artmalibu Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 How would it be better? Fred gets cut either way. In fact it would be worse to cut him now. 6. Harvin The kid on the practice squad looked pretty good in the preseason games too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I think this cut was more Rex's doing than Whaley's. I don't think Rex ever warmed to Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 John Conner is a phone call away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 This probably has more to do with Brown's unhappiness the way he wasn't used week 1 and less about his talent. He probably demanded a release and the Bills didn't want an unhappy player in their RB room that is quite a talented bunch. I'm also sure this all happened prior to some effort to trade him for anything but there were no takers. While I liked Brown, he simply couldn't hang onto the football. Even in preseason with a year to work on it he was still fumbling. No matter how good someone is, if he is going to account for a TO every 1 or two games, that's tough. Bills are set with Shady, Williams, and Dixon. I'm sure Thigpen can fill in a pinch. They have Wood on PS. This allows us to bring back Dareus and keep our DL depth. Brown may succeed elsewhere, but odds are he will always have that fumbling thing looming, and no team can afford to count on a back like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 But but this doesn't fit with the crazy Freddy narrative.... Guess what folks, teams don't need 4 RBs on the roster. Bye Freddy, bye brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Well **** O.o I much prefer Brown over Dixon as a runner, but Brown doesn't do much on ST, so I guess it makes sense... I think we need another RB that is more capable than Dixon as a runner.... too bad Brown wasn't a special teams ace. Edited September 15, 2015 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Im in love with our rb group. Love me some Shady. Love me some Karlos. Love me some Boobie. Love me some Felton. (Felton was surely missed in Minnesota last night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Being a vested vet, I found it an odd signing. But maybe he is versatile? MarQueis might though! Omg I just about pissed myself!!!! Lol lol lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 If our worst fears are realized and NE* picks him up to learn the playbook, at least Rex will know his name.. WAIT! nevermind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 John Conner is a phone call away. Who isn't a halfback, and matters little here unless Felton goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Seven pages and a lot of hand-wringing over a guy was inactive 10 out of a possible 17 games here. Edited September 15, 2015 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Maybe it's a ploy. Cut Brown (compensate very well), hope the Pats pick him up to pick his brain for this weeks game. Pats fall for the bait, he gives them the wrong playbook. Pats think they're getting over on the Bills again, Bills win in rout! Bryce is cut next week, Bills re-sign him. Seriously though. Why cut anyone before the Pats game? We know they'll make a push to sign him. ***SIGH*** Edited September 15, 2015 by Eric95403 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Great. He was a bum who was elevated by too many here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Maybe it's a ploy. Cut Brown (compensate very well), hope the Pats pick him up to pick his brain for this weeks game. Pats fall for the bait, he gives them the wrong playbook. Pats think they're getting over on the Bills again, Bills win in rout! Bryce is cut next week, Bills re-sign him. Seriously though. Why cut anyone before the Pats game? We know they'll make a push to sign him. ***SIGH*** You might be on to something actually. Give him the wrong game plan and then cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He was JUST turning his game around too.... Seven pages and a lot of hand-wringing over a guy was inactive 10 out of a possible 17 games here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 You might be on to something actually. Give him the wrong game plan and then cut him. He already has the correct playbook. I dont think the coaches knew how good Karlos was going to be... This "trick" would not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He already has the correct playbook. I dont think the coaches knew how good Karlos was going to be... This "trick" would not work. Not the playbook, the actual game plan for the Patriots themselves. As I understand it the game plan consists of a subset of the playbook customized to that opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Pats interested ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Pats interested ? They don't like fumblers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 They don't like fumblers. I guess that's why they didn't want fumble fingers Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) I guess that's why they didn't want fumble fingers Fred. Guess you were wrong all those times you praised the almighty captain inactive Bryce Brown. Better than Fred indeed, although Fred is active and gets carries on Sundays as a member of the Seahawks. Edited September 16, 2015 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Strangely enough, I'm suddenly less upset with Whaley for cutting Fred. It's easier to wrap my mind around it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Guess you were wrong all those times you praised the almighty captain inactive Bryce Brown. Better than Fred indeed, although Fred is active and gets carries for some reason this past Sunday. It won`t be long little tyke until he finds a spot. I`m not going to cry,whine like you over it. Oh Freddy,oh. It`s a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Patriots released a WR today, so maybe we can swap playbooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Well, Bryce knowing ya... heyyyyyy ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Tip your servers, I'll be here all week....and try the veal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Cierre Wood has to be ecstatic about this. Someone goes down, he's likely on the active roster. Whaleys loves his multiple W's. 5 Williams 3 Wood(s) He probably plays scrabble using players' names and likes triple letter score with a 'W'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Wait, when did this happen!? OMG this team! Fall 2010. We've changed coaches 2x, general manager 1x, owner 1x, and CEO 1x since then, but hey, feels like yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It won`t be long little tyke until he finds a spot. I`m not going to cry,whine like you over it. Oh Freddy,oh. It`s a business. I haven't cried about the Fred cut once. Calling out the wrong person. Just clowning with you as I know you've said so many nice things about Bryce. Bryce will get Da'rick level love around here for the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I guess that's why they didn't want fumble fingers Fred. IIRC, they called him immediately. Fred didn't want them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I don't think he fleeced, the problem was you had a coach last year who would never play Brown. When he did play, he looked decent, minus the one fumble. Admittedly it was much easier to look good last season at RB as none of them were very good. But now they have Williams who did look real good. RB is the easiest position for a rookie to look strong at so are fine there, no worries about needing to start him due to injuries. At the time of the trade it looked like a good move to nab a guy buried behind Shady, who had a few bright spots. But then we found out how Kelly fleeced Whaley. Brown was pedestrian in preseason, and couldn't crack the active roster. When he was handed the starting job because of injuries, he promptly lost that job to a guy who shouldn't be a feature back. Part of the reason that Freddie's numbers declined last year is that they rushed him back too soon because Brown was unreliable. Then he gets another chance to impress the new staff yet elects to sit out nearly all voluntary OTAs. I hope that door wasn't too hard on that lazy rump on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Clay aint poundin the rock He can swing fb, to me that says he can handle a few touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I guess that's why they didn't want fumble fingers Fred. You mean when they called him within one hour of being released they wanted to wish him luck in his next job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 I guess that's why they didn't want fumble fingers Fred. Belichick loves Fred and they called his agent immediately after his release. Fred chose Seattle over the Cheatriots. If not, this week would have been tough to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I was surprised...until I recalled how good Karlos Williams looked Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I'd be surprised if they cut BB based solely on a pretty good first game by Williams. Maybe it was a personality thing? I could see Rex -- to a greater extent that almost any other coach -- sending guys packing if he doesn't get the right "vibe." And isn't blue cheese dressing everyone's favorite condiment? Mine is malt vinegar. Even have a recipe for chicken wings which use malt vinegar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Especially when they are willing to make moves. How do you want it Whaley bashers? Gutless and timid like Darcy Regier was. Waiting ad nauseum for the perfect trade or someone with some sack who swings for the fences but strikes out from time to time. I'll take the latter. Did I spell latter right? I love the reasoning sometimes on TBD: either you're fan or a hater/basher. No middle ground, no criticism permitted. For those high on Whaley, why haven't the Bills signed him to a long term contract extension yet? I suspect his last deal signed just before ascending to the GM role was probably a 3 year contract...which puts him through the 2015 season. And if he's the personnel genius some have made him out to be, it stands to reason ownership would be getting him locked up ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerbelly Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Still cannot believe we traded Lynch to Seattle for fourth round and fifth round picks (Hairston and Tank Carder). Lynch was a complete a-hole when he was here. At that point in time, the Bills made the correct decision in getting rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 How would it be better? Fred gets cut either way. In fact it would be worse to cut him now. 6. Harvin 7. Thingpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I never expected Whaley to score a 158.3% efficiency rating as a GM. He's going to throw some incompletes and picks. I'm personally still unhappy about cutting Fred Jackson. But I have to admit this: the roster has more talent now than it has in a long, long time. Considering how little Bryce Brown has meant to the Bills thus far, I'm not terribly surprised by this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 except fluellen is a vested vet - so hed be full years salary for one game instead of BB costing us like 50k against the cap. and its not like shady is being benched so who cares how he looked week 1 in that decision. I thought the reason Fluellen was cut and resigned was to get around that vested vet thing. Incorrect? Also, with Shady working his way back into the offense, I'd think it would have been a good idea to keep BB who could run the same schemes as opposed to the big north-south RBs on the roster... Lynch was a complete a-hole when he was here. At that point in time, the Bills made the correct decision in getting rid of him. Not in the locker room or on the field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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