l< j Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 So if Tom Brady sucks for losing in the playoffs all the time, what does that make Jim Kelly? No one said it had to make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Syracuse Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 How many years will he continue to play? He is still very good but without a strong defense he will never win another Lombardi. I wish he would retire already so we can at least compete for a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) The Patriots* still haven't won it all since they were caught cheating. They probably still cheat in the regular season against lesser, low-life teams like the Bills... Probably because they are less under the microscope. Get to the playoffs and everybody is on to them! Is a Tom Brady supporter like being an athletic supporter. Be an "athletic supporter!" Oh wait! Cheaters never prosper, unless you have the NFL helping out. Maybe Tom and his buddy Belicheat need Marlin Perkins to help them out deciphering the word Omaha! Edited January 20, 2014 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 So if Tom Brady sucks for losing in the playoffs all the time, what does that make Jim Kelly? To be fair...Jim Kelly was quite good at winning in the playoffs. It was the Super Bowl that seemed to give him problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Weaker conference top to bottom, weak division, top notch coach, top notch QB. Not much more. You can say that again! Bills are the dunces in this class, all the rest have figured out the Pats* in the playoffs since they won it all last! Maybe the Bills should make the playoffs... They be the only team since the Pats* were caught cheating to NOT figure out that the Pats* like to cheat! I suppose Tom BJ rady would be happy then! LoL To be fair...Jim Kelly was quite good at winning in the playoffs. It was the Super Bowl that seemed to give him problems. Yep... And Tom has been to one more w/2 loses and 3 wins. The 3 wins were nailbiters. Count Norwood against Jimbo and Vinetari for Tommy Boy. Yep, he's got 2 more nailbiting wins against Jim in the Superbowl. Brady does belong in The Hall... That is a must, no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The fact of the matter us Brady and the Patsies have beaten the Bills way too many times the last several years so I'm with the group that says f%#& you Tom Brady, I'm glad you lost and I can't wait till the Bills have the upper hand in this matchup again!!! Bills forever!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 No more SB after spygate. Love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Tom Brady is an all time great QB who beats the Bills all the time. He's also a major dick. Bill Belichik is an all time great coach who beats the Bills all the time. He's an even bigger dick than Tom Brady is. If either was QB/coach of the Bills we would be building statues of them downtown and Jets fans and M!@#$s would be hating on them all the time. With that out of the way, why does anyone feel the need to come to the defense of these two when Bills fans simply like to rejoice when they fail? Why try to deny us what little bit of joy NFL football still manages to give us from time to time. The filter gets "mass holes" apparently Edited January 20, 2014 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Brady is a great QB no question about it. Anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves. I will say this Belichik after the game sounded like a guy who is realizing the end is nearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Tom Brady is an all time great QB who beats the Bills all the time. He's also a major dick. Bill Belichik is an all time great coach who beats the Bills all the time. He's an even bigger dick than Tom Brady is. If either was QB/coach of the Bills we would be building statues of them downtown and Jets fans and M!@#$s would be hating on them all the time. With that out of the way, why does anyone feel the need to come to the defense of these two when Bills fans simply like to rejoice when they fail? Why try to deny us what little bit of joy NFL football still manages to give us from time to time. The filter gets "mass holes" apparently I'm happy they lost. I don't know many Bills fans who aren't happy they lost. But when you come off saying they lost because they suck, because they aren't good, because they need to cheat to win, you sound ridiculous and you dilute the fan base into pure emotional and illogical opinions. That's why I come to their "defense." He's an all time great, you don't need to start saying he isn't because he's a division rival. It's an uneducated and downright sad opinion that ruins your credibility for analysis on anything because you're letting your emotions override the facts. Not talking about you personally, just anyone who tries to argue that Brady isn't a HoF, top QB to ever play. Edited January 20, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Oh yeah, just ask any number of women he's been involved with; he's a peach of a guy. That's always been my standard for dudes. Ask the scorned women they've dated for their opinion. Are you !@#$ing serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 That is hilarious. Nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 This is a truly shameful thread. I am as envious and hateful of Brady's success as any Bills fan, but he is great - perhaps the best of all time. Also, did folks notice that without Gronk, Hernandez and many experienced WRs (heck, a receiving crew similar to what the Bills had this year), that he struggled more than usual? In my opinion, this suggests that the quality of receivers a QB has at least affects the QB's productivity. Many here don't seem to want to acknowledge that EJ Manuel was young, inexperienced, had lots of missed practice time and had a very young (and currently) pedestrian receiving corp. Give EJ a full season and Colin Kaepernick's receiving options, OL and RB and maybe, just maybe, his stats would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 because they need to cheat to win Hey it's not BillsFanNC who said they cheated to win first, that was Roger Goodell. "This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell wrote in a letter to the Patriots explaining his disciplinary action. Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/home/2012/02/05/The-elephant-in-the-stadium-Spygate-s-cloud-of-innuendo-still-dogs-Patriots/stories/201202050276#ixzz2qzAcgApR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 http://forums.denver...641#post4916641 This is priceless! To bad it doesn't show Peyton knocking Brady out. Who is the ref Face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 "This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell wrote in a letter to the Patriots explaining his disciplinary action. Goodell continued, "Bygones." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) i watched that thing like 8 times through waiting for manning to just knock him out....my bad. hey barbarian, your signature says FA:RT....he he he...fart. Edited January 21, 2014 by swnybillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Friend sent me this link to a Pats forum, thought it might be of some interest. Brady's playoff performances I read some of the comments. Obviously a bunch of bandwagoners. Whining that their team was eliminated one game from the Super Bowl. Oh dear. A few people said they should count their blessings and enjoy the ride, but they were drowned out by all the whining. Amazing. I can only hope that the Patriots miss the playoffs sometime soon just to see what kind of reaction that gets. Edited January 21, 2014 by Gray Beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 awesome ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I doubt the Pats were the first team to win who cheated, they were just the first to to win who got caught cheating. I recall a story from back in the late 70's Raiders were playing the Steelers, Madden was still the coach, Raiders finished their practice, ready to hit the showers, Suddenly they are called back out to practice against some other formation, why because spy's had sneaked into stadium and watched Steelers practice. Reported back to Big Al, so now they were working on this. Raiders won game BTW From what I recall Pats were first turned in by their old assistant coach (Mangini was it?) who was now with the Jets' If Pettine goes to Cleveland, I'd bet he has plenty of info he could turn Rex in for doing illegally and likely even Buffalo. But it's kind of an unwritten line that normally isn't crossed, ex-coaches don't tell secrets of old teams. But for some reason the Pat's ex-assistant crossed it. Also kind of interesting that he has not coached since I beleive?? Hey it's not BillsFanNC who said they cheated to win first, that was Roger Goodell. "This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell wrote in a letter to the Patriots explaining his disciplinary action. Read more: http://www.post-gaze...6#ixzz2qzAcgApR Edited January 21, 2014 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I doubt the Pats were the first team to win who cheated, they were just the first to to win who got caught cheating. I recall a story from back in the late 70's Raiders were playing the Steelers, Madden was still the coach, Raiders finished their practice, ready to hit the showers, Suddenly they are called back out to practice against some other formation, why because spy's had sneaked into stadium and watched Steelers practice. Reported back to Big Al, so now they were working on this. Raiders won game BTW From what I recall Pats were first turned in by their old assistant coach (Mangini was it?) who was now with the Jets' If Pettine goes to Cleveland, I'd bet he has plenty of info he could turn Rex in for doing illegally and likely even Buffalo. But it's kind of an unwritten line that normally isn't crossed, ex-coaches don't tell secrets of old teams. But for some reason the Pat's ex-assistant crossed it. Also kind of interesting that he has not coached since I beleive?? They all cheated. Jimmy Johnson even fessed up to it after mangini spilled the beans. You think al davis or bill walsh or parcells or shanahan never pulled an equivalent move? If so, there's a bridge i'd love to sell you in brooklyn. There's a reason no one in the coaching fraternity criticizes belichik. Edited January 21, 2014 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 The Pats* are just like Barry Bonds' records*. There is always that doubt. The doubt will always be there. Are they both great? Sure. Do they need to be recognized as great? Sure. Tainted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I cant stand the Pats, obviously. But you have to respect them and acknowledge that Tom Brady is one of the best quarterbacks, ever. The Pats were fortunate to get him and BB, while the Bills got.... No one.... For over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 They all cheated. Jimmy Johnson even fessed up to it after mangini spilled the beans. You think al davis or bill walsh or parcells or shanahan never pulled an equivalent move? If so, there's a bridge i'd love to sell you in brooklyn. There's a reason no one in the coaching fraternity criticizes belichik. Do you have a link for this? One story I'm familiar with was in the 1970s the Cowboys practiced at a practice field next to a 6 or 7 story hotel. Whenever the Cowboys were playing the Redskins, they would rent out every room on the side facing the practice field for the whole week. George Allen was known to send guys there to film practice. I wonder if Marv was ever on this detail? But are we sure that was against the rules back then, or when Madden was coach? Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadDad Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No one is happier to see Tom Brady shed tears than I am. But he is still one of the best NFL QBs ever. He could lose every game till he retires and he would still be one of the best. Sorry. Deal with it. PTR Hate to say it, but you're right. I intensely dislike him and I'm certain that the devil is now beginning to collect on his debt, but he will go down as one of the all time greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 For those of you think NEsuccess is tainted: Opinions of the 4 Steelers Super Bowls featuring some of the great steroids abusers of all time. This cheating traces back to the 1960's when San Diego was the first to pound steroids and cruise to an easy victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 For those of you think NEsuccess is tainted: Opinions of the 4 Steelers Super Bowls featuring some of the great steroids abusers of all time. This cheating traces back to the 1960's when San Diego was the first to pound steroids and cruise to an easy victory. steroids abusers is far from SpyGate! Have they won a SB since the film and all other evidence was burned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 To bad it doesn't show Peyton knocking Brady out. Who is the ref Face? Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 That's always been my standard for dudes. Ask the scorned women they've dated for their opinion. Are you !@#$ing serious? Not my standard for some things, but definitely is my standard for class act gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 http://forums.denver...641#post4916641 This is priceless! That's pretty good, but I'd prefer to see brady get knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Pure jealousy that Brady has made the Pats great for over a decade. I'm sure Pats fans get so sad when you guys make fun of Brady. Pats* fans are obnoxious #@!holes that I don't give two #!@#! about. They cheated to do what they did, flat out. I would never be jealous of a cheater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 steroids abusers is far from SpyGate! Have they won a SB since the film and all other evidence was burned? Nope. They've only played in 2 Super Bowls, 4 conference championships and had an undefeated season. What a pathetic franchise. It's funny how people act like winning the Super Bowl is hard or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Nope. They've only played in 2 Super Bowls, 4 conference championships and had an undefeated season. What a pathetic franchise. It's funny how people act like winning the Super Bowl is hard or something. It is if you can't cheat anymore to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 steroids abusers is far from SpyGate! Have they won a SB since the film and all other evidence was burned? Some forms of cheating are okay while others are not? Brilliant logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 i watched that thing like 8 times through waiting for manning to just knock him out....my bad. hey barbarian, your signature says FA:RT....he he he...fart. same here. Very disappointing that it never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It always turns my stomach when Bills fans come out of the woodwork to take a mouthful of Tom Brady. It's like the cuckold who is dead set on making sure everyone recognize the truth and reality that the guy his wife's !@#$ing is superior to himself in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I doubt the Pats were the first team to win who cheated, they were just the first to to win who got caught cheating. I recall a story from back in the late 70's Raiders were playing the Steelers, Madden was still the coach, Raiders finished their practice, ready to hit the showers, Suddenly they are called back out to practice against some other formation, why because spy's had sneaked into stadium and watched Steelers practice. Reported back to Big Al, so now they were working on this. Raiders won game BTW From what I recall Pats were first turned in by their old assistant coach (Mangini was it?) who was now with the Jets' If Pettine goes to Cleveland, I'd bet he has plenty of info he could turn Rex in for doing illegally and likely even Buffalo. But it's kind of an unwritten line that normally isn't crossed, ex-coaches don't tell secrets of old teams. But for some reason the Pat's ex-assistant crossed it. Also kind of interesting that he has not coached since I beleive?? Incorrect. Even after ratting out Ol' Billy B Absentee (from the Super Bowl), Mangini still got the starting HC position in Cleveland and still works in the NFL as an offensive coordinatoor/QBs coach for the 49ers. He's no longer an HC because he's simply not good at it. Two stints showed that to be the case. Goes to show you that if their was an "unwritten rule" that you don't speak about cheating, no one cared that he broke it against Belichek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Nope. They've only played in 2 Super Bowls, 4 conference championships and had an undefeated season. What a pathetic franchise. It's funny how people act like winning the Super Bowl is hard or something. Again, I believe some may have misunderstood me. let me reiterate - They have done a unbelievable job year after year with practically nothing and succeeded (by tromping on the AFCE bottom feeders). The 6 easy wins from the division has helped them too. YET in the last 8 to 9 years they fell short. Have they won a SB since SpyGate? In the last 8 to 9 years they fallen short because they don't have to complete team. Curious Do you put the Steelers in the same category as they have been (sometimes) deep in the playoffs for most of the last decade? How about the Raves? The Saints?, Packers?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It always turns my stomach when Bills fans come out of the woodwork to take a mouthful of Tom Brady. It's like the cuckold who is dead set on making sure everyone recognize the truth and reality that the guy his wife's !@#$ing is superior to himself in so many ways. Someone had a bad personal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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