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I’m proud of you all as a fellow Board member that through 136 pages we have not once read, “Let’s get Legette Lenow,” if for no other reason than puns.

 

Btw, acceptable negative responses would be “LeNO.”

 

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8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Dane Brugler published The Beast today. If you have one reason to sign up for the Athletic for a month, this is it:

 

Here are his WR rankings:

 

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Was just reading this! Interesting how low he has Legette at.

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25 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Dane Brugler published The Beast today. If you have one reason to sign up for the Athletic for a month, this is it:

 

Here are his WR rankings:

 

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Some notes that I haven't seen mentioned much elsewhere:

  • MHJ: "As talented as he is, his discipline and dedication to his craft might be the most impressive part of him" - NFL scout. Tendency to coast when he isn't the target of the play, poor effort as a blocker, not really a YAC weapon. Turned down NIL deals at first because he believed they'd be a distraction.
  • Nabers: Body catches more than you'd like but has shown the ability to extend and catch the ball with his hands. Was arrested on Bourbon St. for illegally carrying a weapon. Was ruled ineligible his senior year of high school because his family happened to move to the same school district as his former coach and there was a rule against that; still made the All-American team despite not playing lol. Credits his time growing up as a center fielder for his ability to track the deep ball.
  • Odunze: His weaknesses section is hilariously short. Needs to expand his route tree and only average change of direction skills, but that's basically it. Suffered a broken rib/punctured lung and didn't miss any time.
  • Thomas: Needs to improve his play strength and tends to lose his footing on some of his breaks, but his ability to stutter step and then accelerate is great, uses his basketball background to box people out, and has "minimal delay going from catcher to runner, which is uncommon for a big receiver"
  • McConkey: Similar to Legette, he switched from WR to QB his senior season in high school. Experience as a punt returner, gunner, and on kickoff coverages. Adding weight has been a challenge in the past; scouts believe he probably won't be able to put on any additional weight in the NFL. Doesn't have ideal contact balance, but makes up for it with his creativity after the catch.
  • AD: Played a few games at QB his senior year of high school but otherwise played WR. Always looking for someone to block. Below average play strength; physical DBs will give him trouble. Small hands and doesn't always play strong to the football. Not a YAC weapon and wasn't a high volume target in college.
  • Coleman: Was a star basketball player in high school while also competing in track and playing football. Only considered colleges where he could play both basketball and football. Switched his commitment twice before ultimately landing at Michigan State. Left the Michigan State basketball team at the beginning of his sophomore season to focus exclusively on football. Cousin of CeeDee Lamb. Draws a lot of penalties. Quickly transitions from catcher to runner, quick burst off the LOS and at the top of his route. Physically dominant as a run blocker. Driven to max out his ability and cash in for his family. Not as efficient beating press coverage as you'd expect. While he's improved as a route runner, more polish is required. Can be a bit prone to offensive pass interference. Had some nagging injuries throughout college.

 

Going to bounce around more from here/be shorter as I just can't do this for everyone lol, but let me know if there's any guys in particular you'd like a short blurb about and I can try to get back to you.

 

