GoBills! Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 This offense when calling plays right is still capable of scoring 27+ every week. Maybe the 35-10 type wins are over but 38-31 wins can still be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Success said: I see a lot of these sentiments today.   It's how it feels today - but it's not reality. This will STILL be a top team and be a contender for the title even if the worst is true. Milano is a great player - but our D is deep, and strong.   The offense is going to have to win games in the playoffs. They looked really bad today. Complete opposite of last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Success said: I see a lot of these sentiments today.   It's how it feels today - but it's not reality. This will STILL be a top team and be a contender for the title even if the worst is true. Milano is a great player - but our D is deep, and strong.   It’s not just Milano. It’s Jones (if he had a torn pec), and White.  There just aren’t replacements for those guys.  Teams are going to run all over us, and dominate time of possession the rest of the year. Jones was our run D. Of course we have a chance as long as we have Allen, but I think it is significantly diminished now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, mrags said: Ok. But deep enough to overcome starting CB. Starting MLB (all pro), and starting DT? Cuz that’s what we’re looking at.  and don’t want to burst anyone’s bubble, but Von played but was sat out for what looked like much of the 2nd half. With all the injuries and people going down, being short everywhere, guys taking oxygen, etc. and he was nowhere to be found. So one would ask, is it because that was the plan all along? Did he feel some pain, or have hesitations? Idk. Let’s hope it’s nothing more than the general plan. Sure seems like an insurmountable task. You just can't lose those kind of quality starters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: It’s apparent the trainers are not doing something correctly.  No its not.  Did you think we didn’t do the broken leg/torn knee ligament stretch or something?  These have been impact or non-contact injuries.  This isn’t on the training staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: To know we really don’t know how good this team is when it is fully operational is the worst thing. Even still they can beat anyone in the league when you have 17 all things are possible. 17 didn't carry the team today. Just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: This board is like France in 1940 Who you calling a bunch of women with hairy armpits? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I just can’t deal with going to KC again in the playoffs. My biggest concern left on this team is Dorsey. With a healthy Oline and Allen Diggs, they can can still reach the top unless Dorsey does not step it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: The loss today was on the scoreboard was minimal, the Super Bowl ramifications, not so much. Once again, the Bills had the best team in the NFL and will have to wait yet another year to get healthy to win it all.  they will make the playoffs,  and maybe even win the division, but they don’t have the manpower to win the whole thing.  Who knows what this team looks like next year but it just sucks to know that we will never see the full capabilities of a team that I believe was the best in the NFL this year.  Seems like the Bills are the only top team that suffers devastating injuries to star players every single year. It's becoming ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Adapt and overcome. No other way. Josh Allen is good enough to take over and win games when needed.  D is not going from top 3 in NFL to like 27th.  Probably will be middle of the pack now. That's still good enough. 17 didn't do enough today. He didn't carry the team, he didn't look special, he didn't look elite, he didn't make any special plays, etc ..  He was pretty average today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, NewEra said: Nfl gods taking another dump on our faces.  Winning Super Bowls involves so much luck.  It’s never been on our side.  No and they (he) never will. God hates this team. We're cursed. Winning regular season games becomes empty without a viable team to go all the way. After so many events you can't say "bad luck" anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roundybout Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: 17 didn't do enough today. He didn't carry the team, he didn't look special, he didn't look elite, he didn't make any special plays, etc ..  He was pretty average today. 360 yards and 3tds not good enough for you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: 17 didn't do enough today. He didn't carry the team, he didn't look special, he didn't look elite, he didn't make any special plays, etc ..  He was pretty average today.  LMAO...he looked better than Tua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: 360 yards and 3tds not good enough for you? Apparently not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: No and they (he) never will. God hates this team. We're cursed. Winning regular season games becomes empty without a viable team to go all the way. After so many events you can't say "bad luck" anymore. I don’t say bad luck.  