Liberal Protests

[Jauronimo]

Just now, Buffalo_Gal said:

A protest does not hurt the people you're trying to help.

You are melding a peaceful protest with ginned up rioting and looting. One is not like the other.

 

I am not but thanks.  

 

I'll say it again: rioting bad, looting bad.  I hereby condemn rioting and looting to the maximum in accordance with the highest standards of the board as established by Magox.

[BuffaloHokie13]

5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

You literally just said they feel injustice but they're perceptions are inaccurate, did you not? How is that different than "they have a right to protest but have no case"? 

I think he said that the accuracy is debatable, not inaccurate. Isn't that the point? An open conversation on what's truly wrong and how it can be addressed? 

[4merper4mer]

5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

 

Shouldn't you be scouring the internet for more beat down porn?  Google purple hair liberal gets pwned and tell us what comes up.  

 

I can do that AND point out what a phony you are.  Both are simple.

[Taro T]

Just now, Jauronimo said:

Of course they have the right to protest.  You can protest anything.  Doesn't mean the fine people here believe the protesters have a legit case and many do not.  How many times have I read in this forum "Chauvin was arrested.  What are they even protesting?". 

 

Yes, there was considerable doubt that these officers would face any repercussions. 

 

Yes, rioting is bad.  Looting is bad.  I don't think I have seen anyone argue otherwise and if people have, they are wrong.

 

To the bolded: don't know.  How many times have you read it?

 

And, since we're asking questions: when is the last time a police officer was fired while an investigation into his behavior was ongoing that additional punishments weren't later brought?  Honestly can't come up with an example ottomh w/in the past 30 years.  Assuming you have some as am presuming there was a reason for having "considerable doubt" that additional punishment (read charges) would be forthcoming.

[Back2Buff]

1 hour ago, bbb said:

A lot of feet in that video 

 

Here is a easier version:

 

 

[Jauronimo]

Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I think he said that the accuracy is debatable, not inaccurate. Isn't that the point? An open conversation on what's truly wrong and how it can be addressed? 

He did.  Doesn't that imply that he believes the protest to be of questionable merit?  If you don't believe the people have a real gripe, if you believe the stats/facts do not support their argument, it would definitely explain the difference between reactions to protests at home and protests abroad.

[Dante]

23 hours ago, Dante said:

One positive out all this bullshite. 

For all the hard work the left has done at gun grabbing, this has set it back 30 years. In fact, they are going to be more popular than ever.

All the fake mass shooting. The constant fear tactics traumatizing young kids in elementary schools with active shooter drills. On and on, all for not. No one in their right mind would give up personal protection now.

Here you go

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/1/gun-sales-surge-80-may-research-firm/

[Magox]

She's a fraud

 

 

[Kevbeau]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

This is 4chan....again...right?

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

He did.  Doesn't that imply that he believes the protest to be of questionable merit?  If you don't believe the people have a real gripe, if you believe the stats/facts do not support their argument, it would definitely explain the difference between reactions to protests at home and protests abroad.

Do you think that those protesting are absolutely 100% correct on all of their assertions? Or do you think that perhaps they are mistaken about any of it? If there is a middle ground, then it should be found through an open and honest dialog and assessment of the facts available. A legitimate protest absolutely should start a dialog. Unless you believe that protests are meritless as soon as the protesters concede a single point.

[4merper4mer]

48 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I am not but thanks.  

 

I'll say it again: rioting bad, looting bad.  I hereby condemn rioting and looting to the maximum in accordance with the highest standards of the board as established by Magox.

 

More snide crap.  Please show one comment from anyone in this thread stating any of the peaceful protests are illegitimate in any way.

 

Indeed people have lamented looting and rioting but that is it.  Your fake agreement, while you actually support the riots is duly noted.

 

 

I don't really think you support the riots.  I just said that to mirror your wise ass insinuations about what others "secretly" feel about peaceful protests.  It's pretty see through.  Get better at it or don't do it.

 

Side point:  Why do you think people are protesting in London and Paris?

Edited June 5, 2020 by 4merper4mer

[billsfan1959]

6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

You literally just said they feel injustice but they're perceptions are inaccurate, did you not? How is that different than "they have a right to protest but have no case"? 

 

I said the degree of the accuracy of their perceptions is debatable. I didn't say they were entirely inaccurate. They can have a feeling that they genuinely feel. They have the right to express what they feel in a protest. I fully support any peaceful protest. However, it doesn't mean that what they feel is based on an entirely accurate perception.

