Mr. WEO Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Logic said: I have never seen MORE chatter for LESS good reason than that regarding Stefon Diggs. He has never -- NEVER -- publicly stated his dissatisfaction or desire to leave the team. Never demanded a trade. Never been anything but an A+ teammate, locker room presence, and team leader. Yes, he's fiery, and he wants the ball. So do all good WRs since the beginning of time. His fire FEEDS this team. Who do you most often see walking up and down the bench, getting in people's faces? That's right. Stefon Diggs. Yes, he could use some public relations classes on answering questions in a way that invites less speculation. Still, I feel most of the narrative that follows Stefon Diggs is completely unwarranted. Where's the endless, breathless speculation over George Pickens? AJ Brown? Garrett Wilson? All three of those guys have expressed more public dissatisfaction with their team, yet they don't get one tenth the coverage and speculation that Diggs gets. It's maddening. I wish everyone would find something else to do and quit creating drama where there is none. He should catch it more often then (and stop taking himself out of the game). The more he is targeted, the lower his catch % goes. In games with 10 or more targets, he has a catch % of 56. Also, this should go without saying/asking, but why would anyone here speak much about other teams' disgruntled WRs? Finally, he is absolutely his the sole creator of his own "narrative". Nothing could be more obvious. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Mirror, mirror, on the wall! Show me! Define me! I am the infinite telomerase! I am not an anti-existence! I am the perfect chain! I think you all know what I mean here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He should catch it more often then (and stop taking himself out of the game). The more he is targeted, the lower his catch % goes. In games with 10 or more targets, he has a catch % of 56. Also, this should go without saying/asking, but why would anyone here speak much about other teams' disgruntled WRs? Finally, he is absolutely his the sole creator of his own "narrative". Nothing could be more obvious. everyone apparently forgot the chaos he caused last off-season with his antics. Even Josh said they were working through some stuff. There are multiple people on here who have legit team sources proven many times over that have said the Diggs situation is not good. Screaming at Josh in his face in the room after games over perceived mistakes is unacceptable. Many of his interviews, he plays on both sides of the fence intentionally to fan the flames. This off-season he did so at the Pro Bowl and with Kay. Then took to X. He absolutely knows what he is doing and how it will be perceived. Plus he’s become invisible in the playoffs. Again, loved the guy since he got here…but I don’t know anymore. IMO Allen could really benefit from a fresh start Edited March 29 by Warriorspikes51 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 41 minutes ago, FireChans said: You’re standing by “never,” then? No, I'm not. That's why I said "you're right". If that's the linguistic nit you want to pick, you're correct. He has not been solely and exclusively a saint 100% of every day here. I'd still suggest that he has been a good soldier and a good teammate and a great leader far, FAR more often than he's ever been any kind of malcontent. It's not even close. The reputation does not match the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/22/2024 at 4:28 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Dont forger another twenty something in dead cap next year too lol No, that's either or, not both. If we trade him after June 1, we get to defer $22M or so of his cap into next season. If we trade him between now and then, we eat the whole $33M or whatever it is, THIS season - assuming the trade partner picks up his $19M fully guaranteed salary, workout and per-game roster bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Not cool. Edited April 3 by Warriorspikes51 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not cool. Who is CS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Starting to actively wish we trade him. Even if it costs more money for him to be off the team. 1 4 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Starting to actively wish we trade him. Even if it costs more money for him to be off the team. Or just ignore his twitter and not kill the cap/weaken the team at the same time? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not cool. The theme of every single one of his posts lately is clapping back at people saying he's overrated or toast. He seems to be pretty motivated to prove doubters wrong. He's been posting training videos on his Insta Story daily. Probably should just ignore them. He's looking a little thin skinned right now. But I don't take him saying he feels it's incorrect to say he's not important to Josh's success as some major "not cool" slap in the face. Edited April 3 by BillsFanForever19 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not cool. What's the issue? 