Just hoping for some good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 We are five games into the season and we already have lost two of our top defensive players (White and Milano) for the year (if not longer), and maybe a third (Jones). Â The defense will be negatively impacted for the rest of the season and the offense will need to be prolific to overcome these injuries. Â The offense wasn't today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: No its not.  Did you think we didn’t do the broken leg/torn knee ligament stretch or something?  These have been impact or non-contact injuries.  This isn’t on the training staff. Apparently the training staff needs to give every player bionic implants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: 17 didn't carry the team today. Just saying... Checks notes as sees he had 357 yards and 3 TDs. He can’t catch the ball for Davis and Knox and considering he was the Bills leading rusher with 23 yards. That is the definition of making a team one dimensional as Cook, Murray, and Williams didn’t get it done. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Jests fans will feel no pity for us over injuries, nor will anyone else... and that's fine. It's only week five and as others have posted, every team will have to deal with this at some point. I know we won't just replace White or Milano, but it is what it is. We still have our star QB and lots of talent on this roster. In a few weeks, we will be back to threads talking about #1 seeds and the MVP race again.  I don't like to go to other teams' fan forums, but was curious what Jagoff fans were posting.  They are most excited but lamenting that their defense, while getting it done today, isn't "elite"... and one poster wanted to point out that Ridley made clutch catches today, calling it "redemption". Another guy asked if everyone was back on board after saying that their team sucked a couple of weeks ago.  Sound familiar? This will be us again after a win against the Giants next week. It's an up and down season and this week, we're in the valley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: Oh, there is zero shot we get the bye...division is seriously in question with the mounting injuries on D. Chiefs will get the bye and an easy divisional match-up...then just have to play one good game and they're back in the Super Bowl. The new Patriots...same as the old Patriots. The Chiefs play in a weak division and win like 90 percent of the close games .. Seem  to get some help from the refs when needed.. don’t see this changing anytime soon  The Josh Allen Bills might never get the No 1 seed … injuries or not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: 360 yards and 3tds not good enough for you? It wasn't good enough. The offense struggled the whole game including Allen. Out of sync, no real momentum, and not dynamic or explosive.  Most of those stats were near the end of the game where it was too little two late.  Those two long plays to Diggs should have been TDs if Allen was more accurate. Diggs was wide wide wide open. Elite QBs have to convert those passes into TDs.  I don't know how you could think Allen played well after watching this game? Don't get me wrong, the whole offense sucked and it's not just on Allen.  However, people here want to talk about Allen carrying the team. He certainly didn't do that today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Look at the games we lose. Almost all of them we are outrun and lose the LOS battle. Take away Chris Jones and Nick Bolton from the KC defense and tell me how good their run D is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:  LMAO...he looked better than Tua That's not saying much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: I’d start there and work my way up. These injuries should be prevented. The trainers didn’t strengthen Milano’s bone enough to prevent a 300 lbs rolling on his leg and breaking it?  What exercise or stretch prevents 300 lbs coming on you?  You are really reaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, newcam2012 said: It wasn't good enough. The offense struggled the whole game including Allen. Out of sync, no real momentum, and not dynamic or explosive.  Most of those stats were near the end of the game where it was too little two late.  Those two long plays to Diggs should have been TDs if Allen was more accurate. Diggs was wide wide wide open. Elite QBs have to convert those passes into TDs.  I don't know how you could think Allen played well after watching this game? Don't get me wrong, the whole offense sucked and it's not just on Allen.  However, people here want to talk about Allen carrying the team. He certainly didn't do that today. He was the leading rusher with 23 yards yes he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Apparently the training staff needs to give every player bionic implants Apparently.  It’s unacceptable for this training staff not to have Milano’s bone strong enough to take on 300 lbs.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: 2 years in a row is just a coincidence. Dude he got his knee bent back over during a play, no amount of training is going to prevent that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sandhill Mike said: Jests fans will feel no pity for us over injuries, nor will anyone else... and that's fine. It's only week five and as others have posted, every team will have to deal with this at some point. I know we won't just replace White or Milano, but it is what it is. We still have our star QB and lots of talent on this roster. In a few weeks, we will be back to threads talking about #1 seeds and the MVP race again.  