  • Pearsall: Punt return and gunner experience, dad was a "tough-as-*****, sticky-handed receiver" just like Ricky.
  • Worthy: Committed to Michigan and tried to early-enroll, but academic issues forced him to delay enrollment. He moved to Michigan anyways to get to know his teammates and ended up leaving a month later and reconsidered his options. Joined Steve Sarkisian at Texas due to how he utilized Devonta Smith at Alabama.
  • Corley: first from his high school to play division 1 football
  • Legette: Played running back as a child, moved to WR for high school, and then moved to QB his senior year; comes from a town of 2,500 people. His 1.78 "flying 20" tied Brian Thomas for the fastest at the combine. Experience as a kick returner and gunner, "genuinely enjoys playing on special teams". Missed a few games after a motorcycle accident in 2021.
  • Malik Washington: Led all WRs in forced missed tackles this season. Inexperienced on special teams outside of kick returns. Torn ACL as a junior in high school.
  • Tez Walker: Most of his offers were to play DB. Torn ACL his senior year of high school, and his college team pulled their scholarship as a result. Worked at Bojangle's to pay for his rehab during his one year gap between high school and college. Has been open about mental health challenges he's faced growing up. He had the only 20+ yard catch allowed by CB Nate Wiggins in 2023.
  • Burton: 6 schools in 8 years, a reputation as an undisciplined player, and had "up and down moments" with the coaching staffs at Georgia and Alabama. Played for former Chargers WR Curtis Conway at one of his many high schools and was teammates with Johnny Wilson.
  • Rice: Never lived with Jerry Rice growing up. Joined track team as a junior in high school because college football coaches questioned his speed.
  • McMillan: Family believes he's a better baseball player than football player. Received dual-sport offers from schools including Oklahoma and USC. Nothing crazy, but has suffered several injuries over his college career. Re-aggravated his MCL sprain multiple times this past season, which forced him to miss a lot of time.
  • Javon Baker: Left Alabama after two seasons. Initially committed to Kentucky in the transfer portal, but they pulled their offer so he ended up at UCF instead. Says he learned a lot from DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle at Alabama. More drops than TDs in his college career.
  • Cowing: One of the lowest ranked recruits in UTEP's recruiting class but he led the team in receiving 3 years in a row. Became a father during his freshman year of college. Entered the transfer portal to try to find a small school near Arizona to be closer to his son and was shocked when several big name schools came calling. Had an NIL deal with the Boys and Girls Club, which he says was very influential on him as a child. Feisty blocker despite his small stature. Was banged up throughout his college career but never missed a game. Only FBS player with 85+ receptions each of the last two seasons.
  • Johnny Wilson: Was only the #21 WR in his recruiting class, but he received almost 40 scholarship offers. Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce was one of his main recruiters and got him to ultimately commit to Arizona State. Was one of many players to leave Arizona State amidst NCAA investigations. Didn't receive much attention in the transfer portal but he reached out to FSU head coach Mike Norvell and convinced him to offer a scholarship. Doesn't play as strong as you'd expect, struggles to match DB's physicality. "Hears footsteps" working over the middle of the field. Zero special teams experience. Missed most of 2021 due to a hamstring injury.
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4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Bills are moving up, the question is how far.

 

AD Mitchell vs Brian Thomas. Mitchell is your alpha. End of comparison. If the Bills trade up to the teens or early 20’s, it’s for Mitchell.

 

His big catches in the playoffs probably gives Beane a woody. Mitchell and Roman Wilson are big moment players and will be Bills. This is the way.

Mitchell taking plays off worries me. 
but I definitely won’t be upset if we draft him.

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12 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Was just reading this! Interesting how low he has Legette at.

 

Legette is an interesting prospect because the people that love him really love him, and the ones that don't have him at the end of day two. He and Coleman are the most polarizing WRs for sure.

 

Here is Brugler's write up on Legette:

 

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STRENGTHS: Well-built athlete with speed … galloping, long strides outpace everyone else on the field (his 1.78-second “flying 20” tied Brian Thomas Jr. for the fastest at the combine) … dangerous catch-and-run weapon on bubbles, slants and crossers … explodes out of his release to get vertical and behind coverage (led all Power 5 receivers with five receptions of 50-plus yards in 2023) … can sell deep route before dropping his weight and giving the quarterback a clear window at the sticks … strong hands and can climb the ladder to pull throws down (dropped only 2.1 percent of his targets in 2023) … really competitive and likes to get after it as a blocker … averaged 26.4 yards as a kick returner (29/767/1), including a 100-yard touchdown in 2022 … an impactful gunner on punt coverages in 2023 and genuinely enjoys playing on special teams … established a reputation for his reliability and toughness in the Gamecocks’ program (NFL scout: “The coaches say he became their best practice player. And he never misses a practice.”) … had a career year in 2023, becoming just the second player in school history to surpass 1,200 receiving yards in a season (joining Alshon Jeffery in 2010).

