JohninMinn. Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 More to life and football then a feel good story. Glad he’s ok but if he can’t play why waste a roster spot? 6 3 7 4 1 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Do people not understand what depth is? 20 10 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Hes a backup safety. You realize there are backups at every position right? They are on the roster but hopefully they never see the field. Just now, Warcodered said: Do people not understand what depth is? Cut everyone but the starting 22! 8 17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellofellowbillsfans Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 i swear we have the angriest fan base known to man. i think people just sit around all day and pick different random things to be angry at 16 1 18 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 They couldn’t cut him this season even if they wanted to. After what happened last year it’s almost impossible to not look like a bunch of jerks if you cut him. But yes, he’s pretty much not that good. Probably worthy of a backup before the injury, but post injury he’s been hesitant and not very good at all. My opinion, he will get a shot to make this team next season but will not make it on the roster by the end of pre season. Maybe he makes it to the practice squad but that’s about it. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I mean... you have to have inactive players every week. Whoever we replace him with would also be — wait for it — inactive. 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Hes a backup safety. You realize there are backups at every position right? They are on the roster but hopefully they never see the field. Cut everyone but the starting 22! A bunch of sissies. Cut it to 11, and go full iron man! 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellofellowbillsfans Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, MPL said: I mean... you have to have inactive players every week. Whoever we replace him with would also be — wait for it — inactive. shh don't tell him, we don't want him to know that secret! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I honestly thought this thread was going to be whether or not Damar should dress in Cincinnati. Shocked it was about his roster spot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, hellofellowbillsfans said: i swear we have the angriest fan base known to man. i think people just sit around all day and pick different random things to be angry at America is an angry place, its what’s in vogue nowadays, 😂 🍸🚬 4 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I think the OP is trying to say that the only reason he is still on the team is due to what happened to him last year .. Not the biggest issue we have going on at the moment in my opinion… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: More to life and football then a feel good story. Glad he’s ok but if he can’t play why waste a roster spot? I was wondering the same thing. Bills are in a no win situation on this so I think listing him as inactive is probably for the best. Another question if he was fit to play is it right to return him against the Bengals of all teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 He is the 4th best safety on the roster. They only have 3 up on a gameday. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He is the 4th best safety on the roster. They only have 3 up on a gameday. Maybe they should not have signed Rapp hurting his and some fans feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, hellofellowbillsfans said: i swear we have the angriest fan base known to man. i think people just sit around all day and pick different random things to be angry at 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: More to life and football then a feel good story. Glad he’s ok but if he can’t play why waste a roster spot? If he weren't on the roster, he would be replaced by a 4th safety that would also be inactive. 12 minutes ago, hellofellowbillsfans said: i swear we have the angriest fan base known to man. i think people just sit around all day and pick different random things to be angry at Anger is fine, but not when it's 85 IQ braying that contaminates every thread and comprises 95% of all new threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Yeah he’s not a starter in the league and he’s not starting in Buffalo, if they feel he’s sufficient for his back up role then who am I to disagree. I definitely don’t want to see him starting or playing for that matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 He isn't good and he doesn't play. What's the problem? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, stlbills13 said: He isn't good and he doesn't play. What's the problem? Apparently that he isn’t the second coming of Ronnie Lott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I hate the you can only dress 48 rule. Let them all dress. I know the rule is to try and create a level playing field so no one has an advantage by having an extra player or two due to less injuries but allow them to bring up a PS player. Give everyone an opportunity to play. I think less injuries would occur if Damar could take a few reps to let others rest. Especially in garbage time if the game is a blowout. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 things we never miss out on opportunity. Critiquing our Bills and calling each other stupid for it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: More to life and football then a feel good story. Glad he’s ok but if he can’t play why waste a roster spot? I have said, for a while now, that he was not a very good player, and that he probably should have been cut after training camp… Given his sensitive situation, though, I understand why the team might have felt obligated to keep him on the roster…Can you imagine the PR nightmare for cutting a guy that literally died for your team? