RoyBatty is alive Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, ngbills said: Diggs has issue with things. McD and Beane are rewarded. Could be related could be not. We knows maybe Diggs went as far as saying the team needs a change in leadership and this is the message no it does not. Did Diggs actually say we need a change in leadership, strange how i missed that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: Easy, obvious decision. The Bills have a good thing going. Let's not mess it up. Agreed, three straight seasons of Allen advancing us past the wild-card round (twice against two of the worst teams in the playoffs) and even a divisional round win as a bonus. What more could anyone want as a Bills fan. 😁 Edited June 23, 2023 by PBF81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: The quotes were literally quoting you, the people who say that. Otherwise I would not have put it in quotes. And you just reiterated the same quote, but this time in agreement. Are you a tool or a clown? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 The only part I winced at is "Proud, Christian, determined man." Like his religious beliefs have anything to do with anything. If he were Buddhist, would it have been mentioned? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Man I really wanted to return to the coaching turnstile we had for close to 20 years. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 45 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep, agree. And probably, sad to say, Kim's health too. Not sure Terry is for ripping up the stability he has with the Bills unless he really has to with all the other factors. Just as an organization, I suspect that Kim's health issues have had a much broader effect on the team than has been discussed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, stevestojan said: So turning a franchise of lovable losers into true SB contenders for three years straight and counting is worth more than the opinions of fans on TBD? Blasphemy. They turned the franchise around and deserve credit for that. But they haven’t been “true SB contenders.” Based on their various degrees of playoff implosion, there’s still a brick wall separating legit SB contention. The question is whether the current direction of the roster, cap situation, and defense-oriented outlook will get them any closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Jones said: Once again here we have proof that NFL owners may be super rich, but most of them are as dumb as a rock. This move was NOT needed, and really is mind boggling. There's absolutely no good reason to do this. Reminds me of the big contract given to Fitzpatrick years ago, mid season, after the Bills got off to a good start (5-1, I think). What happened for the rest of the year though? LOL Comparing a players contract to a coaches contract is the mind boggling part. That's not "team" money. That's Terry's money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: And you just reiterated the same quote, but this time in agreement. Are you a tool or a clown? I have no idea what you are talking about man. I just said Pegula would not extend both Beane or McDermott if the thought even existed in their mind that they were on the hotseat this year as so many of YOU claim they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Airseven said: They turned the franchise around and deserve credit for that. But they haven’t been “true SB contenders.” Based on their various degrees of playoff implosion, there’s still a brick wall separating legit SB contention. The question is whether the current direction of the roster, cap situation, and defense-oriented outlook will get them any closer. Really, that havent been true super Bowl contenders? Sure about that? Non-sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: lmao the random rationalization because it cant be they are happy with McDermott and Beane's progress of putting us in the position to finally win it all. Its gotta be x y z instead. I don't think they should be fired. Just odd they are extended with 3 years left 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, ngbills said: This is going to be an unpopular take. But the timing is interesting. Could it be a message from ownership to the players, especially the black players. The GM and coach are my guys, you are a player aka the staff and need to know your place. Diggs speaking up and challenging the coach and GM stirred the pot. So Pegula needs to show that he stands with them. Who knows maybe some of the character guys talk bothers players. It can be viewed as a certain way to some of the black players. It was interesting in the comments around this extension, specifically calling out being a good Christian, etc. "... especially the black players???" Where is your head at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Two wild-card games and a Divisional game? With Allen? I certainly hope that fan expectations going forward are higher than that. Just sayin'' In fairness, 30 other teams have failed to accomplish that over the same time period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, Nineforty said: Thumbs up for Beane extension. Thumbs down for McD extension, AND I DO NOT WANT HIM GONE at this time. I'm not sure that anyone wanted him gone right now, but if this season ends up again barely beating another schlep team in the wild-card round followed by a loss in the divisional round, why do I see a significant change in attitude here. LOL Waiting the season would seem to have been wise. Not sure why the hurry with three seasons remaining on both of their contacts, which were sync'd a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Once again here