 

WEAKNESSES: Choppy footwork when attempting to gear down and snap 90-degree breaks, leading him to round his routes … has a slight hitch when attempting to work around press and needs to develop his releases … inconsistent results with crowded catch points … had a tough time in the gauntlet at the combine … will occasionally break tackles with his speed/power mix, but he doesn’t have the elusiveness to shake defenders in small areas … will get himself in trouble trying to go east-west with the ball in his hands … missed two games after suffering multiple “cuts and bruises” in a motorcycle accident (September 2021) … only one season of high-level production (never finished better than seventh on the team in receiving before 2023).

 

SUMMARY: A four-year starter at South Carolina, Legette was an inside/outside receiver in offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains’ scheme (64.6 percent wide, 34.0 percent slot in 2023). A quarterback out of necessity as a senior in high school, he was raw when he joined the Gamecocks and didn’t break out until his fifth season (he and Malik Nabers were the only two SEC players to average more than 100 yards receiving per game in 2023). Legette is at his best on runway routes (verticals, posts, crossers) or sweeps and end-arounds that get his long-striding acceleration going. He doesn’t consistently shake tight man coverage, but he will use his size to play strong through contact. Overall, Legette needs to continue developing his route proficiency and tempo, but his film gives off DK Metcalf vibes, and he has the explosive speed and physicality to be a matchup weapon. He should be an immediate contributor on special teams before competing for starting reps outside.

 

GRADE: 3rd Round (No. 76 overall)

 

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I'll post Keon Coleman's write up too because I like him and this write up confirms what I've seen:

 

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STRENGTHS: Physically impressive athlete … outstanding body control, hip flexibility and leaping skills to sky the ball and make plays above the rim … didn’t record first drop of 2023 until the ACC title game (had an outstanding gauntlet drill at the NFL combine) … routinely makes 50/50 grabs, and his highlight reel includes several one-handed catches … maintains his focus to track/finish while wearing defenders like a backpack … consistently draws pass interference calls, especially in the red zone … catch-and-go receiver with the limber frame that allows for half of his body to make the catch while the other half gets a head start working upfield … quick at the line and at the top of his route … improved nuance as a route runner, introducing head bobs or jab steps to get corners leaning at the break point … knows how to use his body to shield defenders on slants … able to physically dominate as a blocker and will take cornerbacks completely out of plays … wasn’t expected to return punts at Florida State, but he filled the need and was productive (joined Peter Warrick as the only FSU players with 100-plus receiving yards and 100-plus punt return yards in the same game) … averaged 12.0 yards per punt return in 2023 (25/300/0) … “loves to work,” according to head coach Mike Norvell (NFL scout: “His drive since he was a kid was to max out his ability and cash in for his family. … That singular focus and talent? Yeah, I’ll bet on that.”) … teammates speak highly of the way he carries himself (Trey Benson: “He has so much energy. … I’ve never seen him down.”) … led team in receiving at two different schools.

 

WEAKNESSES: Not a burner, and his speed is mediocre by NFL standards … can be more efficient beating the jam and stacking corners … routes require additional polish and deception … doesn’t consistently separate on film, leading to a high-trafficked catch points (his 30 contested targets ranked second most in the FBS in 2023) … guilty of extending both hands and pushing off defenders downfield (flagged twice for offensive pass interference in 2023) … played through a partial muscle tear in his hip/groin area throughout the 2022 season at Michigan State (an injury contributed to his decision to give up basketball); missed one game as a junior and parts of several others because of nagging injuries (November 2023).

 

SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Florida State, Coleman lined up inside and outside (motion-heavy) in head coach Mike Norvell’s up-tempo scheme. After putting himself on the NFL radar as a two-sport athlete at Michigan State, he transferred to Tallahassee in 2023 and led the Seminoles in receiving — and the nation in acrobatic “He did what?!” catches. Thanks to his basketball background, Coleman “big brothers” cornerbacks up and down the fi eld using size, strength and athleticism. But what really separates him as a pass catcher is his dominance with the ball in the air. Not only can he overpower defenders at the catch point, but he also makes leaping acrobatic stabs appear routine with his natural body control and extraordinary catch radius. Overall, Coleman must develop more nuance to his route running, but his big-man twitch, physicality and ball-winning adjustment skills allow him to be a difference maker. With continued refinement, he has the talent to be an NFL starter (similar in ways to Courtland Sutton). GRADE: 2nd Round (No. 37 overall)

 

The note about drawing DPIs is interesting because it's not the sort of thing that shows up in normal cut-ups. But it is an underrated trait that becomes probably even more valuable in the NFL.

