't be considered a negative. But there's a reason that we were only 16th in total yards. And that helps to explain the sad facts that while our offense received the 11th best average drive start position in the NFL, they handed back to the defense the 23rd best average drive start position. Field position matters and our offense didn't deliver. If we can win (a Super Bowl) with this amount of runs, I'd be perfectly happy. But to do so you pretty much need the best defense in the league and a good passing QB. I'm not worried about this year. We're almost certainly going to be fairly bad. I'm worried about developing in the right direction in the long term. I agree, middle of the pack in total yardage doesn't get the job done. I do however feel the Bills D contributed... Edited June 17, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 We may be a top 5 team at running the football but our QB for some reason can't do play action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-gameWow.We were 3rd in ppg at Home with just over 30.1st in the AFC! Only 19 ppg on the road! That's a huge inexcusable difference and I'm hoping it had to do with Rex being so undisciplined towards the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Ridiculousness. Is this supposed to sum things up? Atlanta, who had the SB all but won is 27th and threw the ball a total of 3.8 times more per game. Or less than one pass per quarter. Do we want to be Baltimore or Jax or NO or Philly or Wash? Lets try not summing things up with a simple statistic. Let's win the offseason first. ☺️ Edited June 17, 2017 by Cville Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! Nice find and reminder how diff this modern NFL is today. To think a team that avg 30 passes a game is 2nd from last is mind boggling. I never would have guessed. Edited June 17, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) I agree, middle of the pack in total yardage doesn't get the job done. I do however feel the Bills D contributed... You mean that the Bills D was bad? You get no argument from me there. But some people want to put all the blame on the defense and none on our below average pass game. Wow. We were 3rd in ppg at Home with just over 30.1st in the AFC! Only 19 ppg on the road! That's a huge inexcusable difference and I'm hoping it had to do with Rex being so undisciplined towards the players Woh, nice pickup. I looked at that page and totally missed that. Holy cow, that's a huge difference. Edited June 17, 2017 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Last time I wathced a game there were very few qbs allowed to call their own plays. Offensive coordinators call the plays. Your advice should say note to our OC tell the qb to spray it. It really baffles me how fans dont understand very simplistic concepts regarding football. So baffling. Maybe you can break it down for us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section242 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 The Bills are 1-10 when Taylor attempts 30 or more passes. Which would make sense as a team losing has to throw more. Well 8 of the games were decided by 8 points or less. I'd say the best game Taylor played he threw the ball 12 times in 2015. The QB play hasn't been good enough because the Bills haven't valued the QB position. Hopefully it changes but it's easier for a GM to miss on the Greg Robinsons of the world than Jared Goffs. Also the drought weighs heavily. The justification we use is that Taylor is the best option for 2017; and he is. For the long-term future of the team he's at best a guy that the Chiefs just decided wasn't good enough to win a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I guess based on this...Jacksonville should have been pretty good last year...let me check and see how they did... Yep. This is called confirmation bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! Looks like the same stat kept New Orleans and Baltimore out too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 So baffling. Maybe you can break it down for us ?Just trying to dispell ignorance. Trying to make fans more educated on the sport of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Bills call a pass play. TT holds the ball, scrambles around,(as he is capable of doing) and either takes a sack or gains some positive rush yards, maybe a first down or even more. Neither of these outcomes count as a "pass attempt." I would guess that TT, as a % of pass plays called, would have amongst the highest rates of "no throws." This is may not be a bad thing if it's because of his running talent and being "ball secure." So, as to the OP, I am unconvinced as to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 They need to be able to score during a two minute drill to win the game. When Tyrod had to pass the ball to win the game is when he typically fell flat on his face. This is where I think they need to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 They need to be able to score during a two minute drill to win the game. When Tyrod had to pass the ball to win the game is when he typically fell flat on his face. This is where I think they need to improve. This is true but an exaggerated truth. I think TT's two best games were against Seattle and the home Miami game. We all know the other issues involved in those losses. He played great in those games and the losses tend to obscure that fact. The coaching and defense have to hold up their performance to give a QB a chance to make a difference. Being great in a loss does nothing to help to define a QB as a difference maker. TT did not let the team down in those losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Scanning available stats, I found many areas where the Bills did well... Rushing stats were phenomenal... Believe it or not, Many of our stats ranged from good to middle of the pack Except one. Perhaps the one that kept us out of the playoff's for the seventeenth time in a row. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/pass-attempts-per-game Yes, the D was miserable... But in order to be competitive this one stat MUST change... Note to our QB's -SPRAY IT, DON'T SAY IT! That is not correct at all. Here are the facts: Offensive rankings: - 10th overall in ppg - 16th overall in ypg - 1st in rushing ypg - 30th in passing ypg Defensive rankings: - 16th overall in ppg - 19th overall in ypg - 29th in rushing against ypg - 6th in passing against ypg The team couldn't pass or stop the run. BOTH were huge issues. The worst was that late in games we couldn't pass to score or stop the run and get the ball back. And don't give me the "we're a run first offense" crap. If we could've been effective passing the ball, then we'd have done it a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Looks like a bash Tyrod thread more then anything else. Where did the Bills rank in offensive TDs when Tyrod started last year? Lol. That's one, big, dirty stat that should lock the thread. Which is why I really don't care to comment on threads about stats because they can be used in any way to derive a narrative you want but felt that one was justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 In the end the only stat that matters is W's and L's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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