John from Riverside Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Yes we also have needs at other positions but safety/matchup LB is definately one of them......there are those that make a case that it is he most DIRE need The guy is coming out and working out with both the linebackers AND safeties.....not backing down from any challenge...and looks fantastic Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Hopefully the idea that he is an athlete and not a football player is held widely and he falls to us in the 2nd, like he just did in my Fanspeak mock draft. And we had Hooker in the first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We need a Safety, when A Williams went down our entire season went with him. That sounds melodramatic but our defense imploded without a decent safety back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We need a Safety, when A Williams went down our entire season went with him. That sounds melodramatic but our defense imploded without a decent safety back there. Two years in a row saw our defense missing A Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Should have cut to the chase and had him work out with the RBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Yes we also have needs at other positions but safety/matchup LB is definately one of them......there are those that make a case that it is he most DIRE need The guy is coming out and working out with both the linebackers AND safeties.....not backing down from any challenge...and looks fantastic Just saying This draft is loaded with back end help. Peppers is not someone I'd look to before the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Yes we also have needs at other positions but safety/matchup LB is definately one of them......there are those that make a case that it is he most DIRE need The guy is coming out and working out with both the linebackers AND safeties.....not backing down from any challenge...and looks fantastic Just saying He looked real good out there. And agree about his mentality. He's a Safety though. And he's going in round one. And probably in the top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/192182-jabrill-peppers-thomas-davisshaq-thompson-clone/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 He looks very good. But I will lose my mind if they don't draft a QB...like if they draft this guy instead of Mahomes I may be permanently done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Yes we also have needs at other positions but safety/matchup LB is definately one of them......there are those that make a case that it is he most DIRE need The guy is coming out and working out with both the linebackers AND safeties.....not backing down from any challenge...and looks fantastic Just saying Like I said... http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/192182-jabrill-peppers-thomas-davisshaq-thompson-clone/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We'll know a little more about Peppers after the DB drills tomorrow, but he should have done the RB drills, not LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Yes we also have needs at other positions but safety/matchup LB is definately one of them......there are those that make a case that it is he most DIRE need The guy is coming out and working out with both the linebackers AND safeties.....not backing down from any challenge...and looks fantastic Just saying Definitely is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorbait Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I think Hooker is the better shut down safety but Peppers is more intriguing. His return game ability, physicality and overall athleticism are hard to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We need a Safety, when A Williams went down our entire season went with him. That sounds melodramatic but our defense imploded without a decent safety back there. The defense was going down with or without him......but it's a convenient excuse and Bills fans need a "legend" to believe in. They could have addressed the safety position in FA and gotten All-Pro to Pro Bowl quality......Eric Weddle was great but a bit pricey but Reggie Nelson was also better in Oakland than AW has ever been........there is life after AW the team just needs to, you know......get a decent safety and stop relying on a guy that busted up his neck early in 2014 and has had it duct taped together for the past three years. He hasn't made plays since 2013 for chrissake. #LegendofAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 The defense was going down with or without him......but it's a convenient excuse and Bills fans need a "legend" to believe in. They could have addressed the safety position in FA and gotten All-Pro to Pro Bowl quality......Eric Weddle was great but a bit pricey but Reggie Nelson was also better in Oakland than AW has ever been........there is life after AW the team just needs to, you know......get a decent safety and stop relying on a guy that busted up his neck early in 2014 and has had it duct taped together for the past three years. He hasn't made plays since 2013 for chrissake. #LegendofAW I think he might be saying that perhaps it doesnt go down in flames if we had a quality safety (not Williams in particular) I think I agree with that.....the communication was so bad in or secondary......the coaching so inept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I think he might be saying that perhaps it doesnt go down in flames if we had a quality safety (not Williams in particular) I think I agree with that.....the communication was so bad in or secondary......the coaching so inept It wasn't going to matter. As I've said, Ajayi was on pace for 200 yards in that Miami game BEFORE AW took that hard shot from Landry. They had played a string of poor QB's to that point.....including Fitz who had carpet-bombed AW's secondary. AW hasn't made plays in years. But, again, there has to be an excuse so people use AW loss as a crutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 We need a Safety, when A Williams went down our entire season went with him. That sounds melodramatic but our defense imploded without a decent safety back there. It may sound melodramatic, but it also sounds quite accurate. Unfortunately, as valuable as he's been back there and to the D as a whole, we just can't trust that he'll last. Jarvis Landry is still not on my Christmas card list. I'd rather see him in jail, then I might forward a card. In my mind that should have been a healthy suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Yes we also have needs at other positions but safety/matchup LB is definately one of them......there are those that make a case that it is he most DIRE need The guy is coming out and working out with both the linebackers AND safeties.....not backing down from any challenge...and looks fantastic Just saying Safety/matchup LB. Like a rich man's Bryan Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Safety/matchup LB. Like a rich man's Bryan Scott. 