 

Coleman seems like the type of prospect the Bills would love. High upside physical traits, young, puts his body on the line for his team even on run plays, described as having very good work ethic and high football character.

 

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19 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

  

 

Some notes that I haven't seen mentioned much elsewhere:

  • MHJ: "As talented as he is, his discipline and dedication to his craft might be the most impressive part of him" - NFL scout. Tendency to coast when he isn't the target of the play, poor effort as a blocker, not really a YAC weapon. Turned down NIL deals at first because he believed they'd be a distraction.
  • Nabers: Body catches more than you'd like but has shown the ability to extend and catch the ball with his hands. Was arrested on Bourbon St. for illegally carrying a weapon. Was ruled ineligible his senior year of high school because his family happened to move to the same school district as his former coach and there was a rule against that; still made the All-American team despite not playing lol. Credits his time growing up as a center fielder for his ability to track the deep ball.
  • Odunze: His weaknesses section is hilariously short. Needs to expand his route tree and only average change of direction skills, but that's basically it. Suffered a broken rib/punctured lung and didn't miss any time.
  • Thomas: Needs to improve his play strength and tends to lose his footing on some of his breaks, but his ability to stutter step and then accelerate is great, uses his basketball background to box people out, and has "minimal delay going from catcher to runner, which is uncommon for a big receiver"
  • McConkey: Similar to Legette, he switched from WR to QB his senior season in high school. Experience as a punt returner, gunner, and on kickoff coverages. Adding weight has been a challenge in the past; scouts believe he probably won't be able to put on any additional weight in the NFL. Doesn't have ideal contact balance, but makes up for it with his creativity after the catch.
  • AD: Played a few games at QB his senior year of high school but otherwise played WR. Always looking for someone to block. Below average play strength; physical DBs will give him trouble. Small hands and doesn't always play strong to the football. Not a YAC weapon and wasn't a high volume target in college.
  • Coleman: Was a star basketball player in high school while also competing in track and playing football. Only considered colleges where he could play both basketball and football. Switched his commitment twice before ultimately landing at Michigan State. Left the Michigan State basketball team at the beginning of his sophomore season to focus exclusively on football. Cousin of CeeDee Lamb. Draws a lot of penalties. Quickly transitions from catcher to runner, quick burst off the LOS and at the top of his route. Physically dominant as a run blocker. Driven to max out his ability and cash in for his family. Not as efficient beating press coverage as you'd expect. While he's improved as a route runner, more polish is required. Can be a bit prone to offensive pass interference. Had some nagging injuries throughout college.

 

Going to bounce around more from here/be shorter as I just can't do this for everyone lol, but let me know if there's any guys in particular you'd like a short blurb about and I can try to get back to you.

 

