Skyline Chili Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 If so, please merge. Rodgers was out of the game, Wilson no threat, and they seemed to run effectively. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It's been my biggest fear coming into the season. Although right now, maybe teams grinding it out and keeping the ball out of Allen's hands isn't a wholly bad thing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Undersized MLB for starters and if the RB breaks through the LOS and gets to the outside our safeties are too slow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Does this really need to be a new thread? I'm sure we can pull out the threads from the last 10 years or so and just continue on.... It's just awful, awful, awful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) The broken offense devoid of identity is a much bigger problem, but yeah, we can't stop the run, and that is a problem too. If only we had spend more money and assets on the DL. 🤣 Edited September 12, 2023 by Nextmanup 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Being able to stop the run in spots is important. As great of a rushing attack as the Jets have, it's not in my top 10 of worries after tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skyline Chili said: If so, please merge. Rodgers was out of the game, Wilson no threat, and they seemed to run effectively. Why? Inexperience at MLB, aging safeties who take bad angles at times, maybe bad gap integrity. It's been an issue and is likely not going to get better anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeLongBillsFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 White was suppose continuance on the huge run - he had an awful game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Lost said: Undersized MLB for starters and if the RB breaks through the LOS and gets to the outside our safeties are too slow. Cannot wait for Christian Kirksey. Needs to be on roster next game. The LBS are bad those replacing Edmunds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Skyline Chili said: If so, please merge. Rodgers was out of the game, Wilson no threat, and they seemed to run effectively. Why? Breece Hall, he is back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 They run hall more and I think we lose by a lot more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Benford made a hell of a play to save a TD and make the tackle, ultimately leading to a FG. Garret Wilson even got caught celebrating early and grabbed Benfords jersey late. Could have been called a hold if we were wearing Green. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Being able to stop the run in spots is important. As great of a rushing attack as the Jets have, it's not in my top 10 of worries after tonight. At one point Hall was 2 rushes for 109 yards, so I think it should be a major concern for your team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It is frustrating when you know it’s coming and the team still looks like it’s the biggest surprise and can’t tackle either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: At one point Hall was 2 rushes for 109 yards, so I think it should be a major concern for your team. Yeah after he broke 1 run for 83 yards, was run down, and got..... 3 points. More concerned with our headcase under center. Breece Hall is a great young player, but he ain't the difference between winning it all and not. He's a good fantasy guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Yeah after he broke 1 run for 83 yards, was run down, and got..... 3 points. More concerned with our headcase under center. Breece Hall is a great young player, but he ain't the difference between winning it all and not. He's a good fantasy guy. Ok, I give you that, but it was his second rush of the game, he gassed out and didn't score. The Jets should have scored a TD, but the fact that he was able to break that run off tells you a lot about your defense. I'm not talking *****, just stating facts. If he didn't break that run off we wouldn't even have scored 3 points. So yes, the run defense Is an issue foe your defense 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: Ok, I give you that, but it was his second rush of the game, he gassed out and didn't score. The Jets should have scored a TD, but the fact that he was able to break that run off tells you a lot about your defense. I'm not talking *****, just stating facts. If he didn't break that run off we wouldn't even have scored 3 points. So yes, the run defense Is an issue foe your defense Is our run defense great? No. Is a great run defense necessary to win a Superbowl, particularly through a gauntlet of great QB's in the AFC? Also no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I feel like the Bill's have been ran on mostly my entire life. And this year could be the worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Is our run defense great? No. Is a great run defense necessary to win a Superbowl, particularly through a gauntlet of great QB's in the AFC? Also no. A great run defense isn't needed to win a SB? I would figure a team facing Zach Wilson would be able to stop the run considering that dude can't pass worth *****. I would be stacking the line against him. So yes, a great run defense is necessary to win a SB. It forces the other team to throw more and make more mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: A great run defense isn't needed to win a SB? I would figure a team facing Zach Wilson would be able to stop the run considering that dude can't pass worth *****. I would be stacking the line against him. So yes, a great run defense is necessary to win a SB. It forces the other