Bockeye Posted December 26, 2023 Author Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: Glad we will have Jones back. That is great news and even though Hyde has lost a step we need him in there over Rapp. Rapp is a tackling machine but awful in coverage. Shorter is a body catcher and won’t help Josh at all but maybe special teams he could be valuable. Hopefully Elam is healthy now and can be used in case of emergency because he did show some promise at the end of last year This is not a knock on your comment, but with the way our WR’s drop the ball, I’ll take any type of catch possible. Would love to see Shorter get a shot with how terrible our FA andditions are. He’s 6’4” 229 lbs and ran an 4.55 40. He also showed terrific hands at Penn State and Florida, dropping only six of 163 targets. Takes him a bit to get to speed, but would be tough to cover. To your point though - those are some great attributes for ST’s as well. Will be interesting to see what the Bills do with him. Edited December 26, 2023 by Bockeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 DQ is who we need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 hours ago, FireChans said: Brown has been pretty good this year. I think OT is still on the agenda, but it may be to replace Dawkins rather than Brown. I disagree on both counts. Dawkins is playing very well. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I disagree on both counts. Dawkins is playing very well. More from a cap hit standpoint, not because Dawkins is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: My hope is Ty Johnson is back ASAP. I like his fit with the OL blocking. It would be great to see him back with the Bills next season. Not sure if Justin Shorter is being considered right now for the 53. I am leaning for him to be WR6, but someone has to go. It seems he is either activated or they shut him down for the year to save his rookie contract status. If he is activated, I guess they would have to waive a tackle and hope he slides to the PS. It's getting to the time of the year that PS "elevations" could come into play if needed. Does anyone have a list of current PS players and how many times they have been elevated? Really tough runner too with a nice burst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Bockeye said: This is not a knock on your comment, but with the way our WR’s drop the ball, I’ll take any type of catch possible. Would love to see Shorter get a shot with how terrible our FA andditions are. He’s 6’4” 229 lbs and ran an 4.55 40. He also showed terrific hands at Penn State and Florida, dropping only six of 163 targets. Takes him a bit to get to speed, but would be tough to cover. To your point though - those are some great attributes for ST’s as well. Will be interesting to see what the Bills do with him. Hope I’m wrong on him but besides being a physical specimen of a human he doesn’t impress me as a WR. He didn’t do much with Anthony Richardson as his QB and doesn’t pass the eye test when it comes to being an NFL WR. But who knows maybe he got in the jugs machine hard while on IR and learned how to play the position from Diggs and how to snag a ball with his hands from Kincaid 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, FireChans said: More from a cap hit standpoint, not because Dawkins is bad. Good point. Is this going to be an issue with Mitch Morse, too? I get the impression that Morse only stays if he takes a pay cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 58 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Good point. Is this going to be an issue with Mitch Morse, too? I get the impression that Morse only stays if he takes a pay cut. Yes. Morse and Dawkins are both cuttable and only on the books for 2024. We may be looking for both new starters in 2 years. Morse is also always a retirement risk with his concussion history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I’d trade em all for Milano in the playoffs. But alas…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yes. Morse and Dawkins are both cuttable and only on the books for 2024. We may be looking for both new starters in 2 years. Morse is also always a retirement risk with his concussion history. Dawkins I think will get an extension to spread the cap number. Hes been playing extremely well. Morse I do believe 2024 will be his last year 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Morse has been our worst lineman the last few games. That could be viewed as a good or bad thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 At the beginning of the year, Buffalo's defense was ferocious. Injuries took them down a notch but some key additions by Beane kept things from turning into a complete tire fire. If DaQuan comes back 100% and our DEs heal up, this team will be well positioned for the playoffs and to finally win the big one. That defensive line is the key. Everyone is so focused on the offense, but the defense, I believe is what will push this team over the hump. Again, DaQuan is the one player that can transform this defense. His ability to eat up double teams is so underrated and god help them if they don't double him. Curious what will happen this week, because the roster is currently only at 52. Hoping to see him gets some live action even if limited reps, so he has something to build on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Rockinon said: At the beginning of the year, Buffalo's defense was ferocious. Injuries took them down a notch but some key additions by Beane kept things from turning into a complete tire fire. If DaQuan comes back 100% and our DEs heal up, this team will be well positioned for the playoffs and to finally win the big one. That defensive line is the key. Everyone is so focused on the offense, but the defense, I believe is what will push this team over the hump. Again, DaQuan is the one player that can transform this defense. His ability to eat up double teams is so underrated and god help them if they don't double him. Curious what will happen this week, because the roster is currently only at 52. Hoping to see him gets some live action even if limited reps, so he has something to build on. You missed that Elam was activated and is #53. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 18 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: I disagree on both counts. Dawkins is playing very well. Brown has improved, but his strength seems to be run blocking. 9 minutes ago, Rockinon said: At the beginning of the year, Buffalo's defense was ferocious. Injuries took them down a notch but some key additions by Beane kept things from turning into a complete tire fire. If DaQuan comes back 100% and our DEs heal up, this team will be well positioned for the playoffs and to finally win the big one. That defensive line is the key. Everyone is so focused on the offense, but the defense, I believe is what will push this team over the hump. Again, DaQuan is the one player that can transform this defense. His ability to eat up double teams is so underrated and god help them if they don't double him. Curious what will happen this week, because the roster is currently only at 52. Hoping to see him gets some live action even if limited reps, so he has something to build on. Agree with the first part, but the roster is 53 since today was the end of Elam's 21-day-window to return. So to activate Daquan, the Bills will have to waive someone or put someone on IR. My totally personal based-on-nothing guess is that the wiser heads really want to IR Hyde (and likely wanted to before the Dallas game) but Hyde is fighting it tooth and nail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Limeaid said: You missed that Elam was activated and is #53. Yea, just noticed that. Looks like another week for DQ. Maybe they still activate him.... 4 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Brown has improved, but his strength seems to be run blocking. Agree with the first part, but the roster is 53 since today was the end of Elam's 21-day-window to return. So to activate Daquan, the Bills will have to waive someone or put someone on IR. My totally personal based-on-nothing guess is that the wiser heads really want to IR Hyde (and likely wanted to before the Dallas game) but Hyde is fighting it tooth and nail. Poona could be the odd man out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 12:30 PM, FireChans said: Elam ain’t coming back. They stashed him on IR and replaced him with Norman. How did that prediction work out for you? If they really figured they were going to stash him, they wouldn't have bothered opening his 21 day window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: How did that prediction work out for you? If they really figured they were going to stash him, they wouldn't have bothered opening his 21 day window. I was wrong. Happens so rarely, I don’t mind admitting it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 2:50 PM, Bockeye said: This is not a knock on your comment, but with the way our WR’s drop the ball, I’ll take any type of catch possible. Would love to see Shorter get a shot with how terrible our FA andditions are. He’s 6’4” 229 lbs and ran an 4.55 40. He also showed terrific hands at Penn State and Florida, dropping only six of 163 targets. Takes him a bit to get to speed, but would be tough to cover. To your point though - those are some great attributes for ST’s as well. Will be interesting to see what the Bills do with him. He also plays very good special teams I look at shorter as a look at the future not necessarily this year 1 hour ago, FireChans said: I was wrong. Happens so rarely, I don’t mind admitting it. Never understood why people post like this now you’re gonna have everybody hanging on every prediction you have and pointing it out every time you’re wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 12:30 PM, FireChans said: Elam ain’t coming back. They stashed him on IR and replaced him with Norman. This aged well 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: He also plays very good special teams I look at shorter as a look at the future not necessarily this year Never understood why people post like this now you’re gonna have everybody hanging on every prediction you have and pointing it out every time you’re wrong I don’t care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 20 hours ago, Beck Water said: My totally personal based-on-nothing guess is that the wiser heads really want to IR Hyde (and likely wanted to before the Dallas game) but Hyde is fighting it tooth and nail. I've had the same thought. But then I have also been drunk for about 7 days straight so don't take too much notice of me.