43's the Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) As a non-college football fan and follower, Peppers is one of the few real Elite college players I've seen. Why isn't he an option at 10? Not that I really value Mel Kiper's opinion, but it's being entertained at least by him: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.mlive.com/v1/articles/20509850/jabrill_peppers_no_10_overall.amp Sorry if this has been discussed. Did a search and haven't seen his name in the titles of any threads. Edited April 20, 2017 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I think he is a dark horse candidate for the Bills at #10. It would be unexpected as most people are projecting him as a late 1st/early 2nd rd draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He's an athlete. You know who else was an athlete, Mayhem Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Don't draft a running back at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He's a skilled athlete without a doubt. However, I've seen him make too many hesitations while playing Safety. If anything he would be a great LB. The fact that he doesn't have enough support at any position is worrisome. No maybin 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Because he gets cooked by college players often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He's an athlete. You know who else was an athlete, Mayhem Maybin. Are all athletes bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Probably because he doesn't have a true position and correct me if I'm wrong....one turnover and I think zero forced fumbles in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I think the concern is about the fact that he seems to be a "tweener" between a WLB and a box safety, and that he might struggle in zone coverage. That said, if that's the way that McD wants to build the defense I am ok with it. We keep hearing about being a "passing league", so running with 3 safeties all the time doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 They said the same stuff about Honey Badger and now he's one of the top dbacks in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I see that Kiper has him being picked by the Bills at #10. I don't really see that happening but OBD may see things very differently. We will know in 1 week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I like habaneros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Are all athletes bad?Athletes without a position*.They said the same stuff about Honey Badger and now he's one of the top dbacks in the NFLTheir stats are vastly different: 1 int and 1 pass defended last year. That's not what a db does. Edited April 20, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He's an athlete. You know who else was an athlete, Mayhem Maybin. They should have tried Maybin at SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLiever55 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 They said the same stuff about Honey Badger and now he's one of the top dbacks in the NFL If I remember right, the knock on Honey Badger was that he was a knucklehead. I don't recall people questioning his on-field ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 If I remember right, the knock on Honey Badger was that he was a knucklehead. I don't recall people questioning his on-field ability. That's true but they also said he wasn't a safety he's just a good athlete and he doesn't have a position. When all you do is make plays it doesn't matter where they put you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Plenty of talk about Peppers across the other threads. Kirby and I discussed him yesterday.... in the non QBs to avoid at 10 thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Check the Running Backs rounds 4-7 thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Plenty of talk about Peppers across the other threads. Kirby and I discussed him yesterday.... in the non QBs to avoid at 10 thread. I am listening to Mike & Mike now and Kiper just doubled down. They asked him 3 prospects that you'd bet your mortgage will be stars and Mel chose Peppers as one. He is so desperate to be right about him. I'm going to try to tweet Kiper to bet his house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 They said the same stuff about Honey Badger and now he's one of the top dbacks in the NFLNo they didn't say the same things. The Honey Bager had 6 sacks, 4 INTs, 8 FR and 11 forced fumbles as a freshman and sophomore!! That's how he got the nickname because "he takes what he wants." He was as good a college player as I've maybe ever seen. He was the ULTIMATE playmaker. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tyrann-mathieu-1.html By comparison Peppers has 1 INt, 3 sacks, no forced fumbles and no fumble recoveries. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jabrill-peppers-1.html There is absolutely nothing similar about Peppers and the Honey Badger coming out. I don't get worked up often here but comparing Peppers to Mathieu will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 No they didn't say the same things. The Honey Bager had 6 sacks, 4 INTs, 8 FR and 11 forced fumbles as a freshman and sophomore!! That's how he got the nickname because "he takes what he wants." He was as good a college player as I've maybe ever seen. He was the ULTIMATE playmaker. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tyrann-mathieu-1.html By comparison Peppers has 1 INt, 3 sacks, no forced fumbles and no fumble recoveries. http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jabrill-peppers-1.html There is absolutely nothing similar about Peppers and the Honey Badger coming out. I don't get worked up often here but comparing Peppers to Mathieu will do that. Honey Badger was such a great player and playmaker that teams were still willing to take a chance on him even though he had massive off the field problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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