SoonerBillsFan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 54 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Been hearing Babich praise for years now.. Seems to be super loyal and very respected by players and coaches Dodson had a great tweet showing Babich extreme love earlier today. I never heard a bad thing about this man, can't find Dodson twitter but if you got time check it out But this mentality is phenomenal and I feel was built by McD and this teams culture - PLEASE let this man have influence in who we draft on Defense. 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Some day, all these violent outbursts of yours are going to come home to roost. And when they do, it's going to be army of these coming for your wretched soul. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Poor guy... If the defense does well, he's just McDermott's puppet. If the defense under performs, he's the next scapegoat to protect McDermott. I like the promotion, just doubt he'll get fair credit for what he puts into it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Poor guy... If the defense does well, he's just McDermott's puppet. If the defense under performs, he's the next scapegoat to protect McDermott. I like the promotion, just doubt he'll get fair credit for what he puts into it. if he can get something out of the D line though he will be considered a genius … McD couldn’t get enough this year … and it’s not going to be better next year Edited January 31 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 It’s funny, I have never seen Bobby Babich before. I pictured him as this old guy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusefan66214 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Sweet! Now we can blame him next season when we lost to the chiefs in the divisional 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I thought Sean did a damn good job calling the defense given what he was dealt with injury wise. Not sure why he would give up his coordinator duties 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: It’s funny, I have never seen Bobby Babich before. I pictured him as this old guy That was his dad who coached our LBs before handing the role off to junior. 14 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: I thought Sean did a damn good job calling the defense given what he was dealt with injury wise. Not sure why he would give up his coordinator duties I'm guessing he felt he needed more time for his HC duties. And he may have also felt it was the right thing to do for Babich's career development. Edited January 31 by hondo in seattle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 54 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Poor guy... If the defense does well, he's just McDermott's puppet. If the defense under performs, he's the next scapegoat to protect McDermott. I like the promotion, just doubt he'll get fair credit for what he puts into it. I get where that comes from with how things always went with Frasier, but it's a different situation with Babich. Frasier had already failed as a Head Coach and is pretty old like if he was a HC now he'd be the second oldest HC behind only Andy Reid who is only 1 year older than him. At a time when offensive HCs were heavily favored that's an uphill climb. Babich much younger guy doesn't have that past failure on him, came up in an organization seeing first hand how to build a winning culture. I'm sure if the defense continues to play well he'll get his shot, and if nothing else it's a great launching platform to go somewhere else to prove it and get his shot still if he has too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: PLEASE let this man have influence in who we draft on Defense. Heck even the offense! Then maybe we would have Puka Nakua instead of Justin shorter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said: It’s funny, I have never seen Bobby Babich before. I pictured him as this old guy Gave a interview earlier in the season where he was really impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipnmi Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: McDermott preparing his next wave of human shields to prolong his career... A new OC and DC to blame if/when things go south! Are you paying attention, Pegula? You idiot! May I suggest you consider therapy before I add you to my ignored list. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Normally not a fan of seemingly automatic internal promotions...but this one I like. Bobby seems like a bright young coach that was likely to be a DC in 2025 if not sooner. Glad we are keeping him. Let's see if McDermott gives him full duties and lets him call plays or if he keeps playcalling and brings Babich along slower. Packers, Dolphins and Giants all interviewed him, so as far as automatic promotion - it was either promote him, or lose him I think. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Really hope he does ok. On one hand, it is good to see a guy do well and get promoted for doing his job well. That promotes good culture and willingness for good people to be in the organization. That is McDermott's strength. The contrarian in me just needs to point out that he is a McD disciple. So what will he add to the defense to get a better/different outcome? Maybe an outside voice even if running the same base defense would add some new concepts or wrinkles. To me this just signals more of the same. Is that good enough? It hasn't been in 7 years so why would we expect it to be any better next year. No doubt injuries took their toll. So maybe the outcome will be different next year. I have faith in only one person to deliver a Lombardi - Josh Allen. Beane please go get this guy some more weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Flipnmi said: May I suggest you consider therapy before I add you to my ignored list. Why wait, sling him in there now and avoid the rush. 2 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: It’s funny, I have never seen Bobby Babich before. I pictured him as this old guy His father Bob Babich coached for the Bills before he handed off to his kid Edited January 31 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Buckets said: What I was trying to get at is when did we get in the business of training coordinators when we should be concentrating on winning the SB. Don’t bother with this guy, he is on a constant whining rant, just look at his last ten or so posts, says it all right there, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Packers, Dolphins and Giants all interviewed him, so as far as automatic promotion - it was either promote him, or lose him I think. Oh, I agree. Even if he didn't get one of those 3 we likely lose him next cycle. Of course, having the 3 interviews with the promotion right after may lead to believe he was offered or likely to be offered at least one of them. I get that completely. I actually don't mind the Babich promotion at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: if he can get something out of the D line though he will be considered a genius … McD couldn’t get enough this year … and it’s not going to be better next year I dunno, when the D was healthy I thought McDermott did a good job. I may be in the minority, but in that rough stretch leading up to Dorsey's firing, I thought the D was the main reason we stayed in a quite a few games. Offense just couldn't get out of their own way, and basically made the D keep the game close until they finally started scoring points in the 4th qtr. Then again, they lost Milano & White and didn't get Douglas until the trade deadline, and were just up & down afterwards. Pats game was a dud though, so McD deserves all the s*** for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Flipnmi said: May I suggest you consider therapy before I add you to my ignored list. He's not already on it? Amazing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 21 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Then again, they lost Milano & White and didn't get Douglas until the trade deadline, and were just up & down