 

That is where expression of feelings is followed by honest dialogue.

 

That really shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp and it does not equate to saying they "have no case." Perhaps it is just too nuanced for you.

[Dante]

5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

 

More snide crap.  Please show one comment from anyone in this thread stating any of the peaceful protests are illegitimate in any way.

 

Indeed people have lamented looting and rioting but that is it.  Your fake agreement, while you actually support the riots with is duly noted.

 

 

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I don't really think you support the riots.  I just said that to mirror your wise ass insinuations about what others "secretly" feel about peaceful protests.  It's pretty see through.  Get better at it or don't do it.

 

 

Side point:  Why do you think people are protesting in London and Paris?

Paid agitators making it go international.  

[Wacka]

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

Martha's Vineyard lol.

Was he hanging with those bad apples, the Kennedy clan?

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

...how the hell does she think she can tell private businesses who they can or cannot rent rooms to?......DC has had some mayoral winners..."District of Columbia" sure fits...more drugs than the Columbian cartels......our nation's capital....sad....hats off to Marion Barry.....

Edited June 5, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[billsfan1959]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I love the request regarding white women: "Guilt them into getting rid of their stright 'white' hair to show 'solidarity' with black women."

 

Just guilt them into it. Just shame them into it. Just bully them into it.

 

Seems like a reasonable, honest, respectful way to go about doing things.

[IDBillzFan]

56 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's a deliberate set up. She wants riots. 

 

They need to regain control of the news cycle. 

 

It's that shameless. 

 

Going to be a rough weekend in DC. Courtesy of their mayor. Sad to watch, really, but we all know that DC will never be run by anyone other than a leftist who chooses violence over protection.

[Dante]

5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...how the hell does she think she can tell private businesses who they can or cannot rent rooms to?......DC has had some mayoral winners..."District of Columbia" sure fits...more drugs than the Columbian cartels......our nation's capital....sad....

For her/them/Government it's easy. Just some sort of emergency, like a pandemic or unrest and everyone's legal rights go out the window. Easy peasy shortcut to communism.

[Unforgiven]

6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I love the request regarding white women: "Guilt them into getting rid of their stright 'white' hair to show 'solidarity' with black women."

 

Just guilt them into it. Just shame them into it. Just bully them into it.

 

Seems like a reasonable, honest, respectful way to go about doing things.

They are empty shells.

I wonder how you can guilt someone into something they didn't do?

Some serious gaslighting, cointel pro style.

Lol I must be racist, I don't feel any guilt whatsoever.

Edited June 5, 2020 by Unforgiven

[RiotAct]

8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...how the hell does she think she can tell private businesses who they can or cannot rent rooms to?......DC has had some mayoral winners..."District of Columbia" sure fits...more drugs than the Columbian cartels......our nation's capital....sad....

Colombian*

 

Point well taken, though

[4merper4mer]

25 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Was he hanging with those bad apples, the Kennedy clan?

He was looking to rumble with the rival gang from Nantucket.  Mean streets.

 

Mass is the most racist place in America and Martha's Vineyard is whiter than a bleached dry erase board.  It's hysterical he was showing solidarity.,..,on Martha's Vineyard.  Was he in a plastic bubble at the time?

[Doc Brown]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

How's the federal budget doing?

 

40 minutes ago, Magox said:

She's a fraud

 

 

An opportunist as she's eyeing that VP slot.

[Dante]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You can't fight racism with more racism. It's just not possible to get a positive from a negative. 

 

But Marxists know this, and don't care. That's why they lie and couch their actual goals in things like "Critical Theory". 

 

 

What makes the reverse racism against whites even worse is that it's sanctioned by the state in the form of quota's. No hiring on merit. Try getting a job as a fireman or government worker. Been to a airport in the last 30 years?

Edited June 5, 2020 by Dante

[Needle]

6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I love the request regarding white women: "Guilt them into getting rid of their stright 'white' hair to show 'solidarity' with black women."

 

Just guilt them into it. Just shame them into it. Just bully them into it.

 

Seems like a reasonable, honest, respectful way to go about doing things.

Yes and what progress this movement has had on the black community. Shaming white folks will make things better. 

 

Most of these spineless white people are treating this whole thing as a moment to up their social media standing. It's basically the new Ice Bucket Challenge for these clowns. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

8 minutes ago, Dante said:

For her/them/Government it's easy. Just some sort of emergency, like a pandemic or unrest and everyone's legal rights go out the window. Easy peasy shortcut to communism.