we have proof that NFL owners may be super rich, but most of them are as dumb as a rock. This move was NOT needed, and really is mind boggling. There's absolutely no good reason to do this. Reminds me of the big contract given to Fitzpatrick years ago, mid season, after the Bills got off to a good start (5-1, I think). What happened for the rest of the year though? LOL Josh will be 31 by the end of this deal. I don't feel I need to elaborate on what needs to happen between now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Einstein said: If they’re a top 5 combo then they routinely underperform their own capabilities by flailing in the round of 8. Oh, Einstein. Please don’t make me continue to push back on your agenda. It’s as sound as the OceanGate submersible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I have no idea what you are talking about man. I just said Pegula would not extend both Beane or McDermott if the thought even existed in their mind that they were on the hotseat this year as so many of YOU claim they are. Alright. So you have no idea of your own opinions from day to day. I buy that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 The piece that disgruntled fans here seem to lack awareness of is exactly how hard both Beane & McDermott work to get better at their professions. They are open to new ideas, trying new things, and actively focusing on improving their own deficiencies in the off-season This isn't guys like Jeff Fisher, or Marty Schottenheimer, or Marvin Lewis, or Mike McCarthy who might have had some early success and mostly fiddly-farted their way through the last 2/3 of their careers - fans and pundits KNOWING that these guys weren't going to get any better or ever sniff a SB My point is that both guys, and especially McDermott are putting in the hard work and effort to keep the stability that they've built the last 6 seasons while making the changes and enhancements that are needed to improve and keep giving us shots at a ring. Each and every frigging year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Well like it or not we are stuck with McDermott for the next few seasons. As much as I criticize him, the Bills could do a lot worse. At this point we just have to sit back and hope Josh can deliver us a championship. Peyton won a SuperBowl despite Dungy. Allen will have to do the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: The only part I winced at is "Proud, Christian, determined man." Like his religious beliefs have anything to do with anything. If he were Buddhist, would it have been mentioned? I don’t know, maybe, we’re in the middle of a month where we’re forced to celebrate the sexual identity of certain groups. If McDermott were a member of the LGBTQ community, I guarantee that would be highlighted. Come to think of it, exposes’ of public figures do often reference their spiritual beliefs .. in this country it’s typically Christian/Catholic or Jewish. I wouldn’t have an issue with the Jets extending Saleh and, as part of their description, saying “Proud, Muslim..”. It’s a big part of who he is. We were told about that quite frequently when he was hired. Edited June 23, 2023 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Josh will be 31 by the end of this deal. I don't feel I need to elaborate on what needs to happen between now and then. The Buffalo Jills need to be brought back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, stevestojan said: So turning a franchise of lovable losers into true SB contenders for three years straight and counting is worth more than the opinions of fans on TBD? Blasphemy. Some coaches could have made them Super Bowl Champions instead of Super Bowl contenders. Some/most (never say never/all) good coaches wouldn't have committed that "13-Seconds" debacle and we'd likely have had our Super Bowl win already. Just sayin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Interesting timing for this. They were already signed through 2025. Pegula takes action to change the narrative around the team and reinforce foundation / culture / stability 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BritBill said: Per the Bills. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-announce-contract-extensions-gm-brandon-beane-hc-sean-mcdermott-2027 That is just so they can trade them, right? [ Trying to give a thread to hold on to for those ready to jump off table unless they are fired right now ] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: IF y0u want t0 keep attracting g00d players and g00d c0aches the GM and Head C0ach situati0n needs t0 be stable. Is the 'O' on your keyboard broken or are you just being super cool? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, The Wiz said: This was the first thing I was thinking also. What better way to get people to stop making claims about rifts between the players and coaches than extending them. I have no problem with the extension because they have done well enough to deserve it and it doesn't mean that thinks can't change later on. This season is going to be incredibly interesting, more so than most, on the field as well as here. