Utah John Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, I'm not trolling or being intentionally argumentative. But here goes. We have a great defensive line, not just the starters but every backup as well. We have three really good LBs on the field, plus adequate backups. Where will Kiko fit next year, if the Bills are able to bring Spikes back? On the other hand, the Bills desperately need upgrades at a couple of positions on the offensive side, and they could stand an upgrade at safety as well. The question is, as good as Kiko is, would you trade him for a really good, proven, QB? How about two dominant offensive lineman? Or would you never want to trade him and are thinking of coming out to Utah to explain things to me in person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The only type of player i would consider trading a young talent like that for would be a good franchise QB. And no team is going to trade a good franchise QB for a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You are. this is idiotic. just stop. seriously, it's an idiotic idea, no team is going to give up a good proven QB for a LB with 1 good year and then a torn up knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 say what? oh hell no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 #1 -- injuries happen, so quality depth is a good thing #2 -- no guarantee they bring Spikes back The very fact the Bills were able to field this kind of a defense after losing Kiko should tell you the relative value of LBs in the trade market. You're not going to get a "good, proven QB" for Kiko. In my opinion, this is not a practical consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, I'm not trolling or being intentionally argumentative. But here goes. We have a great defensive line, not just the starters but every backup as well. We have three really good LBs on the field, plus adequate backups. Where will Kiko fit next year, if the Bills are able to bring Spikes back? On the other hand, the Bills desperately need upgrades at a couple of positions on the offensive side, and they could stand an upgrade at safety as well. The question is, as good as Kiko is, would you trade him for a really good, proven, QB? How about two dominant offensive lineman? Or would you never want to trade him and are thinking of coming out to Utah to explain things to me in person? No, no and no. I feel no need to explain it to you when you haven't bothered why you would not want one of the best young LBers on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don't think you need to worry about TBD posters coming out to Utah to explain things to you in person. You need to worry about Kiko coming out there. Lock your door. He will camp out on your couch and wait for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, I'm not trolling or being intentionally argumentative. But here goes. We have a great defensive line, not just the starters but every backup as well. We have three really good LBs on the field, plus adequate backups. Where will Kiko fit next year, if the Bills are able to bring Spikes back? On the other hand, the Bills desperately need upgrades at a couple of positions on the offensive side, and they could stand an upgrade at safety as well. The question is, as good as Kiko is, would you trade him for a really good, proven, QB? How about two dominant offensive lineman? Or would you never want to trade him and are thinking of coming out to Utah to explain things to me in person? You better hope Kiko never visits Utah John......or else, well, you know........Kiko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Good Lord. #kikoforskelton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS 56 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 No offense but are you out of your mind? No, let's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 SLB - Bradham MLB - Brown WLB - Kiko Best linebacking crew in the league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Accumulate playmakers, don't trade them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Shhhhh. Kiko can hear you. I'd be careful if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is a joke right Utah. Where will he fit? He will we hope be a pro bowl Wil LB. he was never meant to be a Mic LB. he was fantastic in coverage against TE, WR, etc., but pushed around given his size at the end of the year against Guards. His skills are perfect for the weak side. Our defense will be even better with him. I doubt we keep Spikes. I want to do so, but you have a cheaper option at Preston Brown. We also for once can create depth. I personally want the #1 defense in the NFL next year. We can improve our offense in free agency and the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 As president of the TBD lunatic fringe, I'd like to distance our organization from the comments of this poster. We do not, and have never supported actions that are deliberately harmful to our beloved team. We at TBDLF would like to encourage this poster to seek the help he CLEARLY needs. GO BILLS! -And bring back Brandon Kaufman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You don't look to trade awesome, young players on rookie contracts unless they are cray cray off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, OK, just asking, not recommending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 As president of the TBD lunatic fringe, I'd like to distance our organization from the comments of this poster. We do not, and have never supported actions that are deliberately harmful to our beloved team. We at TBDLF would like to encourage this poster to seek the help he CLEARLY needs. GO BILLS! -And bring back Brandon Kaufman. Is the Mario for Skelton campaign still alive and well though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Is the Mario for Skelton campaign still alive and well though? Oh, we disavowed those guys too. Drone strike them any time you feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Why dont we just trade Mario for Skelton? