KOKBILLS Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: People have to remember that Kupp ran a 4.62 and Nacua ran a 4.57 and Anquan Boldin ran 4.71. Guys can win in the the NFL running in the 4'6's especially ones who are near 6'4. 100% true... But that's also why Boldin went 54 overall, Kupp went 69, and Nacua went 177... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 28 minutes ago, JMM said: Thank you, I was just going to post asking where did McConkey play in college. Hmm, could be our pick and prevent him from going to KC..🤔 Daniel Jerimiah said "dont let this kid go to KC" today I believe. Last year he said "Dont let Kincaid go to Buffalo". Humm..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just for ***** and giggles 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 25 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I really can't get over Mitchell's combine. I don't know what to make of it. A guy that explosive with his size and route running ability should have been dominating college competition and instead he's near the bottom of the entire draft class in a lot of the production metrics. I just revisited his film for a third time a couple days ago and now I'm wondering if I have to do it again lol. I just don't get it. I think because he missed a ton of games. But he also had tons of clutch TD's in big games, including the national championship winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Has anyone dismissing McConky as an X receiver considered that, aside from being a great WR prospect in general, his future could be as a replacement for a fading Diggs? As Cosell pointed out in the video posted in this thread, Diggs is no longer a #1 WR. And we're aware of certain behind-the-scenes possibilities in the locker room that may affect his future here - along with his cap numbers. The Bills are not simply faced with replacing Gabe Davis. They have to up the game of the entire WR room. For this reason, I would not rule out a McConkey selected at #28 if Beane thinks he is the best WR. The only surefire big-bodied studs in this rich WR class are MHj and Odenze - and out of our reach. With the uncertainty around Diggs' performance and contract, we need to add talent, not a height /weight profile. For example, Orange asked a great question up-thread. Why isn't AD Mitchels tape more impressive? Take the best WR, period. Come back on Day 3 and select the trait guys to fill out the roster. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 17 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: That's still less than 3/4 of the time on the Outside in the College level. There are guys who are thought of as Outside guys that have to switch to the Slot at the Pro Level. At 5'11 with a 36" vertical, 185 pounds soaking wet, and less than 75% usage on the Outside at the College level - it's *at best* a projection to say you can stick him on the boundary 90% or more in the NFL and that it's going to work out best for him. He was 75% out wide two seasons ago and 79% this past season. He lined up out wide more often than Keon Coleman, Xavier Legette, Malik Nabers, and several other guys that nobody is questioning as a wideout. I do think taking his physical traits into account, it's not as clear that he can play outside as some of these other guys, but to pretend 75+% out wide isn't a high number is simply not true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 2 minutes ago, alg said: Has anyone dismissing McConky as an X receiver considered that, aside from being a great WR prospect in general, his future could be as a replacement for a fading Diggs? As Cosell pointed out in the video posted in this thread, Diggs is no longer a #1 WR. And we're aware of certain behind-the-scenes possibilities in the locker room that may affect his future here - along with his cap numbers. The Bills are not simply faced with replacing Gabe Davis. They have to up the game of the entire WR room. For this reason, I would not rule out a McConkey selected at #28 if Beane thinks he is the best WR. The only surefire big-bodied studs in this rich WR class are MHj and Odenze - and out of our reach. With the uncertainty around Diggs' performance and contract, we need to add talent, not a height /weight profile. For example, Orange asked a great question up-thread. Why isn't AD Mitchels tape more impressive? Take the best WR, period. Come back on Day 3 and select the trait guys to fill out the roster. People crapped all over me when I touted Kincaid and mock drafted him to the Bills before the draft last year saying no chance in hell the Bills take Kincaid with Knox on the roster etc etc. If McConkey is the best WR on the board at 28 which I think is a very strong possibility I have zero hesitation to mock him to the Bills at 28. Edited March 2 by gonzo1105 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 12 minutes ago, Magox said: Just for ***** and giggles But I have read on here that is too small for an outside WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Motorin' said: I think because he missed a ton of games. But he also had tons of clutch TD's in big games, including the national championship winner. The only WRs in this year's class to run more routes this season were Rome Odunze and Ja'Lynn Polk. It's certainly not a lack of playing time. He just wasn't very productive. This doesn't just apply to him by the way; the same goes for Coleman, but Coleman isn't as nuanced a route runner or apparently as explosive an athlete as Mitchell is. Edited March 2 by DCOrange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Brian Thomas Jr 4.34 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Why did Mitchell transfer to Texas from Georgia? Thomas looked really smooth running the 40. I wish we could draft that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, jahnyc said: Why did Mitchell transfer to Texas from Georgia? Thomas looked really smooth running the 40. I wish we could draft that guy. we’ll have to trade up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 25 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: 100% true... But that's also why Boldin went 54 overall, Kupp went 69, and Nacua went 177... There are also a whole lot more that ran in the 4.6s and never did anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Brian Thomas Jr unofficially hit 4.34 in the 40 just now 👀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: we’ll have to trade up now We always probably were going to have to, honestly, at least a few picks. Fun to see him sitting there at 28 in mocks - but I never saw that as much of a possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: The only WRs in this year's class to run more routes this season were Rome Odunze and Ja'Lynn Polk. It's certainly not a lack of playing time. He just wasn't very productive. This doesn't just apply to him by the way; the same goes for Coleman, but Coleman isn't as nuanced a route runner or apparently as explosive an athlete as Mitchell is. I thought you were referring to his total production... I also wonder if the amount of routes run is off for him, because as a team Texas threw fewer passes than you have him down for routes run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 5 minutes ago, alg said: Has anyone dismissing McConky as an X receiver considered that, aside from being a great WR prospect in general, his future could be as a replacement for a fading Diggs? As Cosell pointed out in the video posted in this thread, Diggs is no longer a #1 WR. And we're aware of certain behind-the-scenes possibilities in the locker room that may affect his future here - along with his cap numbers. The Bills are not simply faced with replacing Gabe Davis. They have to up the game of the entire WR room. For this reason, I would not rule out a McConkey selected at #28 if Beane thinks he is the best WR. The only surefire big-bodied studs in this rich WR class are MHj and Odenze - and out of our reach. With the uncertainty around Diggs' performance and contract, we need to add talent, not a height /weight profile. For example, Orange asked a great question up-thread. Why isn't AD Mitchels tape more impressive? Take the best WR, period. Come back on Day 3 and select the trait guys to fill out the roster. Ahh, Beane likes traits. I think he wants a big X. Mitchell, Legette, Thomas, and Coleman check that box. To repeat what I wrote earlier, Greg Cosell is one of the most astute football minds. I think he's especially good on WR. He watched the same tape, and came away very impressed with Mitchell. Legette is going to be good, imo. I'm not one of those who would be super angry if they took McConkey, because he's right at the top of my list for folks I like in this draft. I don't think it would be the right move, but that's because I think we need to prioritize a different kind of receiver. All the same, in truth, if McConkey ends up on the Bills, I'm buying his jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Worthy 4.25 wow 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, Motorin' said: I thought you were referring to his total production... I also wonder if the amount of routes run is off for him, because as a team Texas threw fewer passes than you have him down for routes run? That's because some of the routes resulted in sacks or scrambles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Ok now I want Worthy Thomas Jr Worthy Coleman My top 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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