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Starting to actively wish we trade him. Even if it costs more money for him to be off the team. I have liked what Diggs has brought to the field year in and year out. I appreciate all of his dedication and efforts. But, yes his act is wearing thin and as long as we get his production replaced I won't be sad when he goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: But I don't take him saying he feels it's incorrect to say he's not important to Josh's success as some major "not cool" slap in the face. The fact that you had to re-word what he said kind of tells on itself, yeah? I've never seen another WR claim they are "essential" to their QB's success. Let's call this what it is. I still think he'll be on the team. My patience with his act is just totally worn thin at this point. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 16 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Starting to actively wish we trade him. Even if it costs more money for him to be off the team. IMO, Diggs comment crosses “a line in the sand” and is direct disrespect toward Josh 1 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: IMO, Diggs comment crosses “a line in the sand” and is direct disrespect toward Josh Of course you do. You take great joy and run here the first chance you can when it comes to anything you read as a potential reason to trade Diggs for Draft Picks this year - as if getting people to agree that we should will make it more likely to happen. It's been your mission for months, posting about it across multiple threads on the daily. 30 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The fact that you had to re-word what he said kind of tells on itself, yeah? I've never seen another WR claim they are "essential" to their QB's success. Let's call this what it is. I still think he'll be on the team. My patience with his act is just totally worn thin at this point. Did I re-word? I thought I just added a section at the end, after he edited his post with another tweet. Like I said, I think he needs to just ignore randos on Twitter. He seems to be overly sensitive to people saying he's overrated or toast. It's not a great look. I'll admit that. He's coming across as insecure. But I see it as more of the same defending himself against people who say he's not important (or "essential") to Josh or overrated than outwardly declaring he's responsible for Josh's success. Edited April 3 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 38 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not cool. Maybe he's saying "you sure" in regards to Josh benefitting from Diggs? Maybe he's saying Josh is good even without him? No? Idk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Maybe he's saying "you sure" in regards to Josh benefitting from Diggs? Maybe he's saying Josh is good even without him? No? Idk that is possible, but wouldn’t the original comment he responded to then say, “is he essential to his success? Yes” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 33 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Or just ignore his twitter and not kill the cap/weaken the team at the same time? If I’m Beane, Id honestly just ask Josh Allen what he feels comfortable doing. Not sure how their relationship is, but when Diggs says stuff like that.. I’m letting Josh determine his fate here. Hes not good enough when it matter for all this constant bs. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: If I’m Beane, Id honestly just ask Josh Allen what he feels comfortable doing. Not sure how their relationship is, but when Diggs says stuff like that.. I’m letting Josh determine his fate here. Hes not good enough when it matter for all this constant bs. this seems like a logical approach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 13 minutes ago, SCBills said: If I’m Beane, Id honestly just ask Josh Allen what he feels comfortable doing. Not sure how their relationship is, but when Diggs says stuff like that.. I’m letting Josh determine his fate here. Hes not good enough when it matter for all this constant bs. 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: this seems like a logical approach If only Josh had spoken publicly about his feelings on Diggs recently: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If only Josh had spoken publicly about his feelings on Diggs recently: Wouldn’t expect Josh to say anything else publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Diggs is going to be here for at least a couple more years. There is just no justifying anything else with the dead money on his contract. If Diggs truly wanted out, which I don't think he does, he just has to go to Beane and tell him that he will rip up his current deal, agree to one with no guaranteed money, and then get traded. But with the guarantees in his current contract, trading or releasing him would be flat out dumb. All that said, it's the main reason we have to find our future WR1 in this draft. Diggs, even if he is here, is heading towards WR2 status sooner than later. We need to nail this pick and find a guy that could possibly be ready by the end of this season heading into the Playoffs that can grow into the new go to guy. EDIT: WHELP.... Guess they thought getting him out the door was worth 31 million dollars. Hopefully there is a plan in place..... Edited April 3 by sven233 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 54 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: that is possible, but wouldn’t the original comment he responded to then say, “is he essential to his success? Yes” ? True..true. Man do I just hope Diggs is not arrogant enough to basically throw that kind of shade in Josh like that. Unwarranted ya know. But if I were to guess, I'd say he is that arrogant. Kinda sucks to