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 spikes is finished. kiko starts at weak side. brown plays strong side, he can cover a TE. I think bradham makes a nice middle LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, I'm not trolling or being intentionally argumentative. But here goes. We have a great defensive line, not just the starters but every backup as well. We have three really good LBs on the field, plus adequate backups. Where will Kiko fit next year, if the Bills are able to bring Spikes back? On the other hand, the Bills desperately need upgrades at a couple of positions on the offensive side, and they could stand an upgrade at safety as well. The question is, as good as Kiko is, would you trade him for a really good, proven, QB? How about two dominant offensive lineman? Or would you never want to trade him and are thinking of coming out to Utah to explain things to me in person? Kiko for a proven QB or two dominant offensive linemen? The polite answer is no team would give this up for one LB who has only played one year and coming off knee surgery...the non polite answer...really? someone will give us a QB or 2 dominant OL for Kiko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The only type of player i would consider trading a young talent like that for would be a good franchise QB. And no team is going to trade a good franchise QB for a LB. Especially a linebacker who had a serious injury and sat out a year. Never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Alaska Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 If Spikes is resigned, then Kiko most likely pushes a very talented Brown or Bradham to the bench...and the lowest linebacker on the depth chart, unfortunately, doesn't make the team. Can't imagine Brown or Bradham not starting, but what a advantage, having that kind of talent and experience on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 If Spikes is resigned, then Kiko most likely pushes a very talented Brown or Bradham to the bench...and the lowest linebacker on the depth chart, unfortunately, doesn't make the team. Can't imagine Brown or Bradham not starting, but what a advantage, having that kind of talent and experience on the bench. I doubt Brown or Bradham would be the ones getting pushed to the bench. They both already get more snaps than Spikes because they can both play the run and the pass well. Spikes would likely only be used in obvious running downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 No, don't trade Kiko. The idea in sports is to keep the good players and get rid of the bad ones. Most kids catch onto that when they are picking teams in gym class at age 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, OK, just asking, not recommending. But why? How does someone even have these bizarre thoughts? Then not only have these thoughts but actually talk yourself into thinking they are good ideas! OMG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Honestly IF you could get a franchise QB, I'd take it. But as stated before, no way that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Kiko for a proven QB or two dominant offensive linemen? The polite answer is no team would give this up for one LB who has only played one year and coming off knee surgery...the non polite answer...really? someone will give us a QB or 2 dominant OL for Kiko? Exactly what I was going to say. Yes, trade him for 2 dominant OL.... but it will never happen. Spikes will not be here next year. So Kiko goes outside next year with Bradham and Brown. We address the other areas through the draft and Free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Even if we did, Kiko would find his way home. kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'd do it.... for Andrew Luck. And his stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Kiko is the only one that trades Kiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 What if Kiko is our franchise QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 What if Kiko is our franchise QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Spikes is One & done. Some other team will pay him 3-down LB money, and he isn't worth that to the Bills. We need Kiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm in Utah. I can come over and explain it if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Depth is good. Kiko last year was better than Brown or Bradham this year, imo. Not really sure why we would trade away the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Kiko, Brown, and Bradham could be a phenomenal LB corps next year. I'm Not passing that up for a player on the downslope or unknown prospect QB. Especially with how we've done our homework on this subject in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 OK, I'm not trolling or being intentionally argumentative. But here goes. We have a great defensive line, not just the starters but every backup as well. We have three really good LBs on the field, plus adequate backups. Where will Kiko fit next year, if the Bills are able to bring Spikes back? On the other hand, the Bills desperately need upgrades at a couple of positions on the offensive side, and they could stand an upgrade at safety as well. The question is, as good as Kiko is, would you trade him for a really good, proven, QB? How about two dominant offensive lineman? Or would you never want to trade him and are thinking of coming out to Utah to explain things to me in person? BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!! *tears shirt, throws dirt on top of head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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