khlax3 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 With FA less than a month away I figured it was time to start taking a look at some. Value free agents. With limited cap space but plenty of needs the Bills will need to hopefully find guys who can provide value and fill roles a low cost. Our impact players are most likely going to come from the draft. Here is a list I started to get some discussion going. Look forward to seeing other names people think could be a fit at a low to moderate cost. RB: Antonio Gibson (Washington) AJ Dillion (GB) D’ Onta Foreman (Chi) Gus Edwards (Bal) Clyde Edwards Helaire (KC) Kareem Hunt (Cleveland) J.K. dobbins (Bal) WR: Kendrick Bourne (NE) Nelson Agholar (Bal) Josh Reynolds (Detroit) Donovan People’s Jones (Det) Darnell Mooney (Chi) Dj Chark (Car) Slightly more costly but not top dollar: Tyler Boyd (cincy) Curtis Samuel (wash) Hollywood brown (Arizona) Saftey: Julian Blackmon (colts) Jordan Fuller (Rams) Jermey chin (panthers) Mike Edwards (KC) Dashon Elliot (Miami) Tashon Gibson (SF) DT: Tiare Tart (titans-Texans) Maurice Hurst (Cleveland) Javon Kinlaw (SF) Raekwon Davis (Miami) 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I feel like Jeremy Chin would be a seamless fit in Buffalo but I’d imagine he’s going to get a huge contract 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I’d really love to add Kendrick Bourne. He’s a nice player. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I’d go Mooney, AJ Dillon/Gus Edwards & Tashon Gibson and Mike Edwards if that list is the only options we can acquire. If you’re breaking the bank a little more: Bourne, Mike Edwards and Chinn & Kinlaw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’d really love to add Kendrick Bourne. He’s a nice player. We need a guy who can stretch the field. Bourne isn’t that guy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: We need a guy who can stretch the field. Bourne isn’t that guy 😂 Maybe not but he’s averaged 12.9 yard p/c in his career… Got to be some downfield action in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) prediction time…. .How many new players are they going to sign over $3m per year this offseason? Might be 3 but if they bring back DQJ and AJE…. might end up being 1 … Edited February 16 by Aussie Joe 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 17 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: We need a guy who can stretch the field. Bourne isn’t that guy We need more than 1 guy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 7 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I feel like Jeremy Chin would be a seamless fit in Buffalo but I’d imagine he’s going to get a huge contract It will be interesting to see what market he has the safety position is loaded in free agency and Chinn hasn't played good football the last 2 yrs. Plus safeties usually don't get to much money I'm thinking hell sign a 1yr prove it deal for 5mil with a team that's fits his scheme fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 7 hours ago, khlax3 said: With FA less than a month away I figured it was time to start taking a look at some. Value free agents. With limited cap space but plenty of needs the Bills will need to hopefully find guys who can provide value and fill roles a low cost. Our impact players are most likely going to come from the draft. Here is a list I started to get some discussion going. Look forward to seeing other names people think could be a fit at a low to moderate cost. RB: Antonio Gibson (Washington) AJ Dillion (GB) D’ Onta Foreman (Chi) Gus Edwards (Bal) Clyde Edwards Helaire (KC) Kareem Hunt (Cleveland) J.K. dobbins (Bal) WR: Kendrick Bourne (NE) Nelson Agholar (Bal) Josh Reynolds (Detroit) Donovan People’s Jones (Det) Darnell Mooney (Chi) Dj Chark (Car) Slightly more costly but not top dollar: Tyler Boyd (cincy) Curtis Samuel (wash) Hollywood brown (Arizona) Saftey: Julian Blackmon (colts) Jordan Fuller (Rams) Jermey chin (panthers) Mike Edwards (KC) Dashon Elliot (Miami) Tashon Gibson (SF) DT: Tiare Tart (titans-Texans) Maurice Hurst (Cleveland) Javon Kinlaw (SF) Raekwon Davis (Miami) Players I hope Bills target RB - Foreman or Dillion Wr - Duvernay more for KR/PR Gimmick role on offense. Mooney would be nice but I believe he'll get at least 8mil per season . Safety- Chinn or Blackmon DT Davis & Tart 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) On 2/15/2024 at 8:35 PM, khlax3 said: With FA less than a month away I figured it was time to start taking a look at some. Value free agents. With limited cap space but plenty of needs the Bills will need to hopefully find guys who can provide value and fill roles a low cost. Our impact players are most likely going to come from the draft. Here is a list I started to get some discussion going. Look forward to seeing other names people think could be a fit at a low to moderate cost. RB: Antonio Gibson (Washington) AJ Dillion (GB) D’ Onta Foreman (Chi) Gus Edwards (Bal) Clyde Edwards Helaire (KC) Kareem Hunt (Cleveland) J.K. dobbins (Bal) WR: Kendrick Bourne (NE) Nelson Agholar (Bal) Josh Reynolds (Detroit) Donovan People’s Jones (Det) Darnell Mooney (Chi) Dj Chark (Car) Slightly more costly but not top dollar: Tyler Boyd (cincy) Curtis Samuel (wash) Hollywood brown (Arizona) Saftey: Julian Blackmon (colts) Jordan Fuller (Rams) Jermey chin (panthers) Mike Edwards (KC) Dashon Elliot (Miami) Tashon Gibson (SF) DT: Tiare Tart (titans-Texans) Maurice Hurst (Cleveland) Javon Kinlaw (SF) Raekwon Davis (Miami) RB - Re-sign Ty Johnson and Draft a Heavy in Rounds 5-7 WR - Draft 1 in Round 1, Draft another in Round 4 or 5, save a little money and wait for musical chairs to end late in FA (like Leonard Floyd) S - Re-sign Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis. Draft someone in Round 3-5 DT - Re-sign Daquan Jones and/or Draft a guy in Round 2-3, another 5-7. Edited February 18 by BillsFanForever19 11 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Very solid list and a great thread to keep an eye on imo. A few of these guys on top of a draft that we mostly nail could really keep us right there in the running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 10 hours ago, khlax3 said: With FA less than a month away I figured it was time to start taking a look at some. Value free agents. With limited cap space but plenty of needs the Bills will need to hopefully find guys who can provide value and fill roles a low cost. Our impact players are most likely going to come from the draft. Here is a list I started to get some discussion going. Look forward to seeing other names people think could be a fit at a low to moderate cost. RB: Antonio Gibson (Washington) AJ Dillion (GB) D’ Onta Foreman (Chi) Gus Edwards (Bal) Clyde Edwards Helaire (KC) Kareem Hunt (Cleveland) J.K. dobbins (Bal) WR: Kendrick Bourne (NE) Nelson Agholar (Bal) Josh Reynolds (Detroit) Donovan People’s Jones (Det) Darnell Mooney (Chi) Dj Chark (Car) Slightly more costly but not top dollar: Tyler Boyd (cincy) Curtis Samuel (wash) Hollywood brown (Arizona) Saftey: Julian Blackmon (colts) Jordan Fuller (Rams) Jermey chin (panthers) Mike Edwards (KC) Dashon Elliot (Miami) Tashon Gibson (SF) DT: Tiare Tart (titans-Texans) Maurice Hurst (Cleveland) Javon Kinlaw (SF) Raekwon Davis (Miami) I venture a guess that CEH is on their radar. First off he should pretty inexpensive. Second, he worked with Joe Brady at LSU. Third, he's played well against the Bills in the past. Beane has made a habit of signing guys that show out well against us in the past. A couple other RBs to keep an eye on. Familiar faces in Zack Moss and Motor Singletary are expected to be in the FA pool. And we know that Beane likes bringing back people that have played here before. Saying that, I'm not advocating for any of them. Just saying what I could see the team doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 10 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I feel like Jeremy Chin would be a seamless fit in Buffalo but I’d imagine he’s going to get a huge contract A DB from Carolina signing with the Bills ought to create a lot of fun on this board. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 For Rb I really like Ty Johnson, I thought he was very productive. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Laviska Shenault is my value WR signing 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I feel like Jeremy Chin would be a seamless fit in Buffalo but I’d imagine he’s going to get a huge contract I'm not sure he will. He has been pretty bad the last two years. 5 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Laviska Shenault is my value WR signing He stinks. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: For Rb I really like Ty Johnson, I thought he was very productive. Was he though? Ended the year with 132 yards rushing. 62 yards receiving. Of his 132 yards on the ground, 54 came in the Dallas game where they just could not stop the running game. Of his 62 yards in the air, 47 came in one game against the Jets. I do like the way he runs, but I don't think he's more than a practice squad guy with maybe a RB3 ceiling. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Was he though? Ended the year with 132 yards rushing. 62 yards receiving. Of his 132 yards on the ground, 54 came in the Dallas game where they just could not stop the running game. Of his 62 yards in the air, 47 came in one game against the Jets. I do like the way he runs, but I don't think he's more than a practice squad guy with maybe a RB3 ceiling. Totally agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: RB - Re-sign Ty Johnson and Draft a Heavy in Rounds 5-7 WR - Draft 1 in Round 1, Draft another in Round 4 or 5, save a little money and wait for musical chairs to end late on FA (like Leonard Floyd) S - Re-sign Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis. Draft someone in Round 3-5 DT - Re-sign Daquan Jones and/or Draft a guy in Round 2-3, another 5-7. And we need to draft a DE who can get to the QB Edited February 16 by SoonerBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Safety