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, mushypeaches said: The piece that disgruntled fans here seem to lack awareness of is exactly how hard both Beane & McDermott work to get better at their professions. They are open to new ideas, trying new things, and actively focusing on improving their own deficiencies in the off-season This isn't guys like Jeff Fisher, or Marty Schottenheimer, or Marvin Lewis, or Mike McCarthy who might have had some early success and mostly fiddly-farted their way through the last 2/3 of their careers - fans and pundits KNOWING that these guys weren't going to get any better or ever sniff a SB My point is that both guys, and especially McDermott are putting in the hard work and effort to keep the stability that they've built the last 6 seasons while making the changes and enhancements that are needed to improve and keep giving us shots at a ring. Each and every frigging year This is one of the dumbest posts ever. Please know so I dont get banned im not calling the poster dumb. Im just saying this post is stupid. You have no idea how hard any of those coaches worked. You have no idea how hard McDermott works. So if McD is already working harder than those listed why has he had less success than some of them. Marty made multiple AFC Championship games. Fisher made a SuperBowl. Did Andy Reid work les hard in Philadelphia than he does now? Did Belichick work less hard in Cleveland? Ridiculous 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I never really thought Pegula would have much of an appetite for a huge change in the organization, given what he’s going through. Thats not a knock on him. He’s an absolute blessing to this team/fanbase/region. It’s just human nature. He’s going through a lot, and I figured he’d probably double down on a good hire he made as HC and hope that the next step is for “good” to become “great”. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, Einstein said: I have no idea why they extended them when they still had several years left (it serves no purpose) but there is no shortage of NFL coaches fired after getting an extension. Ron Rivera, John Fox, Del Rio, Gus Bradley, Marvin Lewis, Jeff Fisher…. etc all fired within a year or two of receive an extension. I agree with this. For sure but it shows as of right now the seat a lot cooler than some speculated. Doesn't mean they will definitely be here in 2027. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, KingBoots8 said: This might ruffle a few feathers in here lol. Congrats to the both of them. Good to ruffle the feathers of the ostriches. Maybe they will take heads out of holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Here is an article showing that there is no difference between either when it comes to record between 2015 and 2019. Here is my issue with this. Belichick inflates the numbers somewhat. And by design the league should be overall around .500 no matter who the HC is - an offensive guy or defensive guy. Since 2020. Arians, McVay and Reid 2x have won SBs. The goal is winning SBs. McD can absolutely win one. He’s a great HC. You just better be able to keep guys buying in if you go into year 8, 9, 10 without even an AFC title let alone a SB. It’s almost unprecedented a guy coaching that long offensive or defensive guy stays on the job. BB and Pete Carrol are the only 2 defensive head coaches to win the SB since 2009. Worth noting - BB lost and was out coached by Doug Pederson and Tom Coughlin - was known as a disciplinarian guy - but his background was offense. The Seahawks - maybe they win another if someone gets on the head set and tells the OC this better go to Lynch. I’m also considering the Manning led Broncos v Panthers a SB an anomaly. That Broncos team was ridiculous and Manning was the last piece it needed. Worth noting it’s defensive HC looked like they had no plan for Cam as he was getting destroyed. The Super Bowl is the goal now every year and the data says offensive guys or the greatest QB of all time win. This is not a knock on McD it’s just reality. He better get the OC position right. A big year by the offense this season and Dorsey is good as gone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, PBF81 said: This season is going to be incredibly interesting, more so than most, on the field as well as here. LOL On the field, sure. It will be business as usual here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Draconator said: And, here it is Someone needed to be the first lemming. * Lemmings actually do not commit suicide. There was actually a Disney wildlife film which faked this with many lemmings killed. Partly why films state "No animals were injured or killed in making this film." Edited June 23, 2023 by Limeaid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: Alright. So you have no idea of your own opinions from day to day. I buy that. Ok bud..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Draconator said: Are you the love child between Einstein and Airseven? Yes, though illegitimate.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Airseven said: They turned the franchise around and deserve credit for that. But they haven’t been “true SB contenders.” Based on their various degrees of playoff implosion, there’s still a brick wall separating legit SB contention. The question is whether the current direction of the roster, cap situation, and defense-oriented outlook will get them any closer. This season will be a huge piece to the answer to that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Westside Madness said: Is the 'O' on your keyboard broken or are you just being super cool? It's actually broken. He stated that a while ago. @MikePJ76 when's the new laptop getting setup? 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: I don’t know, maybe, we’re in the middle of a month where we’re forced to celebrate the sexual identity of certain groups. You aren't being forced to celebrate anything. It's simply being celebrated by those who support those certain groups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 The Bills better win the SB soon or the McDermott holy wars will be in full force.....starting to get BBMB during the drought vibes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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