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I've had the same thought. But then I have also been drunk for about 7 days straight so don't take too much notice of me.... Ahh typical British Christmas celebration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 11:06 AM, Dan Darragh said: I can't believe I'm going to write something this stupid, but... I thought Shorter looked really good in preseason. So did Nathan Peterman 😎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: So did Nathan Peterman 😎 Yes Nathan P5t5rman has fooled a lot of front offices and coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes Nathan P5t5rman has fooled a lot of front offices and coaches. Peterdude is just Catnip for Coaches, I swear it. Something about him must just be irresistable He's still in the league, you know - with the Bears Spotrac gives his career earnings as $7.4M That's right, $7.4M for a guy who has started 5 NFL games (1-4 record) and thrown 4 TD to 13 INT He's kind of like the Buddy Holly (or Elvis Costello) of NFL QB - for you youngsters, that'd be the ordinary-looking guy in the thick birth-control glasses who made every guy in HS think "hey, if that dude could be a rock star then why couldn't I?" Edited December 28, 2023 by Beck Water 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Peterdude is just Catnip for Coaches, I swear it. Something about him must just be irresistable He's still in the league, you know - with the Bears Spotrac gives his career earnings as $7.4M That's right, $7.4M for a guy who has started 5 NFL games (1-4 record) and thrown 4 TD to 13 INT He's kind of like the Buddy Holly (or Elvis Costello) of NFL QB - for you youngsters, that'd be the ordinary-looking guy in the thick birth-control glasses who made every guy think "hey, if that dude could be a rock star then why couldn't I?" From all accounts, Peterman is a whiteboard wizard who seduces coaches with knowledge of the game. It's just too bad for him that his arm makes Tua look like Dan Marino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 7:37 PM, NeverOutNick said: Hope I’m wrong on him but besides being a physical specimen of a human he doesn’t impress me as a WR. He didn’t do much with Anthony Richardson as his QB and doesn’t pass the eye test when it comes to being an NFL WR. But who knows maybe he got in the jugs machine hard while on IR and learned how to play the position from Diggs and how to snag a ball with his hands from Kincaid And block like Davis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I've had the same thought. But then I have also been drunk for about 7 days straight so don't take too much notice of me.... Ah, traditional Brit Christmas I see.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Peterdude is just Catnip for Coaches, I swear it. Something about him must just be irresistable He's still in the league, you know - with the Bears Spotrac gives his career earnings as $7.4M That's right, $7.4M for a guy who has started 5 NFL games (1-4 record) and thrown 4 TD to 13 INT He's kind of like the Buddy Holly (or Elvis Costello) of NFL QB - for you youngsters, that'd be the ordinary-looking guy in the thick birth-control glasses who made every guy in HS think "hey, if that dude could be a rock star then why couldn't I?" I had a classmate like that. Knew as much every professor he had a class with but when he got to a test he froze up. He met with dean, dean was convinced he was too good to lose and gave instructions for professors to give him oral tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He met with dean, dean was convinced he was too good to lose and gave instructions for professors to give him oral tests. Professors giving students oral tests is a bit tricky in liberal colleges. There's too many variations on what is considered a test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: So did Nathan Peterman 😎 and Jeff Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Looks like Jones, Epenesa and Elam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: Professors giving students oral tests is a bit tricky in liberal colleges. There's too many variations on what is considered a test. There's actually a long history of oral examinations in liberal colleges, dating back to the very first universities in Medieval Europe. It wasn't until the late 19th-19th century that University examinations began to shift from oral to written, and some oral examinations were retained at Oxford (and I think Cambridge) into the 20th century. They're still part of post-graduate education, including in the US, in the form of oral preliminary and thesis defense exams for PhD (US) and "viva voce" exams (Europe). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 DQ is a full participant in practice again today, and OL Germain Ifedi was waived today. Could it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 3 hours ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: Professors giving students oral tests is a bit tricky in liberal colleges. There's too many variations on what is considered a test. I'm surprised Florida will even have colleges/universities in 20 years with the way things are going... might as well call them institutions... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Low Positive said: From all accounts, Peterman is a whiteboard wizard who seduces coaches with knowledge of the game. It's just too bad for him that his arm makes Tua look like Dan Marino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I am looking forward to Tuanigamanuolepola and AJ Epenesa meeting again, Samoan vs Samoan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/27/2023 at 9:29 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: This aged well Elam was always coming back, some just didn’t have the mind to wrap around this…, 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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