afterwards. Pats game was a dud though, so McD deserves all the s*** for that. Those two things maybe related also Daquan Jones basically the defense had to fill a gaping hole in the middle along with it's best DB and like 2 weeks later Patriots game. Edited January 31 by Warcodered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I dunno, when the D was healthy I thought McDermott did a good job. I may be in the minority, but in that rough stretch leading up to Dorsey's firing, I thought the D was the main reason we stayed in a quite a few games. Offense just couldn't get out of their own way, and basically made the D keep the game close until they finally started scoring points in the 4th qtr. Then again, they lost Milano & White and didn't get Douglas until the trade deadline, and were just up & down afterwards. Pats game was a dud though, so McD deserves all the s*** for that. D Line … not the D as a whole … D line was pretty healthy all season… went missing over the course of season and disappeared completely come the Chiefs game … even Oliver who had a great year otherwise Edited January 31 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: Heck even the offense! Then maybe we would have Puka Nakua instead of Justin shorter I love the fact he goes by film first, measurables 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 It's better to keep our own coaches to push our philosophies instead of bringing in outside influence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Introducing your new LB coach, AJ Klein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornfed Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 This guy (Babich) has been breathing football for his entire life. ..... The Bills have been the 2nd best for years now. They're the only ones who can beat KC. ... I'm sayin....hold course and persevere. ..... Ya can't be impatient or panic. ... Carry on because we've been within inches. ... It may still happen. GO BILLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The guys done a great job with every position he’s coached. He earned it 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 My hope is he's given full control of the defense and although he'll must likely run some variation of Mcd D . I hope there's some added variance more hybrid approach to this D. We can't understate the fact that Andy Reid knows Mcd Defense to a T and it's time for more ranging philosophy. With all these free agents on defense it's also perfect time to switch up the players . The only problem with all this is he does too good and gets head coaching job next yr but then again that most likely means we won it all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The Manchurian DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Love it, when Babich was the safeties coach from 2018-2021 the team had great safety play. OK but the Bills were insanely talented at safety with Hyde and Poyer establishing themselves in 2017. But then he goes to be the LB coach and this team turns into Linebacker U all of a sudden. In 2022, he gets the best year out of a motivated Tremaine and gets a great year out of Milano. Then he follows up a good LB year with developing Bernard into a stud and then got great play from Dodson and so many other injury replacements. Other teams recognized this and wanted to poach him and the Bills kept him in house for a position that was basically vacant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Nice news. I’m guessing he might be the DC M-Sat, but McD still call the plays on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 32 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Nice news. I’m guessing he might be the DC M-Sat, but McD still call the plays on Sunday. This is my expectation too. That he essentially is responsible for game planning and installation but McDermott will remain the primary play caller. They might want to give Babich some packages that he calls - maybe he is responsible for the blitz package for instance, so when McDermott wants a blitz Babich calls it, to try and get his feet wet. I expect if the regime stays for multiple years Babich will end up as the primary playcaller. But in 2024 I'd be surprised if it is not still McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 14 hours ago, nedboy7 said: No it is whining when it is incessant. Which it is daily here. Whats the point of pointing out someone doesn't like McD EVERY DAY if he is the coach next season. It’s feckless ( and sickening to watch) to constantly brown nose a demonstrated loser from afar…..no matter the newest fall guy he promotes😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Don’t bother with this guy, he is on a constant whining rant, just look at his last ten or so posts, says it all right there, Hey thanks I didn't know I had a rep, just trying to add a little devil's advocate. Some times guys have a tendency to drink a little too much Kool aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 29 minutes ago, Buckets said: Hey thanks I didn't know I had a rep, just trying to add a little devil's advocate. Some times guys have a tendency to drink a little too much Kool aid. I was referring to “ the weatherman” not you, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Stunning!!! Lol, did anyone really believe for a second that McD would bring in an outsider for either coordinator job? Or that he will simply let Babich call plays on game days? how does this move the needle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Babich has been a winner each time he’s gained a new role. That takes smarts, determination and dedication. Lots of study involved with attention to detail This is a a good hire and don’t be shocked if McD gives him more freedom than you’d think ive been critical of McD-mainly game day decisions but as far as firing coaches and staff I think he’s spot on. If someone isn’t getting the job done why keep them around. Frazier was weak and Dorsey a fool. Took him too long on Frazier and I would have jettisoned Dorsey a few weeks earlier but both good moves if people on my teams aren’t cutting it they are simply asked to leave. No fuss no muss. Keeping them only devalues the efforts of the rest of the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, BigDingus said: Pats game was a dud though, so McD deserves all the s*** for that. I think Pats, Broncos, Jags (although extenuating circumstances) and then the playoff loss are the games this year where I'd say the D bore the brunt of the culpability for the loss. Jets was offense and special teams Bengals was offense Eagles was special teams - most notably Tyler Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Pats, Broncos, Jags (although extenuating circumstances) and then the playoff loss are the games this year where I'd say the D bore the brunt of the culpability for the loss. Jets was offense and special teams Bengals was offense Eagles was special teams - most notably Tyler Bass No way you can blame broncos on the defense. The D was the only reason we didn't lose that game by three+ scores. Offense turned it over 4 times and the d kept getting stops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Process said: No way you can blame broncos on the defense. The D was the only reason we didn't lose that game by three+ scores. Offense turned it over 4 times and the d kept getting stops. Fair. Responsibility probably split on that one. I just thought the defense and Sean's playcalling was a mess at the end. But you are right, the offense threw up over itself multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 hours ago, Zag20 said: Introducing your new LB coach, AJ Klein Let the guy take his vacation first...sheeesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Good move going forward for the Bills i think the future is very bright for the team with the 2 new coaches now if they can get a good ST's coach because ST's isn't a part of the team that we can be all smiles about . Edited January 31 by T master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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