ehfeuh57 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, Dr. K said: How do you judge these wide receivers when they are as erratic as Shavers and Shakir, making some great catches and then dropping easy ones? Tommy Doyle sure has bad luck. I hope his knee is not destroyed again. You just evaluate based on "most upside" and ability to "make plays". The answer is Shakir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Only 59 targets 36 catches , 570 yards, 15.8 ypc, 3 TD plus has an all pro as a returner He was allegedly wanted by a few teams and came here for less $.. He's definitely going to have an impact not today though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I liked a few of Isabella's routes in the slot later in the game. I think he has potential as a slot receiver but it's a tough roster to crack. I really want to see Gouraige at RT, and I hope Bernard gets healthy fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Arkady Renko said: Can’t see them cutting Harty with that contract. Fair. Perhaps that’s what saves him. That and the injury to Hines out of necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: That’s some hall of good commentary there Hall of Fair maybe? 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Time for this? Incidentally that composition is titled "Entrance of the Gladiators." I know... hard to believe. 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Gouraige not looking bad He's a brave young man. 2 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Jeff Nixon is all over the place now 2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Marv 'Ateman? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marv_Bateman 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Can this guy push Jordan Phillips off the roster? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, Chaos said: not today though. Was hard for the receivers who played with Kyle Allen to have an impact. He was absolute garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Was hard for the receivers who played with Kyle Allen to have an impact. He was absolute garbage. Hard to blame Kyle Allen for ineffective punt returning. While also saying Shorter showed nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 How did Richardson look for Indy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chaos said: Hard to blame Kyle Allen for ineffective punt returning. While also saying Shorter showed nothing. I didn't. I said it was hard for the receivers who played with that garbage Quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Beck Water said: That's....alarming Seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Dome. Dome. Dome. No. No. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 5 hours ago, wppete said: No one standing out so far apart from James Cook. You don't think anyone on the O-Line stood out? 5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Is it just me, or does Murray glide like FredEx? He's a lot taller than I thought. Almost looks like a wide receiver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Do we keep 7 WR’s? Diggs Davis Sherfield Harty Shakir Shorter Shavers / Isabella / Ateman / Patmon Why do we have to keep Harty? Related to finances? 3 hours ago, Let's Go Buffalo said: A decent way to start things. Can't wait to watch the re-run.....I think tomorrow morning on NFL Network. I'll wait until the 2nd half when Barkley is at QB😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Beast said: The Bills appear to have a lot of talent at WR. Ehhhh back end talent? Maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, mannc said: How did Richardson look for Indy? IMO not good. Boneheaded INT early on while under duress. Some off target throws. He threw a few good check down balls and one very nice 20 yard strike. I think it’ll be a long year for him relying on the ground. 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Shavers seems to only be helping his case to make the team. I saw him getting snaps on ST but couldn’t tell you if what he did was any good. Don’t really care if Shorter was a late round draft pick. Keep the guy who makes more plays. This. This team has to be done with unreliable potential. WR 4-6 can’t drop balls when open. If they’re stashing these guys because of raw athleticism or measurables, do it on the PS. We are in a position where rostered players need to be able to contribute if called upon. Hanging onto Shorter or Shakir because they could eventually be a decent WR3? Pass. Give me the best guy now, as the next year or two we are likely going to be investing heavily in pass catchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Cameron Cline looking more like Tony Cline.... At least Tony caught a touchdown in the playoffs. 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Likin' me some KeeSean!!! Throw him the Damn Ball! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: IMO not good. Boneheaded INT early on while under duress. Some off target throws. He threw a few good check down balls and one very nice 20 yard strike. I think it’ll be a long year for him relying on the ground. I thought he looked like a guy with a strong arm that made a bad play early and kept playing. He threw nice dropped TD as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: IMO not good. Boneheaded INT early on while under duress. Some off target throws. He threw a few good check down balls and one very nice 20 yard strike. I think it’ll be a long year for him relying on the ground. This. This team has to be done with unreliable potential. WR 4-6 can’t drop balls when open. If they’re stashing these guys because of raw athleticism or measurables, do it on the PS. We are in a position where rostered players need to be able to contribute if called upon. Hanging onto Shorter or Shakir because they could eventually be a decent WR3? Pass. Give me the best guy now, as the next year or two we are likely going to be investing heavily in pass catchers Shavers dropped two of the five passes that were thrown to him. One, I’ll admit was the lousy Allen pass that got intercepted, but the other was right to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why do we have to keep Harty? Related to finances? I'll wait until the 2nd half when Barkley is at QB😎 It’s not unmovable money but it’d be a