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Of all the things to be critical about you chose this? Stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Damar is in fact not very good. But if you're going to carry a guy on the 53 just because of optics having him be your 4th safety isn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: More to life and football then a feel good story. Glad he’s ok but if he can’t play why waste a roster spot? This post doubles as both silly and an insight to the posters football acumen. Respectfully, I feel like if this was a genuine question, people would have been much more likely to provide a genuine answer if it wasnt tinged as a slight at the front office. Edited October 27, 2023 by gobills1212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: More to life and football then a feel good story. Glad he’s ok but if he can’t play why waste a roster spot? What the ***** did I just read? There is no elephant. Damar Hamlin is a backup safety. He was a backup safety last season, and started/developed into decent after Micah Hyde was injured. This season, he's behind Jordan Poyer and Taylor Rapp (who did start on a Superbowl team...) on the depth chart, so he's 3rd up instead of 2nd up. Cam Lewis is active on game days, not because he's really a better safety than Hamlin, but because he 's the primary backup for nickel corner as well as a backup at CB and safety - for depth, versatility gives a guy an edge for a game-day hat. If Hamlin couldn't play, he wouldn't have a roster spot and they would have kept one of the safeties they cut - Jared Madden, or Dean Marlowe, or Zayne Anderson OR signed someone else. Edited October 27, 2023 by Beck Water 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Hes a backup safety. You realize there are backups at every position right? They are on the roster but hopefully they never see the field. Cut everyone but the starting 22! Besides a healthy rotation of D linemen, a McD staple, I mostly agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 This isn't rocket science. The Bills have five safeties on their roster. Hyde and Poyer start. Rapp plays in three-safety sets and is next man up likely at both safety positions. Cam Lewis, the fourth safety, is a standout special teams player and provides positional versatility that Hamlin doesn't offer. Hamlin is a pure free safety. He doesn't play nickel corner like Cam Lewis. He's not as good a special teamer as Lewis. Ergo, he will be inactive most of the year unless injuries hit at safety. This happens across the league. Not every player gets to be active every week. Why aren't you asking if Alec Anderson or Germain Ifehdi deserve to be on the team? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I have said, for a while now, that he was not a very good player, and that he probably should have been cut after training camp… Given his sensitive situation, though, I understand why the team might have felt obligated to keep him on the roster…Can you imagine the PR nightmare for cutting a guy that literally died for your team? Wait - what? He died for our team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 OP assumes the Bills kept Damar Hamlin for optics not football ability alone. That he didn't earn his spot I think that is an insulting take to Damar AND the Bills to be honest. IT"S A BUSINESS. and the Bills are not in the business of keeping inferior talent. **failure gong*** 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Are you calling Damar Hamlin an elephant? Edited October 27, 2023 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, Mango said: A bunch of sissies. Cut it to 11, and go full iron man! So I'm guessing Diggs is the punter but who kicks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, hellofellowbillsfans said: i swear we have the angriest fan base known to man. i think people just sit around all day and pick different random things to be angry at Can everyone get off their soapbox about piSsed off fans and posts?! To me it was a legitimate question about a roster spot. Yes, it's a touchy subject but c'mon. Every anti Bills post (to some), doesn't have to be over scrutinized and abusive to the poster does it? 30 minutes ago, muppy said: OP assumes the Bills kept Damar Hamlin for optics not football ability alone. That he didn't earn his spot I think that is an insulting take to Damar AND the Bills to be honest. IT"S A BUSINESS. and the Bills are not in the business of keeping inferior talent. **failure gong*** I think that is a bad take on the OP 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellofellowbillsfans Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Can everyone get off their soapbox about piSsed off fans and posts?! To me it was a legitimate question about a roster spot. Yes, it's a touchy subject but c'mon. Every anti Bills post (to some), doesn't have to be over scrutinized and abusive to the poster does it? I think that is a bad take on the OP LOL that my response is "abusive" to the OP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 So, let's fire Alec Anderson into the sun as well. Hoser hasn't been active all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbossman2 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Ever heard of "doing the right thing"? To be a vested NFL player, you need to have 3 credited seasons. So far he has 2. Keeping him on the roster gets to be a fully vested NFL player which has certain bennies, among the biggest is health insurance. Think this isn't important? If you are a player who has 2 offers that are basically the same and one team is a class act and takes care of it players and the other team kicks players to the curb to free up a roster spot for....reasons. Which team are you going to sign with? Players talk. They know the good organizations from the meh organizations from the bad organizations. Players want to get paid yes but they also have a need to not feel like a piece of meat who will get thrown out like yesterday's garbage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Can everyone get off their soapbox about piSsed off fans and posts?! To me it was a legitimate question about a roster spot. Yes, it's a touchy subject but c'mon. Every anti Bills post (to some), doesn't have to be over scrutinized and abusive to the poster does it? I think that is a bad take on the OP So, it's ok for posters to over scrutinize the Bills...but not ok to over scrutinize posters opinions on the over scrutinization? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I like Damar, I just don't think he can cover worth a lick. But I would not be in favor of releasing him. He's a good man, it would be bad PR, bad mojo, bad everything. Allow him to be a backup, get vested in whatever he needs to for NFL insurance reasons, and maybe he can suit up again sometime this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Speaking of your feel good story about Damar, a fish fan who is an extreme bettor and I had a conversation at work the other day as to potential “Comeback Player of the Year” award which he was going to bet on. He mentioned Damar is odds on favorite to win the award and believes he should have no shot at it if he doesn’t play. I begged to differ. Apparently that’s Bills fan bias. Whilst I don’t think he will play, unless we lose both safeties this year as Rapp will likely fill in, he still just came back from literally dying on a football field 10 months ago. That, at least to me, is one incredible comeback in a physical sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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