  • Pearsall: Punt return and gunner experience, dad was a "tough-as-*****, sticky-handed receiver" just like Ricky.
  • Worthy: Committed to Michigan and tried to early-enroll, but academic issues forced him to delay enrollment. He moved to Michigan anyways to get to know his teammates and ended up leaving a month later and reconsidered his options. Joined Steve Sarkisian at Texas due to how he utilized Devonta Smith at Alabama.
  • Corley: first from his high school to play division 1 football
  • Legette: Played running back as a child, moved to WR for high school, and then moved to QB his senior year; comes from a town of 2,500 people. His 1.78 "flying 20" tied Brian Thomas for the fastest at the combine. Experience as a kick returner and gunner, "genuinely enjoys playing on special teams". Missed a few games after a motorcycle accident in 2021.
  • Malik Washington: Led all WRs in forced missed tackles this season. Inexperienced on special teams outside of kick returns. Torn ACL as a junior in high school.
  • Tez Walker: Most of his offers were to play DB. Torn ACL his senior year of high school, and his college team pulled their scholarship as a result. Worked at Bojangle's to pay for his rehab during his one year gap between high school and college. Has been open about mental health challenges he's faced growing up. He had the only 20+ yard catch allowed by CB Nate Wiggins in 2023.
  • Burton: 6 schools in 8 years, a reputation as an undisciplined player, and had "up and down moments" with the coaching staffs at Georgia and Alabama. Played for former Chargers WR Curtis Conway at one of his many high schools and was teammates with Johnny Wilson.
  • Rice: Never lived with Jerry Rice growing up. Joined track team as a junior in high school because college football coaches questioned his speed.
  • McMillan: Family believes he's a better baseball player than football player. Received dual-sport offers from schools including Oklahoma and USC. Nothing crazy, but has suffered several injuries over his college career. Re-aggravated his MCL sprain multiple times this past season, which forced him to miss a lot of time.
  • Javon Baker: Left Alabama after two seasons. Initially committed to Kentucky in the transfer portal, but they pulled their offer so he ended up at UCF instead. Says he learned a lot from DeVonta Smith and Jaylen Waddle at Alabama. More drops than TDs in his college career.
  • Cowing: One of the lowest ranked recruits in UTEP's recruiting class but he led the team in receiving 3 years in a row. Became a father during his freshman year of college. Entered the transfer portal to try to find a small school near Arizona to be closer to his son and was shocked when several big name schools came calling. Had an NIL deal with the Boys and Girls Club, which he says was very influential on him as a child. Feisty blocker despite his small stature. Was banged up throughout his college career but never missed a game. Only FBS player with 85+ receptions each of the last two seasons.
  • Johnny Wilson: Was only the #21 WR in his recruiting class, but he received almost 40 scholarship offers. Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce was one of his main recruiters and got him to ultimately commit to Arizona State. Was one of many players to leave Arizona State amidst NCAA investigations. Didn't receive much attention in the transfer portal but he reached out to FSU head coach Mike Norvell and convinced him to offer a scholarship. Doesn't play as strong as you'd expect, struggles to match DB's physicality. "Hears footsteps" working over the middle of the field. Zero special teams experience. Missed most of 2021 due to a hamstring injury.

 

15 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Legette is an interesting prospect because the people that love him really love him, and the ones that don't have him at the end of day two. He and Coleman are the most polarizing WRs for sure.

 

Here is Brugler's write up on Legette:

 

 

 

Would love to see more of Brian Thomas and Ricky Pearsall. They are my crushes. 

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What I think is interesting is that Dane only has 17 WRs in his top 100 (I've got 20). He has 8 with 1st, 1st-2nd or 2nd round grades, he had 7 last year and has 15 with 3rd round grades or better as against 12 last year. He has 39 draftable. Last year he had 38. 

 

I dunno. I just don't feel like these two WR classes were that close together. I respect Dane a lot. He is really good at what he does. But.... I think the gap between this class and the last one was bigger than his grades would indicate. 

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12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I like him too. He can do a lot of what Diggs did. 
 

There are a lot of guys in this draft that I can talk myself into. Keon Coleman is the only guy that I’m having a hard time with. His separation is just abysmal. With the exception of Nico Collins, the guys with the worst separation over the last decade have sucked as pros. I don’t think that the Bills have the luxury of trying to “beat the odds” with the WRs early. 

Go check the draft analysis of Puka Nacua, George Pickens, Drake London. I know Puka and Pickens went later in the draft, but I bet if every NFL team had a do over they would take them higher. What all of those mentioned did well was CATCH THE BALL. What good is a "separator" if they don't catch the ball consistently? Watching Coleman, he leverages his body against opposing DBs and he catches the ball. In every highlight, I don't see many of the DBs pressing him at the line. I see a lot of them clutching and grabbing him. When I watch him, I see a more physical, slightly athletic DeAndre Hopkins. 

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I like Coleman, but I don’t think he’s a great fit with Josh.  Josh with his rocket arm is better suited with the separators.  Coleman looks more suited to excel with a Burrow type precision passer.  Nabers, Thomas, Worthy, Franklin seem more like Josh type WR’s.  

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2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I’m proud of you all as a fellow Board member that through 136 pages we have not once read, “Let’s get Legette Lenow,” if for no other reason than puns.

 

Btw, acceptable negative responses would be “LeNO.”