is where the value is. Possibly DT. We just happen to have openings. Edited February 16 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Didn't Curtis Samuel have a career year with Joe Brady in Carolina? Personally, I'd like Hollywood Brown because of the speed Edit: Samuel ran a 4.31 Edited February 16 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Assuming the price is right, I think Curtis Samuel could be everything we hoped McKenzie and Hardy could be in this offense. I also think Mooney could be a nice bargain basement pickup: he's never had a legitimate passing threat at the QB position, and I think pairing him with Josh could help him explode -- or at least evolve into J. Brown type production. Regardless, the team still needs to draft a prototype deep threat WR. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said: Assuming the price is right, I think Curtis Samuel could be everything we hoped McKenzie and Hardy could be in this offense. I also think Mooney could be a nice bargain basement pickup: he's never had a legitimate passing threat at the QB position, and I think pairing him with Josh could help him explode -- or at least evolve into J. Brown type production. Yea Mooney is interesting to me. Spotrac reckons $10m AAV. I think he might get more than that but if that is indeed the price I'd 100% do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea Mooney is interesting to me. Spotrac reckons $10m AAV. I think he might get more than that but if that is indeed the price I'd 100% do it. Only 26. I'll assume his Target to Reception ratio is lower than it should be mostly due to QB play. If we could get the production he had in 2021 that would be a solid addition 4.38 speed https://www.chicagobears.com/video/brisker-and-gordon-developing-into-stars-thayer-s-playbook Edited February 16 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 40 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Didn't Curtis Samuel have a career year with Joe Brady in Carolina? Personally, I'd like Hollywood Brown because of the speed He did and according to https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/03/26/curtis-samuel-fit-washington-football-offense/ In 2020, new Panthers coordinator Joe Brady used him in the slot about 60 percent of the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He did and according to https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/03/26/curtis-samuel-fit-washington-football-offense/ In 2020, new Panthers coordinator Joe Brady used him in the slot about 60 percent of the time. Very surprised to find Samuel had a 4.31 40 time Mooney or Samuel should be a pretty solid upgrade from Sherfield as WR4 at least 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 They will find a way to grab two or three guys on this list and that’s phenomenal especially on a one-year deal. Curtis Samuel has a ton of talent and who wouldn’t want to come enjoy the last couple years of their prime catching passes from Josh Allen. That’s a huge selling point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 25 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: They will find a way to grab two or three guys on this list and that’s phenomenal especially on a one-year deal. Curtis Samuel has a ton of talent and who wouldn’t want to come enjoy the last couple years of their prime catching passes from Josh Allen. That’s a huge selling point. Plus he already knows Joe Brady. I'd guess the likelihood of him signing here is fairly high. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khlax3 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, 2003Contenders said: Assuming the price is right, I think Curtis Samuel could be everything we hoped McKenzie and Hardy could be in this offense. I also think Mooney could be a nice bargain basement pickup: he's never had a legitimate passing threat at the QB position, and I think pairing him with Josh could help him explode -- or at least evolve into J. Brown type production. Regardless, the team still needs to draft a prototype deep threat WR. I agree with you. I think they need to draft a top prospect but also find a veteran you can count on as well. Samuel or Mooney make a lot of sense in that regard. If you only bring in rookies and no veteran and they struggle year 1 your WR is worse than this year assuming gave us gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Probably going to be like last offseason… Beane will target a guy he wants early then wait for the money to spent up and target some minimum salary type guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Just focusing on WRs, Bourne is probably the guy I like the most that I'm highly confident will be cheap. Having said that, there are so many free agent WRs and so many high quality WR prospects in the draft, somebody will unexpectedly have a pretty dry market and I'd love to be the team that takes advantage of that. Hollywood is a good potential example of that; if he's cheap, that's an obvious move to