surprise to take the hit. He’s also some of the last elite speed on the offense with Hines hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I thought he looked like a guy with a strong arm that made a bad play early and kept playing. He threw nice dropped TD as well. Strong arm for sure. I’m just not going to give him kudos for continuing to try to make plays. That’s just expected at this level. As always, time will tell! I don’t think he’s surrounded with the talent to help him get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Kinda a ho-hum game. if Kyle Allen continues to struggle, Barkley may take his job, he looked pretty good today, albeit against mostly 3rd and 4th stringers. Still, a 154 rating with only 1 incompletion and 2 TD passes is good no matter who it's against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeckMonster Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: He's a rookie and he's going to make mistakes. But at 6'4 230lbs running a 4.5, the measurables are there Shorter’s been “looks like Tarzan plays like Jane” since coming into college as a 5 star, disappointing, transferring, etc. guys just not a good football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Throw him the Damn Ball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, zow2 said: Barkley has always been solid at those touch, drop in the bucket passes. They just have to be able to give him that extra half second in the pocket. When the opponents scheme to pressure him that’s when he can get into trouble. But i’d trust him over Kyle Allen. I don’t get what anyone has ever seen in KA? Maybe he’d be OK as a backup for a team with few expectations like the Texans but the Bills are still in the “window”. They need a backup that can manage his way to some wins if necessary. It’s crucial In 2019, Kyle Allen played well more often than badly for the Panthers. Started 12 games, 5-7 overall - team won 5 out of the first 6 games he started with a lousy defense. He had some really good games, and also like 3 skunks, really bad stinkers. Overall threw too many picks, but that's not uncommon in the 1st year a QB starts. Rivera thought well enough to trade for him and he started a handful of games and looked OK. Then he had a bad injury - dislocated and broken ankle after being leg-whipped - which put him on IR for the rest of the season. He frankly hasn't looked like the same guy in the games he's started, since. I don't know if the ankle still isn't right, or if throwing while rehabbing screwed up his motion, or if being injured like that screwed with his head for the game. Point is, what people saw in Kyle Allen was some real flashes in 2019 along with some sub-par play. He didn't look as good in Washington, but the whole team was bad so who knows. But the last 2 years, not the same. I frankly don't trust either Barkley OR Kyle Allen to mind the store and at least break even. Edited August 13, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: Kinda a ho-hum game. if Kyle Allen continues to struggle, Barkley may take his job, he looked pretty good today, albeit against mostly 3rd and 4th stringers. Still, a 154 rating with only 1 incompletion and 2 TD passes is good no matter who it's against. and I believe the incompletion was a drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 11 hours ago, mannc said: How did Richardson look for Indy? Like a lost rookie who doesn’t pass well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 5 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: and I believe the incompletion was a drop. I think he hit Shakir right in the hands on a 3rd and 5 where he was wide open and easily had the first and he dropped it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I wish we had a different philosophy at QB2 would prefer a "tyrod type" guy who can run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) I was wondering why he looked open at this end of this play. Now I know why. (not sure if the video is loading here or not but Kincaid flattens the LB). Edited August 13, 2023 by The Wiz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 19 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I just edited my post. I forgot I was behind in the game. Lol. I meant that (last?) Barkley TD drive with the TD pass to Patmon at the end. Allen came out and did that celebration with Barkley and it looked like he possibly had a call sheet in his hand. I also saw a radio on his waist line but I rewound and didn’t see him wearing a headset so I’m thinking maybe not. so I guess the answer was ‘yes’ after all… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 22 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Dorian Williams long hair and # in the 40s looks a bit like Tremaine from the sideline view except DW knows how to hit the right hole and stuff the RB behind the LOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 18 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why do we have to keep Harty? Related to finances? Essentially. Multi-year deal and $5M guaranteed. He’s a rather underwhelming replacement for McKenzie, but the Hines injury nearly guarantees his spot as a returner no matter the cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, Airseven said: Essentially. Multi-year deal and $5M guaranteed. He’s a rather underwhelming replacement for McKenzie, but the Hines injury nearly guarantees his spot as a returner no matter the cap hit. based upon what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: based upon what ? His career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, Airseven said: His career. and McKenzie was so indispensable he was allowed to walk as a FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Airseven Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said: and McKenzie was so indispensable he was allowed to walk as a FA Ok. But the offense needed an upgrade. Also, McKenzie was released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Airseven said: Ok. But the offense needed an upgrade. Also, McKenzie was released. no disagreement on the need for an upgrade I was implying "allowed to walk" as released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Bills had a light practice today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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