 

#IWant2WRs

 

Go Bills

 

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I like Coleman, but I don’t think he’s a great fit with Josh.  Josh with his rocket arm is better suited with the separators.

 

I've seen a lot of people say this, I just don't agree. Allen likes finding a matchup he likes pre-snap and going after it. Last year in obvious man coverage situations he was locking in on Diggs first most of the time. If he trusts Coleman to create leverage at the catch point he'll do the same thing with him. And with a prospect like Coleman you don't need super precise throws because he has a wide catch radius and is as good as anyone in the class at high pointing the ball.

 

Allen hasn't ever had a WR with this skill set. Personally I think he would thrive with Coleman. Every gunslinger needs their guy that goes up and gets the ball. The closest Allen had to that was Kelvin Benjamin and, well...

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24 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Go check the draft analysis of Puka Nacua, George Pickens, Drake London. I know Puka and Pickens went later in the draft, but I bet if every NFL team had a do over they would take them higher. What all of those mentioned did well was CATCH THE BALL. What good is a "separator" if they don't catch the ball consistently? Watching Coleman, he leverages his body against opposing DBs and he catches the ball. In every highlight, I don't see many of the DBs pressing him at the line. I see a lot of them clutching and grabbing him. When I watch him, I see a more physical, slightly athletic DeAndre Hopkins. 

 

He isn't even that good of a catcher. He only caught a third of the contested catches that came his way. If you are not gonna separate you need to be better than that in those situations. 

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35 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Go check the draft analysis of Puka Nacua, George Pickens, Drake London. I know Puka and Pickens went later in the draft, but I bet if every NFL team had a do over they would take them higher. What all of those mentioned did well was CATCH THE BALL. What good is a "separator" if they don't catch the ball consistently? Watching Coleman, he leverages his body against opposing DBs and he catches the ball. In every highlight, I don't see many of the DBs pressing him at the line. I see a lot of them clutching and grabbing him. When I watch him, I see a more physical, slightly athletic DeAndre Hopkins. 

Matt Harmon was on WGR like a month ago and went through separation stats for college receivers and how it translated. Of the people that got similar separation to Coleman ONLY Collins was any good. It was guys like Bryan Edwards and some others. Basically 5% of guys like him have succeeded. FWIW, Johnny Wilson is even worse. I’m not trying to beat “math” when there are so many other viable options.
 

I don’t see this as a Josh situation in terms of raw either. I’ll take raw in a guy like Legette that separates. The floor is FAR too low with Coleman for a team that HAS to get production immediately.

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Matt Harmon was on WGR like a month ago and went through separation stats for college receivers and how it translated. Of the people that got similar separation to Coleman ONLY Collins was any good. It was guys like Bryan Edwards and some others.

 

Edwards still stings. Man I liked him. 

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Dane Brugler published The Beast today. If you have one reason to sign up for the Athletic for a month, this is it:

 

Here are his WR rankings:

 

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Can’t believe some of these guys are 6000 inches tall. This ain’t your daddy’s NFL.

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m not as certain on any of these WRs as some of the people here. Positive or negative. 

That’s actually the proper attitude.  No one knows, even with regard to the big 3. Few of the highest paid WRs in the league were first round picks…FWIW, I’m warming to the idea of Keon Coleman, regardless where the Bills take him. The guy is a great athlete and a baller, despite his lack of burning speed. I just think he’s going to be in the league for a long time and will be very productive.

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45 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

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HUD,  I have not been as obsessed with a Bills draft in maybe 25 years.  I'm not kidding.  Very interested in 2018 for the QB draft, but just didn't know where we were going to end up.

 

I can't stop watching videos of WRs.  I know more about some of these prospects than my own child.

 

And to my kid, boo-hoo, get a better 40 time and maybe you get ice cream.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m not as certain on any of these WRs as some of the people here. Positive or negative. 

This is what every fan and even professional talent evaluators need to always keep in mind. You simply don't know. The best you can hope for is a 50/50 shot with a Round 1 graded WR, and that includes MHJ, Odunze and Nabers. Odds say that 1 of those 3 is going to be a dud. I sure can't tell who.

