2024 WR Draft Class

[Matt_In_NH]

18 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

 

Well that guy just got himself a bunch of loot

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

If this is true, which it could be a lie to get Thomas Jr to fall a little bit, I do not believe Thomas still makes it close to 28 

 

If you look at the teams between when the top 3 go off the board and where we're picking - there's not a lot of teams you can see logically going WR.

 

I'm not saying Thomas is going to be pushed to 28 specifically. I am saying that if he does go from 4th WR off the board to 5th - that he comes within striking distance of a smaller Trade Up now.

[Warriorspikes51]

Marvin Jr wants to play for Josh Allen and not Patrick Mahomes

[The Jokeman]

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

If you look at the teams between when the top 3 go off the board and where we're picking - there's not a lot of teams you can see logically going WR.

 

I'm not saying Thomas is going to be pushed to 28 specifically. I am saying that if he does go from 4th WR off the board to 5th - that he comes within striking distance of a smaller Trade Up now.

At what cost? Is Thomas vs an Adori Mitchell and say a DT Jordan Jefferson? As to me the two worth more than the one as to move up to get Thomas likely cost us our 4th.  

[jkeerie]

1 hour ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

And Rashee Rice last year 

Rice was taken in the second round and there was no guarantee the Bills would have drafted a WR in the second round after grabbing Kincaid in the 1st.

[The Jokeman]

Just now, jkeerie said:

Rice was taken in the second round and there was no guarantee the Bills would have drafted a WR in the second round after grabbing Kincaid in the 1st.

Rices stats another example of product of no other great WRs around him. Yes, he's a talent but doubt he produces similar numbers if asked to be a number 2 here vs being a pseudo 1 in KC.

[Warriorspikes51]

 

 

 

 

 

 

100% fit’s Beane talking about wanting a guy who can take a 5 yard pass and make it a 55 yard TD

 

 

 

Edited March 3 by Warriorspikes51

[BBFL]

13 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

If you look at the teams between when the top 3 go off the board and where we're picking - there's not a lot of teams you can see logically going WR.

 

I'm not saying Thomas is going to be pushed to 28 specifically. I am saying that if he does go from 4th WR off the board to 5th - that he comes within striking distance of a smaller Trade Up now.

 

There’s at least 6 I can think of before us: 

 

Giants, Tennessee, Chicago, Jags, Bucs and Cardinals. 
 

With the way these guys performed today it’s a strong possibility that many are gone come 28. 
 

Throw in the Bengals who could choose to add another guy for the future giving the Higgins/Boyd situations. Broncos are a possibility too as are Dallas and Houston. 

[Maynard]

7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

100% fit’s Beane talking about wanting a guy who can take a 5 yard pass and make it a 55 yard TD

 

 

 

[KDIGGZ]

Bills need to get this Worthy guy. I don't care if he's only a decoy. Run as fast as you can down the field and Josh launch it 75 yards to him the first play of every game just to keep the defense honest! Plus he returns punts. Seems like the ideal #2 guy and he was expected to be there end of round 1 but now who knows 

[BillsFanForever19]

19 minutes ago, BBFL said:

 

There’s at least 6 I can think of before us: 

 

Giants, Tennessee, Chicago, Jags, Bucs and Cardinals. 
 

With the way these guys performed today it’s a strong possibility that many are gone come 28. 
 

Throw in the Bengals who could choose to add another guy for the future giving the Higgins/Boyd situations. Broncos are a possibility too as are Dallas and Houston. 

 

Cardinals and Giants will take two of the top 3 guys. The Bucs will either retain Evans which will remove them from the conversation as the cost will be so great, they'll need to use their 1st on another position. If they don't retain him, he'll go to another team which will remove them from the conversation.

 

Cincinnati just Franchised Higgins. There's no way they're going to pay him, pay Chase, AND Draft a WR in Round 1 with the holes they have to fill. Houston has Nico Collins and Tank Dell, as well as finally being able to get Metchie back and ready to roll. They aren't going with another young WR.

 

Here's a solid post @GunnerBill made on this situation:

 

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So here is where I am.... once you get out of the top 10 I am not sure how many receiver landing spots there are. 

 

Vikings at 11? Obviously not. Jefferson and Addison.

 

Broncos at 12? Put the house on a QB.

 

Vegas at 13? Too many other needs and have Devonte.

 

Saints at 14? Too many other needs.

 

Colts at 15? Possible. But Pittman on the tag lessens the chance.

 

Seattle at 16? No chance. DK, Lockett and JSN.

 

Jacksonville at 17? Yes. First receiver spot outside the top 10 for me.

 

Cincy at 18? Not with Higgins tagged, no.

 

LA at 19? Nope. Kupp and Nacua.

 

Steelers at 20? Nope. Pickens and Johnson.

 

Dolphins at 21? Nope. Waddle and Hill.

 

Eagles at 22? Very outside chance if they are trading AJ Brown. Otherwise, no.

 

Texans at 23? Possible. Think they more likely go vet route though and use this pick on defense.

 

Cowboys at 24? Yes. They could go OL but I think they are in the WR market. 

 

Pack at 25? Nope. They have a nice young bunch.

 

Tampa at 26? Possible if Evans walks. No chance if he doesn't.

 

Cardinals at 27? Almost certainly taken a WR in the top 10 so no.

 

As great as the WR's looked, there's teams who's needs are far greater at QB, OT, DE, DT, and CB and a large number of extremely talented players at those positions as well. There's guys like Mike Evans who teams are going to sign in FA.