team to throw more and make more mistakes. No it's not. Chiefs were 15th in Y/A allowed rushing last year. Passing and stopping the pass rules the NFL. This is why your team traded a bunch of picks for Rodgers. And it's why Dalvin Cook was picked up for pennies. This is obvious stuff. Edited September 12, 2023 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Is our run defense great? No. Is a great run defense necessary to win a Superbowl, particularly through a gauntlet of great QB's in the AFC? Also no. We can agree to disagree. But I think if a good to great defense that allows many rushing yards just exposes the defense to big passing plays, cause eventually the defense will be focused on the run and play action would slice them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) I don't understand why teams don't run every time against us. It been a weakness for years and our secondary used to be able to make plays. Now that our secondary is old & slow i get wanting to throw it more but jeez your guaranteed 5 yards per carry Edited September 12, 2023 by uticaclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Bills got gashed for 172 yards on 28 carries I believe. They had some good stops, but also gave up a lot of big runs. I’m actually amazed the Jets didn’t run way more often. Had they, we probably wouldn’t have even made it to OT. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Kirksey might be starting next week if not at least by week three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Billznut said: Bills got gashed for 172 yards on 28 carries I believe. They had some good stops, but also gave up a lot of big runs. I’m actually amazed the Jets didn’t run way more often. Had they, we probably wouldn’t have even made it to OT. Rex Ryan would point out it happened on mostly 3 runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I thought the run defense was fine. Take away that one long Hall run and we have no ***** at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beast said: I thought the run defense was fine. Take away that one long Hall run and we have no ***** at all. Other than that, how was the play, Mrs Lincoln ? Our run DEF has the very bad habit of giving up huge runs that cost us close games. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Other than that, how was the play, Mrs Lincoln ? Our run DEF has the very bad habit of giving up huge runs that cost us close games. And yet this wasn’t one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 The run defense is not why we lost tonight. Even after that big run by Hall, the Bills held the Jets to a field goal. The defense did all they could to win tonight, unlike the offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: And yet this wasn’t one of them. Huh.... Giving up an 83 yard run that resulted in a FG didn't cost us a game that went to OT ? Obviously there were many other costly mistakes but everything else being equal without that 83 yard run we win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Yeah after he broke 1 run for 83 yards, was run down, and got..... 3 points. More concerned with our headcase under center. Breece Hall is a great young player, but he ain't the difference between winning it all and not. He's a good fantasy guy. lol youre outta your tree. swap cook for him and play a pro style offense and you'll fix a lot of headaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 What run D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 hours ago, 1onemangang7 said: lol youre outta your tree. swap cook for him and play a pro style offense and you'll fix a lot of headaches. Swap Josh for Zach Wilson and we win last night lol. some of y’all are still living in the past. RB’s have never mattered less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Swap Josh for Zach Wilson and we win last night lol. some of y’all are still living in the past. RB’s have never mattered less. Lol. You're as dumb as a stump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: Lol. You're as dumb as a stump. Okay. We’ll revisit the Jets record at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Minus the one blown 83 yard run we gave up 89 yards on 27 rushes 3.29 ypc I didn’t think our run d was terrible minus that big run. Lost a couple outside contains but I expected our run D to be worse than it was. I really thought Josh and Dorsey were the only problems last night. Looked like Spencer Brown was getting pushed back all night but not sure if that was the case or if Josh was taking off prematurely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Same thing has been happening since McDermott arrived. We’re a defense that relies on everyone doing their 1/11. McDermott preaches it for a reason. Poyer and Hyde don’t do their role well in the run the game. When a RB gets through the front the safeties need to be that last line of defense but they usually take poor angles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: Okay. We’ll revisit the Jets record at the end of the year. One team can run one can't. Revisit the Bengals game. You Wana dump the qb. Football has never changed . Running and defense wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 If Tre White doesn't miss the tackle on the Breece Hall big run, then we aren't talking about the run defense at all today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: One team can run one can't. Revisit the Bengals game. You Wana dump the qb. Football has never changed . Running and defense wins Lmao. There is living in the past then there’s this. Who is the President? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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