947 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 He's going to sign a modest 3 year deal with Atlanta, with a bunch of incentives & an out after 2 years. They'll tell him he's their guy, then they'll draft a QB in the 1st round anyway. Russ will be replaced after their bye week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 If he goes to ATL or PIT, he wins more games than last year with The Guy Who Rolled The Ball Out To Drew Brees..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: Steelers are dumb if they don't jump on this. A 70% Russ is better than Pickett and Rudolph combined. Steelers are dumb either way so it all works out. 😉 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, wppete said: Possibly the worst trade of all time. The amount of money and assets traded for him was insane and he did absolutely nothing for denver. It wasn't the trade. It was the contract extension. That's what really crippled the Broncos. 40 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Largest dead cap hits in NFL history: Russell Wilson ($85M) Matt Ryan ($40.53M) Aaron Rodgers ($40.31M) Carson Wentz ($33.8M) Russell Wilson, again ($26M) Until Deshaun. Records are made to be broken! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Sean and Russ did not get along at all. It never would have worked between these two. They were worse than oil and water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 The QB who killed Nate Hackett's career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: Steelers are dumb if they don't jump on this. A 70% Russ is better than Pickett and Rudolph combined. RW and Mike Tomlin does not seem like a good fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He's still a very good QB. Problem is, he is a locker room cancer. One day all the true stories will come out. He is the sort to believe his own press clippings when they are good, it appears he is a D - bag / sh-tty teammate, Imo he is done as a viable QB, and will milk his former reputation as an actual football player for a few more years and then fade away, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Russel Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers.. all great QBs. Once they turned about 32-33 they just got weird… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 That’s an insane amount of dead cap. He must be miserable to be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 17 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: The QB who killed Nate Hackett's career. The QB who exposed Hackett as a total bum, you mean. His career didn't end in Denver..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Bills aPHILLYate said: I don't see how he doesn't end up in either Atl, Pitt, LV, NYG Imagine LV and he picks apart the Broncos twice next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 But he was cooking so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, wppete said: Possibly the worst trade of all time. The amount of money and assets traded for him was insane and he did absolutely nothing for denver. This was a pretty bad trade, but I think the Cowboys-Vikings trade involving Herschel Walker was one of the NFL's worst. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 39 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: The QB who killed Nate Hackett's career. And here I was thinking that was EJ Manuel. Knowing the charmed life Nate Hackett has lived, I fully expect he'll get yet another life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, wppete said: Possibly the worst trade of all time. The amount of money and assets traded for him was insane and he did absolutely nothing for denver. It's certainly in the running. Top 3 have to be Hershel Walker, Deshaun Watson and Wilson... Hard to think of any more worse than these three. Although Bills pulled off some great ones including OJ Simpson and Tom Cousineau ultimately becoming Jim Kelly. 40 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: He is the sort to believe his own press clippings when they are good, it appears he is a D - bag / sh-tty teammate, Imo he is done as a viable QB, and will milk his former reputation as an actual football player for a few more years and then fade away, Possibly. I thought he played ok down the stretch. He is certainly better than at least 10 of the starting QBs that played last year. He will start somewhere. Pitts, Chicago, LV, New England, Atlanta, and New Orleans are all places he could walk in and start even if it meant the QB of the future sat for a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 11 minutes ago, notwoz said: This was a pretty bad trade, but I think the Cowboys-Vikings trade involving Herschel Walker was one of the NFL's worst. Pretty bad is a bit of an understatement the number of picks and cap hit they've taken from this whole thing probably put it as a contender for worst one of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: And here I was thinking that was EJ Manuel. Knowing the charmed life Nate Hackett has lived, I fully expect he'll get yet another life. Isn't he on his 4th life now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Mark Vader said: Isn't he on his 4th life now? The Jets haven't fired him ... yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: It's certainly in the running. Top 3 have to be Hershel Walker, Deshaun Watson and Wilson... Hard to think of any more worse than these three. Although Bills pulled off some great ones including OJ Simpson and Tom Cousineau ultimately becoming Jim Kelly. Went back to look it up. Quote On March 16, 2022, the Seahawks traded Wilson and a fourth-round pick to the Broncos in exchange for two first-round picks, two second-round picks, a fifth-round pick, quarterback Drew Lock, defensive lineman Shelby Harris, and tight end Noah Fant. On September 1, 2022, Wilson signed a five-year, $245 million contract extension with the Broncos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Pretty bad is a bit of an understatement the number of picks and cap hit they've taken from this whole thing probably put it as a contender for worst one of all time. The trade led to three Cowboys Super Bowl Titles: 92, 93 and 95. That trade was before the cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I have a feeling Sean Payton is going to leave the Broncos in exactly the same shape he left the Saints in ... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He's still a very good QB. Problem is, he is a locker room cancer. One day all the true stories will come out. I am not sure he is a very good Quarterback. He was the worst starter in football in 2022. He was slightly better in 2023 but still bottom 3rd. But you are right about the locker room stuff. Some of what I have heard about Seattle was truly unbelievable. And you just have to hear how the guys off that team talk about him. Normally players will go to bat for a QB who helped them get a ring, however, with that squad their defense of Russ is always flimsy and conditional. Which makes the think I should believe the unbelievable. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Steptide said: His cap hit is 85 MILLION Even so, if you are Denver, better to take the cap pain now rather than suffer through another year of the anti-leader and mediocre player that is Russel Wilson. They need to start building their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, mannc said: RW and Mike Tomlin does not seem like a good fit. Agree. The most authentic coach in football with the leadt authentic Quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Zach Wilson to Denver if he'll wear #3 - think of the money saved on unis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: They said he acted like he was running for political office and not trying to be the leader of a team. I don't think he's a jerk I just don't think he fit in with the locker room culture That doesn't even scratch the surface. Trust me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Largest dead cap hits in NFL history: Russell Wilson ($85M) Matt Ryan ($40.53M) Aaron Rodgers ($40.31M) Carson Wentz ($33.8M) Russell Wilson, again ($26M) Teams have eaten $111M in the last 3 years to NOT have Russell Wilson in their locker room. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Looking around the league, it is REALLY hard to find a team that makes a lot of sense from the stand point of being an NFL starter. From a team need perspective, Steelers are the only one I can look at and Wilson likely makes that team better on the field, and that is more about how bad the Steeler QB's are than it is about how good Wilson is today. With the defense and run game, Wilson doesn't have to carry the offense kind of like the early days in Seattle when they went to back to back SB's winning one. However, from a culture stand point, Steelers feel like a bad fit and I have a hard time seeing Pittsburgh being interested. So I don't know where he goes and gets a chance to start other than to say keep the seat warm for a rookie. And you got to imagine teams are going to be concerned after the Broncos said they would rather have an $85M dead cap hit than see him QB another game for them. I mean, thats a pretty huge statement and from a team that has Sean Payton as an offensive HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 hours ago, H2o said: Russ and Ciara on the way for him to file for unemployment HA HA not a wilson fan so HAHA ! 17 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Looking around the league, it is REALLY hard to find a team that makes a lot of sense from the stand point of being an NFL starter. From a team need perspective, Steelers are the only one I can look at and Wilson likely makes that team better on the field, and that is more about how bad the Steeler QB's are than it is about how good Wilson is today. With the defense and run game, Wilson doesn't have to carry the offense kind of like the early days in Seattle when they went to back to back SB's winning one. However, from a culture stand point, Steelers feel like a bad fit and I have a hard time seeing Pittsburgh being interested. So I don't know where he goes and gets a chance to start other than to say keep the seat warm for a rookie. And you got to imagine teams are going to be concerned after the Broncos said they would rather have an $85M dead cap hit than see him QB another game for them. I mean, thats a pretty huge statement and from a team that has Sean Payton as an offensive HC. From a culture standpoint, they All a bad fit ? But how about New England for amusement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 He’s on a plane to NE as we speak… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He’s on a plane to NE as we speak… I thought this as well. They have a ton of cap space and can afford to over pay him, at least a little, not give him what Denver gave him. He could be a good bridge qb for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Time to discuss trading Josh Allen at the draft and signing Russ to a vet minimum so they can load up on defense…about 10 people on this board…probably 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills aPHILLYate Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, fan_in_tx said: Imagine LV and he picks apart the Broncos twice next year. I think that would be the automatic spite move. You walk right into Adams as a #1 and you can hold off on the qb search for a couple years. I think Payton as HC hindered them more than anything But I think ATL would be crazy not to make an offer and I think they'll be the top suitor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 4 hours ago, H2o said: Russ and Ciara on the way for him to file for unemployment The "I'm gonna make $86 million more in Walmart Bucks just by sitting on my ass" dance Edited March 5 by The Frankish Reich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Cortland Sutton come on down!!!! Trade for him then draft Worthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 But I thought it would be impossible to release Miller 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, DCofNC said: But I thought it would be impossible to release Miller 😂 I’d wait until camp if we make that move. Releasing him and finding out later he’s “still got it” would be horrendous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d wait until camp if we make that move. Releasing him and finding out later he’s “still got it” would be horrendous. True, might as well wait and see, just go post June 1 if he’s still less valuable on the field than he is being off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 So wild to me that they are still on the hook for something in the ballpark of $30m this year… Dude absolutely made out. Guess the stupidity really is unliiiiiimited… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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