make IMO. Likewise if god forbid someone like Ridley ends up needing to settle for a 1 year prove it type deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 17 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: We need a guy who can stretch the field. Bourne isn’t that guy I agree, however I don’t see any reason why we need to go after a FA WR when this years draft class is very deep. With our big contracts on the books (some bad), I am a fan of grabbin a rook WR that is NFL ready or very close to… Edited February 16 by billsfan_34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khlax3 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 8 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I agree, however I don’t see any reason why we need to go after a FA WR when this years draft class is very deep. With our big contracts on the books (some bad), I am a fan of grabbin a rook WR that is NFL ready or very close to… You have to bring in at least 1 proven wr. He doesn’t have to be a star but someone you can count on. There is no guarantee whoever you draft is going to be star year 1. Even if they are if diggs goes down your looking at shakir and a rookie. We need more than that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, khlax3 said: You have to bring in at least 1 proven wr. He doesn’t have to be a star but someone you can count on. There is no guarantee whoever you draft is going to be star year 1. Even if they are if diggs goes down your looking at shakir and a rookie. We need more than that Good point for sure. I think Hardy will see an increased role and we will see Cook split out more. Oh the offseason lol 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 We would have to trade for Hollywood correct? He fits we need in this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: We would have to trade for Hollywood correct? He fits we need in this offense. No. He's a free agent so he's likely out of our price range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust The Process Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) *VALUE FREE AGENTS ACCORDING TO MOSTLY SPOTRAC AND PFF ANNUAL AVERAGE SALARY DEFENSE SS Jeremy Chinn: $3M SS Jordan Fuller: 6M SS Julian Blackmon: 6M FS Alohi Gilman: $4-$5M FS Darnell Savage: $4.5M FS Jordan Fuller: $6M DE Yetur Gross-Matos: I couldn't find a projected Average Annual Salary for Gross-Matos but should be affordable DE Clelin Ferrell: $3M DE Carl Lawson: $3M DE Marcus Davenport: 3.5M DE: Yannick Ngakoue: $4M DE A.J. Epenesa: $5.6M DE Tyquan Lewis: $6M DE D.J. Wonnum: $6.5M DE Jadeveon Clowney: $7.2M-$9M DE Denico Autry: $7.25M DE Andrew Van Ginkel: $7.5M DE Leonard Floyd: $8.1M DE Josh Uche: $8.3M DE Dorance Armstrong: $8.5M LDT Sebastian Joseph-Day: $3.5M LDT Raekwon Davis: $4M LDT Javon Kinlaw: $5.4M LDT Teair Tart: 4M RDT: Maurice Hurst: $1.5M OFFENSE RWR Jalen Reagor: $1M RWR Van Jefferson: $2.3M RWR Donovan Peoples-Jones: $2.7M RWR Devin Duvernay: $3M RWR: D.J. Chark: $4M (as low as 4M (A to Z Sports) and as high as $10.9M (Spotrac) RWR Kendrick Bourne: $5M RWR Josh Reynolds: $5.5M-$7M RB Ty Johnson: $1.1M RB Rashad Penny: $1.5M RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire: $1.6M RB J.K. Dobbins: $2M RB Ezekiel Elliott: $2.7M (I listed Zeke just because McBeane loves to sign veteran RB's) RB D'Onta Foreman: $3M RB A.J. Dillon: $3.5M RB Antonio Gibson: $3.6M Edited February 16 by Trust The Process 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I'm thinking the Bills right off the bat in FA pick up a safety, DT and WR. Then they will address safety, DT, DE, WR and OL through the draft and pick up a couple other players after the draft to fill in the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) If you can get King Henry on a 2 year deal for 5 mil per, go for it. He already asked James Cook about the best place to eat here at the pro bowl Many will disagree..fine. James Cook is pretty good. But, defenses don’t fear him. They fear King Henry. Having a formation with Allen and Henry option run would be a nightmare to defend and is very likely going to bring safeties closer to the line… that’s when you hit play-action deep home runs with your new speed rookie WR Shotgun sets with Cook and Henry on either side of Allen will make defenses hesitate for a half second after the snap. When Cook isn’t getting the carries he can be used on screens. Same with Henry. Maybe he goes to BAL or PHI….but he’s at least thinking about a visit here by asking where to eat. the dude is an athletic FREAK. His workout regime is nuts. He is also a great guy in the community. The Titans OL sucked the last few years. He’s still an elite back. Plus he eliminated Jacksonville for us to watch the Miami game in some peace having him in the playoffs could be a big time difference maker IMO SB Teams have a handful of elite players. We need more. Henry is one we can actually afford Edited February 16 by Warriorspikes51 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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