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3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

HUD,  I have not been as obsessed with a Bills draft in maybe 25 years.  I'm not kidding.  Very interested in 2018 for the QB draft, but just didn't know where we were going to end up.

 

I can't stop watching videos of WRs.  I know more about some of these prospects than my own child.

 

And to my kid, boo-hoo, get a better 40 time and maybe you get ice cream.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

An artist’s rendition of the “dad life” goings on over at the Donuts household…

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1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

An artist’s rendition of the “dad life” goings on over at the Donuts household…

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The funny thing is HUDS, in truth and no lie, we get our Christmas tree on the Monday or Tuesday of Thanksgiving week and and keep (in great shape, too) until just after New Years.

 

In Donuts' household we consistently get 40 days plus out of our tree.  

 

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30 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

This is what every fan and even professional talent evaluators need to always keep in mind. You simply don't know. The best you can hope for is a 50/50 shot with a Round 1 graded WR, and that includes MHJ, Odunze and Nabers. Odds say that 1 of those 3 is going to be a dud. I sure can't tell who.

I agree to a degree. It isn’t linear though. They had a draft guy on WGR this morning and he said that these 3 WRs are the 3 highest graded WRs over the last 3 drafts. In other words, they would have been the first one off the board last year or in 2022. I don’t think 1 out of 3 guys with their draft grades bust. They just happen to be in the same draft.Those top 3 guys all grade out favorably to Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Addison, JSN, Flowers, London, Dotson, and Jameson Williams. 

 

Now if you want to say of: Mitchell, Coleman, Worthy, Franklin, McConkey, Legette, etc… 2 or 3 will bust, I’ll buy it. That’s part of the reason that I’m fine with the capital to go all of the way up. By spending the capital you’re all but assuring yourself of production. Now you might not get the best of the 3 but you’ll get a good player. 

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9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I agree to a degree. It isn’t linear though. They had a draft guy on WGR this morning and he said that these 3 WRs are the 3 highest graded WRs over the last 3 drafts. In other words, they would have been the first one off the board last year or in 2022. I don’t think 1 out of 3 guys with their draft grades bust. They just happen to be in the same draft.Those top 3 guys all grade out favorably to Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Addison, JSN, Flowers, London, Dotson, and Jameson Williams. 

 

Now if you want to say of: Mitchell, Coleman, Worthy, Franklin, McConkey, Legette, etc… 2 or 3 will bust, I’ll buy it. That’s part of the reason that I’m fine with the capital to go all of the way up. By spending the capital you’re all but assuring yourself of production. Now you might not get the best of the 3 but you’ll get a good player. 

 

I have:

 

1. Harrison

2. Nabers

=3. Odunze and Olave 

 

But agree it is not crazy to think these are the best 3 over the last 3 drafts combined. 

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23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I agree to a degree. It isn’t linear though. They had a draft guy on WGR this morning and he said that these 3 WRs are the 3 highest graded WRs over the last 3 drafts. In other words, they would have been the first one off the board last year or in 2022. I don’t think 1 out of 3 guys with their draft grades bust. They just happen to be in the same draft.Those top 3 guys all grade out favorably to Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Addison, JSN, Flowers, London, Dotson, and Jameson Williams. 

 

Now if you want to say of: Mitchell, Coleman, Worthy, Franklin, McConkey, Legette, etc… 2 or 3 will bust, I’ll buy it. That’s part of the reason that I’m fine with the capital to go all of the way up. By spending the capital you’re all but assuring yourself of production. Now you might not get the best of the 3 but you’ll get a good player. 

I suppose I should have included in detail that one of them may "bust" due to a random major injury as well. But yes, good point on the overall grades of the top 3 this year!

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 


I love JT Clark out of UTSA as a late round/UDFA guy. Everything you look for but has had some big time injuries so his Medicals have kept him from testing/2023 season. 
 

Might have to go the way of Ivan Pace from last year. 

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6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’m not as certain on any of these WRs as some of the people here. Positive or negative. 

And info is very sketchy/unreliable on the intangibles - attitude/personality/demeanor/intelligence.  I don't want another diva but it is hard to know without more information who those are.  Makes the second round pickups a little more appealing to me - the McConkey/Coleman/Legette/Franklin crew.

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