 

Many mock Drafts had us as the spot for the 4th WR off the board. Mostly all had us as the spot for at least the 5th WR.

 

Maybe we have to move up a little bit for the 5th. But I don't think it's a scenario that's impossible. Worst case scenario? We have to "settle" for an Adonai Mitchell or Xavier Legette.

 

Long story short, if Xavier Worthy has pushed his way up to WR4 - it's a really good thing for us.

[BBFL]

19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Cardinals and Giants will take two of the top 3 guys. The Bucs will either retain Evans which will remove them from the conversation as the cost will be so great, they'll need to use their 1st on another position. If they don't retain him, he'll go to another team which will remove them from the conversation.

 

Cincinnati just Franchised Higgins. There's no way they're going to pay him, pay Chase, AND Draft a WR in Round 1 with the holes they have to fill. Houston has Nico Collins and Tank Dell, as well as finally being able to get Metchie back and ready to roll. They aren't going with another young WR.

 

Here's a solid post @GunnerBill made on this situation:

 

 

As great as the WR's looked, there's teams who's needs are far greater at QB, OT, DE, DT, and CB and a large number of extremely talented players at those positions as well. There's guys like Mike Evans who teams are going to sign in FA.

 

Many mock Drafts had us as the spot for the 4th WR off the board. Mostly all had us as the spot for at least the 5th WR.

 

Maybe we have to move up a little bit for the 5th. But I don't think it's a scenario that's impossible. Worst case scenario? We have to "settle" for an Adonai Mitchell or Xavier Legette.

 

Long story short, if Xavier Worthy has pushed his way up to WR4 - it's a really good thing for us.

Pretty much on par with where I was… Curious why you feel that because I don’t see how there is “no way” when Higgins is tagged. There is no way they can pay Higgins again on a decent contract/tag him AND pay Chase. That is precisely why you draft a guy who’s got the chance to fill the void next year. We obviously see that part very differently.

 

Edited March 3 by BBFL

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

At what cost? Is Thomas vs an Adori Mitchell and say a DT Jordan Jefferson? As to me the two worth more than the one as to move up to get Thomas likely cost us our 4th.  

I think it’ll cost us our 3rd or even 2nd. I think he’s top 20

[NewEra]

54 minutes ago, BBFL said:

 

There’s at least 6 I can think of before us: 

 

Giants, Tennessee, Chicago, Jags, Bucs and Cardinals. 
 

With the way these guys performed today it’s a strong possibility that many are gone come 28. 
 

Throw in the Bengals who could choose to add another guy for the future giving the Higgins/Boyd situations. Broncos are a possibility too as are Dallas and Houston. 

This.  
 

Premium position.  I think our only hope of a guy like Thomas slipping to us is that this draft is loaded with 1st rd OT prospects.  The more OTs that go, the better.  Along with your 6 team list, I’d consider Dallas and Houston as strong suitors for WRs.  

[BBFL]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

This.  
 

Premium position.  I think our only hope of a guy like Thomas slipping to us is that this draft is loaded with 1st rd OT prospects.  The more OTs that go, the better.  Along with your 6 team list, I’d consider Dallas and Houston as strong suitors for WRs.  

Agreed. Those last two you mentioned are my thought of some of the first 6 decide to go a different route. Either way it’s a strong possibility that 6 are gone. Mocks aren’t the be-all end-all but there was 5 or 6 in the 32 picks in most pre-combine. 
 

Let’s hope that wall isn’t hit before 28 🤞

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, BBFL said:

Agreed. Those last two you mentioned are my thought of some of the first 6 decide to go a different route. Either way it’s a strong possibility that 6 are gone. Mocks aren’t the be-all end-all but there was 5 or 6 in the 32 picks in most pre-combine. 
 

Let’s hope that wall isn’t hit before 28 🤞

If they start falling off the board the way some of you fellas are doom predicting, Beane is going to move up. He won't wait at #28. And frankly, I think he needs to watch his back, because those thieving Chiefs are known perpetrators of no good draft jumping mischief.

[Donuts and Doritos]

 

 

Adoni Mitchell breakdown.

 

[BillsFanForever19]

17 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Pretty much on par with where I was… Curious why you feel that because I don’t see how there is “no way” when Higgins is tagged. There is no way they can pay Higgins again on a decent contract/tag him AND pay Chase. That is precisely why you draft a guy who’s got the chance to fill the void next year. We obviously see that part very differently.

 

 

Yeah, you easily can. Chase when extended will stay on his Rookie number for two more years. Big money will come later in the contract with bonus money up front. Cinci's cap situation is the following for the next 3 seasons:

 

2024 - 52m under the cap (including the 21.8 tag on Higgins already on the books, that will get lowered)

 

2025 - 155.5m under the cap

 

2026 - 354m under the cap

 

You pay Higgins big up front and Chase bigger after his Rookie deal. They're in great shape financially and having two #1 WR's to pair with Burrow is as monumental to their success in previous years than anything else on the team. 

 

They have the money to keep them both and still build a team around them and that's what they're doing. That's why they Franchised Higgins.

Edited March 3 by BillsFanForever19

[Einstein's Dog]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

If they start falling off the board the way some of you fellas are doom predicting, Beane is going to move up. He won't wait at #28. And frankly, I think he needs to watch his back, because those thieving Chiefs are known perpetrators of no good draft jumping mischief.

I think we should expect a small move up.  They've done it the last couple of years now.  And if going WR you have to think after 4 go and the draft gets into the 20s the FO will get nervous - and rightfully so.  And as you mention the possibility of KC moving up (or Carolina) needs to be considered.