think though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, sven233 said: Diggs is going to be here for at least a couple more years. There is just no justifying anything else with the dead money on his contract. If Diggs truly wanted out, which I don't think he does, he just has to go to Beane and tell him that he will rip up his current deal, agree to one with no guaranteed money, and then get traded. But with the guarantees in his current contract, trading or releasing him would be flat out dumb. All that said, it's the main reason we have to find our future WR1 in this draft. Diggs, even if he is here, is heading towards WR2 status sooner than later. We need to nail this pick and find a guy that could possibly be ready by the end of this season heading into the Playoffs that can grow into the new go to guy. teams eat dead cap every year for players that they want to move on from / don’t want to be on their team anymore. it’s very likely he’s gone sometime between now and next summer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: teams eat dead cap every year for players that they want to move on from / don’t want to be on their team anymore. it’s very likely he’s gone sometime between now and next summer Yeah I don’t see Diggs on this team next year at all, he served his purpose and it’s time to get a young 1st round WR on a rookie contract in here to pair with Kincaid as Allen’s primary targets for the next 8-10 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, SCBills said: If I’m Beane, Id honestly just ask Josh Allen what he feels comfortable doing. Not sure how their relationship is, but when Diggs says stuff like that.. I’m letting Josh determine his fate here. Hes not good enough when it matter for all this constant bs. The ‘constant bs’ are just tweets. Usually cryptic. Seems excessive to me. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: The ‘constant bs’ are just tweets. Usually cryptic. Seems excessive to me. He just called out his QB tonight. That’s how it reads to me. 1 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) If he was 24 and not even close to his peak, garbage like this might be a problem. But he’s going to be 31. I couldn’t possibly care less at this point. I do believe he’s more just internalizing all the “choker” stuff he’s getting from folks and it’s ****ing him off. Enjoy the last 2 years of one of our best WRs the organization has ever had. No reason to be mad at the guy over nonsense like this. He’s much closer to the end and giving us much needed cap space. Hope we win it before he leaves. Edited April 3 by Big Blitz 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 His act is definitely wearing thin, it’s one thing when you produce and it’s another when you don’t. With that said, I don’t see any logical scenario where he isn’t with the Bills this upcoming season but a better than 50/50 chance he’s gone in 2025, unless he produces and the Bills win a championship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: He just called out his QB tonight. That’s how it reads to me. same. Maybe I’m perceiving it wrong, but it’s just really uncalled for by him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If only Josh had spoken publicly about his feelings on Diggs recently: This may 100% support your point but I would never subject myself to a 2 min clip from SPEAK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, FireChans said: This may 100% support your point but I would never subject myself to a 2 min clip from SPEAK. Not a fan of Shady's talk show, I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Not a fan of Shady's talk show, I take it? No it’s honestly the worst. I hate Emmanuel Acho. Shady is a blowhard “legend” but that’s to be expected. Acho is relentlessly bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Josh Allen is too nice. He needs to be a dick sometimes. This is one of those times. Edited April 3 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: IMO, Diggs comment crosses “a line in the sand” and is direct disrespect toward Josh Can you read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, FireChans said: No it’s honestly the worst. I hate Emmanuel Acho. Shady is a blowhard “legend” but that’s to be expected. Acho is relentlessly bad. If you're not watching speak for Joy Taylor you doing it wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: this seems like a logical approach That would be a gross overreaction to off-season nothingburger tweets. C'mon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 If he was in front of a mic saying it on camera instead of putting it in a tweet is it still a nothing burger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLawless Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Diggs is too smart to believe that. He knows better, which leads me to believe that he actually does want out of Buffalo. I didn’t think so before, but I do now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: The fact that you had to re-word what he said kind of tells on itself, yeah? I've never seen another WR claim they are "essential" to their QB's success. Let's call this what it is. I still think he'll be on the team. My patience with his act is just totally worn thin at this point. He is "essential"!! No other player on the roster is as essential to Josh Allen's success as Stefon Diggs!! Nobody!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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