 

...well if they refuse to evict, will she send in the National Guard for enforcement?...oh wait..............

[Unforgiven]

See this is what these dopey liberals and the democrat politicians still don't get:

THEY created Donald Trump....By their racism...focusing on races, genders, etc...

what got lost, and completely ignored, and to some degree ignored with extreme bias...

the white working class, no one is on their side. and the excuse? Well they are

privileged so they can shut up and vote democrat or else.

[Magox]

The New York Times is bowing down to the mob.

 

Thought Control

 

#Orwellian

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Finally!

 

 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

Finally!

 

 

 

Wow, really?

 

 

Of course, I would be disingenuous if I didn't point out that Shaun is not really black.............................................Oooh, I feel Bidenish  ?

 

 

 

 

 

[SydneyBillsFan]

I'll concede that living Down Under may just affect the oxygen flow to my brain so please - help me understand something here:

 

A redneck hillbilly cop takes law enforcement (and disrespect) too far, which ends with 1 death - resulting in squillions of violent protestors and cries of racism.

 

An evil communist regime deliberately masks the spread of a deadly pathogen resulting in over 350,000 deaths - zero protestors and cries of "racism"

 

Someone?...Anyone...?

Edited June 5, 2020 by SydneyBillsFan

[Jauronimo]

4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

 

More snide crap.  Please show one comment from anyone in this thread stating any of the peaceful protests are illegitimate in any way.

 

Indeed people have lamented looting and rioting but that is it.  Your fake agreement, while you actually support the riots with is duly noted.

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

I don't really think you support the riots.  I just said that to mirror your wise ass insinuations about what others "secretly" feel about peaceful protests.  It's pretty see through.  Get better at it or don't do it.

 

 

Side point:  Why do you think people are protesting in London and Paris?

Illegitimate or invalid is a bit of an exaggeration on my part, but if you look at the attitudes expressed and the fact that this discussion (before there even was a single protester in the streets) was lumped into a thread titled "Liberal Protests" I think you'll find the issue underlying the protest has tepid support.  I don't know if you've taken the temperature in here lately but I don't think Liberal is used positively very often.  Tells you a little bit about the bias here.

 

Page 356 has a few sterling examples where the reason for the protest is completely dismissed.

 

Page 291 has the insinuation that is was a false flag and the rioting was all premeditated.  

 

Right at the start page 206, Never fail to take advantage of a tragedy.

 

Page 216, pre-planned protests and rioting.

 

Page 213 "Funny how there are no riots when one black person kills another black person on the street. Am I to assume that murdering black people is OK as long as another black person without a uniform does it? These guys should have bee protesting like this when all the jobs were getting shipped over seas."

 

It doesn't take much reading between the lines to surmise what these people think about the issues.

 

We have seen plenty of legitimate and informed discussion around the facts of whether black men are disproportionately killed by the police.   Some in this thread do not think the protesters have much of a gripe based on facts and stats.  Then you have the crazies in this forum who operate with impunity and post about false flags.  PPP needs to eat their own like the old days.  Bring back DC Tom and even that insufferable blowhard OCBills.

 

In any event, the difference between the Hong Kong thread and this thread are striking (which was my whole point) and the law and order folks can't claim this is all about rioting, violence against cops, or property destruction.  I believe the participants on this board have more sympathy for the citizens of Hong Kong than they do for their fellow Americans marching in streets and I think that has to do with the governments being protested and general views that BLM, police brutality, inequality, and injustice are a media creation.

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

I'll concede that living Down Under may just affect the oxygen flow to my brain so please - help me understand something here:

 

A redneck hillbilly cop takes law enforcement (and disrespect) too far, which ends with 1 death - resulting in squillions of violent protestors and cries of racism.

 

An evil communist regime deliberately masks the spread of a deadly pathogen resulting in over 350,000 deaths - zero protestors and cries of "racism"

 

Someone?...Anyone...?

[unbillievable]

Crime goes down if you don't have police to document incidents. Proven by previous police strikes. (NYPD)  

Remove law enforcement from DC and there will be 0 arrests, and statistically no crimes committed.

 

[unbillievable]

38 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

How's the federal budget doing?

 

An opportunist as she's eyeing that VP slot.

 

Social Justice is more important than Social Distancing.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/04/public-health-protests-301534

[mead107]

Cops walking off job in Buffalo. Just the start. 