I don't like to go to other teams' fan forums, but was curious what Jagoff fans were posting.  They are most excited but lamenting that their defense, while getting it done today, isn't "elite"... and one poster wanted to point out that Ridley made clutch catches today, calling it "redemption". Another guy asked if everyone was back on board after saying that their team sucked a couple of weeks ago.  Sound familiar? This will be us again after a win against the Giants next week. It's an up and down season and this week, we're in the valley.  Our own fans are underestimating how good this team is, imo.  Williams did alright today. He's not Milano (of course), but McD seems to know how to coach up LB's and CB's and get the most out of those positions.   It was kind of amazing how well the D did today considering how many guys were out. And we're getting most of the injured guys back; who knows - maybe all of 'em. Really hoping that it's just a fracture for Milano, but if not, like another poster said - it's not like we're going to drop from a top 5 D to bottom of the pack or anything.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo619 said: referring to all the injuries as a whole. I agree, broken bones can’t be prevented. This isn’t the Milano thread. Refer to OP. If injuries can easily be prevented, then there would be no injuries.   But you think torn ligaments and muscle can be prevented.  That means it should never happen but yet it does to every team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: referring to all the injuries as a whole. I agree, broken bones can’t be prevented. This isn’t the Milano thread. Refer to OP. Seemed like OP was referring to losing Milano and Jones today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) What killed the Bills defense today more than injuries was way too many easy 3rd and long pass conversions.  The secondary looks to me the biggest concern. Our starting Safeties are looking their age. With the exception of Bedford who was out today the outside corners are rarely in position to make a play on the ball. Beane needs to go to work Monday morning and investigate options. And do we think after two major injuries Tre is gong to come back anywhere near 100% Edited October 8, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 It’s week 5 chill things change on a dime week to week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 These injuries have been devastating but Josh has never been hurt. So no matter how bad it feels it could be worse. He is the only deal breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Where do you get this team was the best in the NFL?  They lost to a bad Jets team. Beat bad teams in the Raiders and Commanders. Only good win was the Dolphins.  San Fran and Philly are light years better than Buffalo. KC just wins every year. They are better. Cinci when Burrow gets healthy will be better.  Bills are a very good team. They got much worse after today's injuries.  Looks like another wasted opportunity.   How did the eagles do vs the commanders?  Please point me to their "good win."  You're not even a good troll. At least be funny or something once in a while. You're just a dumb***. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I can't take Bills seriously as superbowl contenders if they can't back themselves to get 2 yards when it's needed. All the big plays are majestic as hell, but if you can't go and get two yards when you need it, you're not elite. You're asking for too many things to go your way too often.  Eagles last year were the masters of this. 2 yards out they couldn't miss. It ground opponents down. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 The league shafted us out of a Super Bowl berth today. The body clock experiment disadvantage was huge.  Could’ve led to some of those injuries, the turf, whatever.  September AFC champions, it was fun for a while there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Process said: How did the eagles do vs the commanders?  Please point me to their "good win."  You're not even a good troll. At least be funny or something once in a while. You're just a dumb***. Really dude? Philly went to the SB last year. They haven't lost a game and aren't hitting their stride yet.  They have a dynamic offense and coaching staff. One of the best olines in the league with a dynamic WR combo.  What are you smoking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Now you’re reaching. Of course it can be prevented and still happen. Then why are you blaming the trainers? Edited October 8, 2023 by Royale with Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimee75 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Process said: How did the eagles do vs the commanders? Â Please point me to their "good win." Â You're not even a good troll. At least be funny or something once in a while. You're just a dumb***. Finally, someone says it. It's been pretty obvious since day 1. Just wonder who this person is really a fan of. I am thinking Patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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