[Justice]

11 hours ago, Troll Toll said:

Fox News hypocrisy!?!? She is criticizing LBJ and KD for their support of the Chinese government’s oppression of its people. Those same guys turn around and whine about BLM. I mean really, who are the hypocrites?

Can’t be a worse take on that video than this. It’s impossible. Criticize what LBJ says? Sure. Debate his remarks? That’s fine. Telling him to shut up and dribble? Not good. She can also just ignore him completely. Instead she said because LeBron ‘wasn’t elected and because he makes millions of dollars bouncing a ball’ he isn’t worthy of voicing an opinion. Hell thats fine too. But now she’s painted herself in a corner with every athlete and anyone else for that matter who isn’t ‘elected’. Treat them all the same no matter if you agree with them or not. What you don’t do is call Brees ‘a person’ (and LeBron isn’t?) who ‘has some value and is entitled to his opinions’, because she didn’t afford LeBron the same privilege. Disgusting! 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

29 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

I'll concede that living Down Under may just affect the oxygen flow to my brain so please - help me understand something here:

 

A redneck hillbilly cop takes law enforcement (and disrespect) too far, which ends with 1 death - resulting in squillions of violent protestors and cries of racism.

 

An evil communist regime deliberately masks the spread of a deadly pathogen resulting in over 350,000 deaths - zero protestors and cries of "racism"

 

Someone?...Anyone...?

 

 

...because the anarchy and push for socialism has long been in the planning stages, only needing an incident to launch.....an incident was bound to happen in the vitriol of the US political climate....authority is at the top of their rebuke....rogue cops will always exist and need to be punished...perhaps a better screening process for applicants is needed..but that is not the sole source of our societal ills...we in business are all guilty of bad hires.......socialism levels the playing field of the capitalistic " go getters" to feed the millennial types who want more for doing less or even ANYTHING....and we're NOT even considering the current menu of public assistance...Big Fredo and NYS pays out 62+ BILLION annually.......income redistribution is precisely it.........

[3rdnlng]

21 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Illegitimate or invalid is a bit of an exaggeration on my part, but if you look at the attitudes expressed and the fact that this discussion (before there even was a single protester in the streets) was lumped into a thread titled "Liberal Protests" I think you'll find the issue underlying the protest has tepid support.  I don't know if you've taken the temperature in here lately but I don't think Liberal is used positively very often.  Tells you a little bit about the bias here.

 

Page 356 has a few sterling examples where the reason for the protest is completely dismissed.

 

Page 291 has the insinuation that is was a false flag and the rioting was all premeditated.  

 

Right at the start page 206, Never fail to take advantage of a tragedy.

 

Page 216, pre-planned protests and rioting.

 

Page 213 "Funny how there are no riots when one black person kills another black person on the street. Am I to assume that murdering black people is OK as long as another black person without a uniform does it? These guys should have bee protesting like this when all the jobs were getting shipped over seas."

 

It doesn't take much reading between the lines to surmise what these people think about the issues.

 

We have seen plenty of legitimate and informed discussion around the facts of whether black men are disproportionately killed by the police.   Some in this thread do not think the protesters have much of a gripe based on facts and stats.  Then you have the crazies in this forum who operate with impunity and post about false flags.  PPP needs to eat their own like the old days.  Bring back DC Tom and even that insufferable blowhard OCBills.

 

In any event, the difference between the Hong Kong thread and this thread are striking (which was my whole point) and the law and order folks can't claim this is all about rioting, violence against cops, or property destruction.  I believe the participants on this board have more sympathy for the citizens of Hong Kong than they do for their fellow Americans marching in streets and I think that has to do with the governments being protested and general views that BLM, police brutality, inequality, and injustice are a media creation.

I for one have more sympathy for the Hong Kong protesters protesting for freedom than the violent protesters that are killing and injuring people, vandalizing and looting. The violent side of our domestic protesters are very well prepared to cause mayhem. Pallets of bricks being prepositioned around numerous cities seems to indicate a fair amount of premeditation.  

 

BTW, for those of you who keep pointing out all of the social injustice issues that blacks here in America are suffering from it should be noted that Trump's efforts have shepherded prison reform, better unemployment numbers and higher wages. The crazy Left has not only been opposing him since before he was sworn in but fighting him tooth and nail to reverse his policies. It's almost like those people wanted to keep blacks down on the plantation and dependent upon the Left to provide them minimum subsistence. 

[Deranged Rhino]